Tried the above scripts but still no luck. I pinged my ip address, but its not seen over the net so it looks like my router ip is still inside the vpn tunnel. It appears to be trying to connect. if I use realvnc, I can connect to a pc on my network and then access the router that way. Also I set the router to use the external IP address and that basically killed all my connections. I have to wait til I get home now to set the router back to using the WAN address.