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ASUS RT-N16 $74.99 - Newegg

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by TexasFlood, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    ASUS RT-N16 for $74.99 from Newegg. Add to cart for $94.99 then use coupon code EMCKFJA44 (promo code expires at 11:59pm PT on 4/20/2011) for $20 off = $74.99 + Free Shipping. Probably have to Subscribe to their Newsletter as Coupon Codes are valid for their Newsletter Subscribers only. Not a bad deal.
  2. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

  3. Beast

    Beast Network Guru Member

    Is this router a better choice, over the Linksys E3000????? I know it costs a bit more....

  4. bangkokiscool

    bangkokiscool Addicted to LI Member

    Thanks OP, I ordered 2. Been waiting for this to drop to $75, I think I'm going to upgrade some wrt's to the N16!
  5. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    I'm going to say it depends on what you want, they're both good routers. Find below some feature comparisons. There are certainly some other aspects not covered here, but it's a start.
    • RT-N16 is 2.4GHz only, E3000 adds 5GHz. Not everyone needs 5GHz although many think they do without really knowing why. Guess more is usually better, :smile: And it doesn't hurt anything except for usually making the price higher, and great if you are really can take advantage of it.
    • As you can see, the RT-N16 has considerably more memory, although as of right now (although it could change in future) the E3000 offers 60KB of NVRAM space and the RT-N16 32KB
    • Same processor and speed
    • RT-N16 has external removable antenna and E3000 has internal antenna
    • RT-N16 has two USB connectors, E3000 has one

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  6. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    Cool. It's a solid router, nice fast processor, good 2.4GHz range, external antenna should you ever want to play with some alternate antenna, plenty of memory so don't have to worry about crashes from running low on RAM. First N router to run Tomato, or maybe tied with it's similar ancestor the WL-500W. It's a classic.
  7. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    The benefits of the dual channel simultaneous of the E3000 is that I can configure them to talk to eachother on the 5ghz channels. Keeps traffic off the client channel.... Adds flexibility that the Asus doesn't have.
  8. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    jsmiddleton4, yours is a good example of a valid use and I didn't mean to imply there weren't any.

    I've just seen more than a few folks buy wireless routers based on hype. 5GHz support is one of those hyped features. A relative of mine got a Linksys simultaneous dual band router quite a while back. The marketing hype made 5GHz sound better than 2.4GHz in every way including range and wall penetration. Excited with a new toy, I set it up for them only to find that the 5GHz was largely useless due to very poor signal coverage in the home. The 2.4GHz coverage was much better and could be used throughout the house. And this is not the only such example. YMMV as a lot depends on the size and construction of the area you're using it in.

    Based on that, I was fairly comfortable that, for me, at the time, the single band RT-N16 was a good choice and I wasn't missing anything. Of course I'm cheap and wasn't buying a second router to link with. Well I planned to, and did, link with the RT-N16 with several of my existing 802.11g routers. I'm not using these old routers as APs but to provide wired ports in remote parts of the house as my house isn't wired for Ethernet - to add wireless capability to older wired devices like PCs, printers, game consoles. Of course, they run at 802.11g speed, not N speed. But I'm OK with that and I can upgrade specific devices as needed if I see unacceptable bottlenecks. This allowed me to upgrade my clients on the cheap. At the time 5GHz client hardware wasn't cheap so that was part of my decision. But by now prices on everything have fallen so cost isn't such a big deal.

    If you pay only a little more for a 5GHz radio you don't use what's the harm I guess? The E3000 is a nice router and don't think you'll go wrong buying it. Since prices have fallen I've picked up a refurb E3000 myself although I don't have a use for the 5GHz. So there you go, I'm one of those people who bought a router with a 5GHz radio that he can't use, :biggrin: , yet anyway. But it was cheap enough so what the hay. And I have some relatives coming to visit soon who I believe have 5GHz capable laptops so can let them connect at 5GHz and see how it works out.

    Either of these routers is a better choice than much of what's out there for similar money. For example, going down to the local Walmart and picking up something like a Linksys WRT160N. There are multiple versions of this router and honestly the Broadcom versions of it aren't that different in specs than the earlier WRTSL54GS or WRT54Gv4, and one of the versions is Atheros based so little chance of ever running Tomato on it. While the Broadcom versions can run some flavors of Tomato, and it's an OK router, I'm just saying that now you can do better for similar money. Anyway, I'm rambling so I'll stop now, :smile:.
  9. xtacydima

    xtacydima LI Guru Member

    Purchasing the ASUS was probably my greatest home network purchase in terms of bang for buck. I never truly felt like I got the upgrades I wanted after with WRT54G series with the wrt150 and wrt350 but now I feel like I finally found my final and long lasting solution. I honestly don't see myself upgrading for years now.

    I got two relatives to purchase the ASUS RT-N16, and two friends whom own small/medium business' in the local area to get it too. (Thats almost $500 ASUS should thank me for)

    Everyone is extremely happy with it, all running Tomato, and nobody has crashes or reboots.

    On my personal one, I got three 17dbi antennae (from ebay), and I modded the inside to have a small side blowing fan (from a laptop) to cool down the heatsink (stole power from the serial pins although only 3.3v was hard to find a fan). Everyone else has that I got this for stock antennae and no mods. Still, everyone is very happy with it.

    I can't compare it to the E3000 but I did some testing against the Bountiful1000 and the ASUS was comparative in range (of course the Bountiful exceeded by a bit), but you can't even begin to compare in terms of price.

    Thanks for finding this deal, I am thinking to pickup another just to have as a spare or to have for the place in the summer house.
  10. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    "didn't mean to imply there weren't any."

    Didn't think you did.
  11. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    OK, just trying to be clear.

    I actually had you in mind when I was composing the original post and was trying to express both my disappointment with 5GHz not living up to the hype IMHO while not dismissing the positive aspects.

    That's a great idea you had about how to use the 5GHz radio for router communication. Isolating traffic sort of like the recent thread that mentioned improved wireless performance after segregating wireless to it's own VLAN which was suggested possibly due to avoiding the broadcast traffic on the main LAN.

    Anyway, that isn't something I can do myself just yet, all my routers talk to each other "in-band", but definitely something to keep in mind for the future. Thanks.
  12. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    And there are lots of folks with newer home theater setups in exactly the same situation I am. No hard wired LAN access to wherever the home theater is setup. You see the discussion lots on places like AVS Forum but from the home theater angle. Some have tried the power line adapters. Works for some, not for others. The flexibility and shaping of traffic that can happen in WDS mode for a home theater type setup is tremendous AND simple. I like simple.

    I see no performance hit either in WDS mode. Saw some difference in WDS vs. WET mode with the WRT54G/WRT54G-TM's but even that was barely noticeable. With these E3000's, I see no difference in performance due to the extra transmission needed.

    I'd say context is the final determination. If you will or even if you may need a multiple router setup, seems to me the dual channel simultaneous routers are the way to go. If you will only ever use one router, the Asus 16 is at the moment a clear value winner.
  13. Beast

    Beast Network Guru Member

    Thanks to everyone for sharing there knowledge about these routers. Looks like my next purchase will be a Asus 16. I like the amount of ram it has. Still using my WRTSL54GS for now, my bottle neck is my speedy DSL. 1.5 MB. No that not a typo thats One Point Five MB.


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