Any benefit in upgrading?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by smirk, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. smirk

    smirk Reformed Router Member

    Hey guys, I have a WRT54GS v2.1 router that has been running the stock Tomato v1.28 firmware for a few years now. It's running great! Very infrequently the Internet will freeze and a reboot will fix it -- I suspect it is related to torrenting (but that's just a guess).

    Would there be any benefit in upgrading to a more recent build, perhaps Shibby's or Toastman's? I don't need VPN or Transmission in my router, just speedy and stable performance.

    What do you think? Thanks!
  2. Mercjoe

    Mercjoe Network Guru Member

    I would update to the latest Toastman variant.

    The improvements in the QOS system is very noticeable.

    That would be 1.28.7635 Toastman-IPT-STD.

    I used it on a WRT54g 2.1 and it was rock stable for me.
  3. eibgrad

    eibgrad Network Guru Member

    Key phrase: It's running great!

    In general, I believe in sticking w/ what works unless someone can make a good case otherwise. With routers and third party firmware, unless you need features otherwise not available, or there are known vulnerabilities (and that's definitely something to consider seriously), if it works well and meets your needs, stick w/ it. In fact, newer firmware may consume more resources (cpu, memory, flash) for things that of are of no value to you! For example, kind of sucks to find out your JFFS partition is reduced substantially just because the newer firmware is bloated.

    Still, it’s not as if upgrading to newer firmware is particularly difficult, esp. if you have a simple config, and just want to experiment. Just back it up before you do.

    Now if I was upgrading to a new router, that’s where I would definitely use more recent firmware for maximum compatibility w/ the latest hardware features (e.g., dual band, wireless AC).

  4. fefrie

    fefrie Networkin' Nut Member

    If you are happy with it, I'd say keep it, if you have people torrenting on it, I would recommend setting a cap on the number of connections:

    If you get the proper throughput from your ISP, then I say keep on going with it.

    The problem is that they don't make them like they used to. Even the newer routers aren't all that they're cracked up to be.....
  5. smirk

    smirk Reformed Router Member

    Thanks for the advice! Maybe I'll try upgrading, just for the heck of it. And like you said, the old firmware can be rolled back if needed.

    Would it be fair to say, then, that on a router this old, newer versions of Tomato wouldn't eke out faster performance or more stability? They just add more features?
  6. Mercjoe

    Mercjoe Network Guru Member

    They added a few features. The tools -->system being on that I use from time to time.

    You will NOT suddenly get twice the routing performance just by updating. Again. the QOS system will be the largest change. The original Tomato did not have inbound QOS controls. It was on the outbound only. This is a HUGE stability issue especially in a heavy load situation like you might see with torrents.

    Other additions such as IP Traffic and the zoomable QOS graph to be a great addition to the firmware. I have a heavy traffic household and I was able to 'tune' the QOS to keep things running smoothly.

    I am not sure, but the wireless drivers may be different in the newer versions. I know there was a time when there was a driver split on the firmwares. Hence the ND designation on the version. It has the 'newer' wireless drivers and that can also be a factor in stability.
  7. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    On older routers, older wireless driver works better.

    Wysłane z mojego S-line przy użyciu Tapatalka
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