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B/W Limiter missing from tomato-ND-1.28.7628.1-Toastman-Std

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by t4evassa, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. t4evassa

    t4evassa Network Guru Registered

    I have a Linksys WRT54GS v1.0 router. I upgraded from official tomato 1.28 to toastman's ND-1.28.7628.1-Toastman-Std and it flashed successfully but I noticed the B/W limiter is missing from the QOS section. I downgraded to 1.28.7625 and the B/W limiter appears in that version. I also tried Shibby's latest firmware and it is there also. Is this a bug with 1.28.7628.1?
  2. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Not a bug - that was a build that was done to bugfix a reboot loop problem - on Sept 17 2011

    Once the bug was traced, the BW Limiter and all updates at that time were added back into the earlier build as build 7626.1 to verify all was OK, on Sept 23 2011

    Build 7629 incorporated most current features from the main Toastman-RT branch and was followed by 7629.1 and 7629.2 updates.

    7629.2 is therefore the most up to date posted build. I have a new build ready for test also, which will be 7630 when posted. Currently, that is in the "Custom Test Builds" section on 4shared if you wish to try it.

    These are all marked BETA builds as I am unable to test here.
  3. EpsilonX

    EpsilonX LI Guru Member

    I decided to post here, since the big and new thread kinda focused on the RT series... ;)
    Been using 7628.1-Mini for a while...
    Lately I noticed that the router rebooted itself after around 24-48 hours of uptime... :confused:
    Can't say if its been like this since the start, I just happened to saw the router rebooting a few days ago...
    No overclock, at the moment (10 or so hours ago) I'm disabling "IP Traffic Monitor" to monitor the progress...
    Only 1 PC, 1 PS3 and 1 phone connected and around 45-50% free memory...
    Any report of this kind of reboot..?
  4. t4evassa

    t4evassa Network Guru Registered

    Thanks for the explanation. I'll use 7626.1 then. I'd help you test out the beta but I don't know how to read the graphs and monitors plus I'm kinda scared of using a beta version since I'm using this router for the whole house and I need it to be stable!
  5. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    bugmenot4eva - Don't worry too much about the "BETA" labels. In fact there's no such thing as a stable firmware build, if a build was known to be unstable it would not be there in the first place. It really means nothing at all. I'm using these builds for several apartment blocks each with upwards of 100 users :) In this particular instance this "Custom Test" version has not yet been tested by anyone, so be careful with it.

    EpsilonX - I don't use these K2.4 builds for the earlier routers any more (except for AP's) so I cannot say this with any certainty, but I can't see why it should be any less stable than it used to. You may have a local client with a screwy wireless trying to log on and causing the reboot (and it may not be yours, could be a passing guy in the street even, and you may not know anything about it). Or one of your clients may be hitting the router with thousands of connections in a short time period (known as a "connection storm"). Or there may be a rogue Intel wireless card in use somewhere. It is very hard to pinpoint.
  6. EpsilonX

    EpsilonX LI Guru Member

    Wireless local client in last 3 days was only my phone, will try to disable and see if there are any difference...
    As for the one in bold, never realised that an "unauthorized client" can do that... :eek:

    No torrents, and actually ALL 3 client were mostly idle with no download...
    That's what makes it weirder... :rolleyes:

    Roque and in use means the "Intel card" is not connected to my router and yet cause problems like in case number 1..?

    Yeah I realized this kinda thing got loads of variables... :D
    Just curious if you ever heard bout something like it...
    And as usual, crazy fast replies... :D
  7. t4evassa

    t4evassa Network Guru Registered

    ok in that case I'll use 7629.2. I had some other questions. If I assign my computer highest priority and no limit in b/w limiter does that override the qos settings? Should I disable uPnP and just leave NAT-PMP on to be more secure or turn them both off and just use port forwarding?
  8. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    EpsilonX, re the connection storms - they happen so fast the router runs out of resources so quickly it has no time to dump any logs or anything before it dies. It's very common. Usually caused by a virus infected PC on your own LAN. You'll find more on this site if you search for "connection storm".
  9. EpsilonX

    EpsilonX LI Guru Member

    Almost 4 days and no reboots since disabling "IP Traffic Monitor"...
    Maybe it's coincidence, but for now I'm happy with it... ;)
    Will try the the 7630 BETA after couple more days...
    As for now, I'm still scratching my head over "Interference Mitigation"...

    In my place, "None" works fine with all device...
    I setup a WRT54GL in my friend's place, and I need to change it to "WLAN Manual"...
    Or else the wireless tends to disconnect all device repeatedly (1 wired, 1 wireless PC, 1 Notebook, 1 Phone)...
    Not even "WLAN Auto" which is the recommended can solve it, I must use "WLAN Manual" for her place...
    No microwave, wireless phone, and only 1 other AP in different channel... :confused:
    The different requirements for different devices sure is a crazy thing...
    I dunno how you can manage hundreds of clients and stay sane...
  10. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Who said I'm sane? :D
  11. teaman

    teaman LI Guru Member

    Hi there, EpsilonX!

    This may be a coincidence, or not... :) I've been running Tomato-SDHC-VLAN (K24) on a WRT54GL with the SD/MMC mod (4GB SDHC card): it runs Samba, handles all DNS/DHCP for my LAN (around 10 devices on the network), plus 2 wireless interfaces with WPA2 (primary + guest virtual AP). Also, IP Traffic (+cstats) has been active for all interfaces ('auto-discovery' mode enabled). If I remember correctly, RAM usage on this router was hovering around 70~80% back then, (20~30% RAM free, 16MB total) and sometimes, rebooting without any kind of warning and/or reasonable/plausible explanations.

    On the other hand... these kind of things/actions tend to seem more clear/meaningful when we finally get things fixed/working again, right? ;)

    Since I'm constantly fiddling with settings - mostly when I want to do some experimenting and/or need to do some kind of testing related to development - it's usually very hard to pinpoint what exactly may be causing problems and/or something seems to be broken (even it such thing has been broken for while and we just noticed - but that's life!).

    In my particylar case, the last time I had to try something different in order to attempt fixing/mitigating issues that ended up leading to plain-and-simple/random reboots, the whole thing started to behave better after I got miniupnpd disabled that router (free RAM has been around 40% since that change). So... as you said: it might be just a coincidence, for sure... But the actual root cause might be/have been... something else (i.e. memory usage/allocation/fragmentation, etc...)

    Best of luck!

  12. EpsilonX

    EpsilonX LI Guru Member

    Posted a relatively harmless and trivial problem, and 2 of the devs actually replied with an explanation... ;)
    Great stuff...

    I personally "like" having a problem or two once in a while...
    Usually it leads to new info and links to other related stuff and learning material that might help in the future...
    Not to mention add to one's skill *writing down MiniUPnPd just in case*...
    As long as it didn't lead to bricks... :D

    Yeah, pinpointing network related problems can get frustrating real fast...
    Especially when users can only complains without any additional info that can help you...
    My country's native language is not English, so people tend to be lazy to search Google for possible solution... :rolleyes:

    Will test out new firmware after Christmas...
    Thank you and Merry Christmas to all...
  13. Pjotr12345

    Pjotr12345 Networkin' Nut Member

    My router is a Linksys WRT54GL version 1.1. I have tried many Tomato USB builds, but in none of them the B/W Limiter option for QoS shows....

    Please help me with a download link to the right build. Your help will be greatly appreciated.
  14. EpsilonX

    EpsilonX LI Guru Member

    @Teaman & Toastman
    6 days and no reboot with disabled "IP Traffic Monitor"...
    Yesterday I flashed 1.28.7630, set the router the same way...
    And after ~26 hours it rebooted again, though it happened while it's idle and I'm asleep...
    Will test it for another 1-2 day, and then try it with disabled "IP Traffic Monitor"...
  15. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  16. Hackerivs

    Hackerivs Networkin' Nut Member

    toastman, do you know when the newest k2.4 ND builds will be out of beta period?
  17. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    I'd say it seems to be pretty much OK from the feedback I've had, so go ahead and try it!
  18. Hackerivs

    Hackerivs Networkin' Nut Member

    i installed it and it seems to work very good, without issues.

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