Discussion in 'DD-WRT Firmware' started by jagboy, May 3, 2005.
dd-wrt is soon moving to openwrt source tree. howmany would like to see this happen?
To me it depends on if that makes it better or not. If that makes it better, then I'm all for it. But to do it just because of some purist desire to rid the firmware of Sveasoft code no matter whether it's better or not seems to be a mistake since Sveasoft it open-source whether he wants to be or not.
That said, it does seem like moving toward OpenWRT will improve DD-WRT. I just can't be sure until that actually happens.
i think of this will be a good idea. i am pretty sire that dd-wrt will stay the same when it comes to features. but when ever coders or programers come to together to achive a common goal and have a common enemy only good things can result. and plus brainslyer has been alone in making the firmware. now at least this can release some of presure. it would be cool if we could all bind together like hpyerwrt (avenger 2.0) wifibox tinypeap e-wrt freifunk to make one firmware. this would be the best. but back to realitity......yeah i am sure this will be cool for dd-wrt to move to openwrt source.
brainslyer keep up the work
I prefer to leave it up to the developers. If they are happy to work together great things will come of it. If they are not really happy about it and do work together the results will not be great, no matter what we think...
Hm, Openwrt is quite stable, modular, has many features and is extensible due to the ipk extensions. But unfortunately regarding usability Openwrt is a pain in the a**. Basically Openwrt is for people, who were born with a tatoo of the tux penguin on their forehead.
So I would only vote for DD-WRT migrating to the Openwrt codebase, if it's going to combine the features, modularity and stability of Openwrt with the usability and the webinterface of Alchemy.
same here. this would help alot of us out that would like to use openwrt but dont know the commands for the command line.
I totaly agree.
same for me.
Although i'm not afraid of using the cli, its far far easier to work with a web interface.
Why not !
But if you switch to open-WRT, is there the same option ?
wifi power boodt ?
reboot scheduled ?
reset button ?
many row for forwarding ?
and if the wifi works correctly ? transfert rate not bad ?
in poenwrtr there is no web gui. everything is command line
that all i feared !!!
So, I don't want DD-WRT move to openWRT if there is no web gui...
I'm not a powerful user that can deal with a only command line system...
Please, keep a gui !!!
i am sure that dd-wrt will keep the web gui. or elese it will not be used by so many people.
what i think is that brainslyer might release a advanced firmware that is no web gui and have a regular version with everything and web gui. and then a basic version with the web gui too. but that is what i think
I hope you're right ^^
There is an additional web GUI for openWRT; or you use Firmware Freifunk (based on openWRT but with already integrated GUI)
Hello, thanks for the link, I found with google this :
This is the gui demonstration
But, I don't think It could be for me, because there are so less option to configure the router...
Ports Forwarding disappeared
and many option I need, like dhcpd...
Maybe it is a simple gui interface and all functions I need could be accessed by comand line, but for me , I want it to be in the gui ^^
Thanks for the link
I think you kiddies are missing the point here..
As I remember reading, Brainslayer was quoted as saying he was moving the BUILD environment to the openWRT format. This would encompass the Linux 2.4.30 Kernal and hardware drivers. Tools such as a web GUI, of any kind, as well as any other functions or tools should be uneffected.
The openWRT build environment is not an all ro nothing environment. It allows you a framework to build what you want, built on the openWRT supported Linux kernel - REMEMBER, the WRT54G is a Linux based device, NOT a WEB GUYI based device.
The web GUI as we know it now of may know it in the future is simply a Linux application.
will moving from alchemy source to openwrt source make the firmware faster or more stable?
You have to remember, the Linux kernel has NOTHING to do with Alchemy or Hyperwrt or Linksys or DDWRT.
These development projects have added tools and interfaces (GUI's) to configure the router in useful ways. These tools are simply applications that run in the Linux envrionment. The low level drivers, CPU management, memory management, file system management are all functions of the Linux Kernel.
Most applications run fine when moved from one build to another unless there are major library changes. Usually, there are compatibility libraries to mitigate this issue.
The 2.4.30 Kernel in general is better than the 2.4.2 based Kernel which all of the other firmwares use. I would fully expect to see improvement in the system level functions using this code.
The WRT54G is a wonderful device BECAUSE it runs Linux, NOT because one developer has built a web page to perform a function.
Dont worry - be happy - drink the kool-aid
In case youre interested in the kid of things the Linux kernel does, here are the release notes for the 2.4.30 Kernel
More Linux info:
Beafore the last post, I did'nt knew the differnce of thos environnment.
Thaks to dellsweig
With this kind of explaination I do agree with the idea that DD-WRT go with openWRT sources.
OK, Now I understand better what mean DDWRT move to OpenWRT source tree...
So we have better quality an better stability in moving to openWRT,
and the gui is only a package we can install/or it should be transfered ^^
Ok, thanks ^^
So, Move to OpenWRT ^^
Now I can vote
By the way, I don't understand this terms : "I think you kiddies are missing the point here"
Should you explain it to me, poor frenchy I am...
I agree, moving to a real open project, like openwrt will enhance it , and the community will be even bigger, there is already many good works made on this project.
let's move to the top.
and this will instantly stop the problem regarding the main firmware we are using atm.
btw i've heard about a local root security bug on kernel 2.4-series, a local root exploit, is this patched ? in openwrt 2.4.30 kernel project.
dd-wrt will stay as independend project. but the sourcebase will be shared with openwrt. dd-wrt will still have some unique features, otherwise it wouldnt be dd-wrt anymore
What I have heard from openwrt users is that it is really stable but it is a pain to configure.
So I vote Yes if we keep the user-friendly web interface.
Is OpenWRT supporting SpeedBooster (I have all my equipements in GS so I would like to take advantage of SpeedBooster) or will DD-Wrt based on OpenWrt source code will support it ?
i thnk they do but i have only used openwrt once
I think it will be good to have a web interface for openwrt. It misses.
Both developpment can be a very great thing to have a "very" powerfull wireless system.
The ability to use ipk file is a must!
IÂ´m beginning to love the concept of openWRT. There is also a basic GUI:
The most disadvantage at the moment is, that the individual packages donÂ´t come with their own interface. Except e.g.: SIPatH. It has itÂ´s own interface reachable under: http://192.168.1.1/mf.html
I think itÂ´s impossible to a have only one single interface cause everybody has installed different packages; but if every package would come with itÂ´s own GUI reachable by a unique URL like http://192.168.1.1/package1.html it wouldnÂ´t be a problem.
So yes: Switch to openWRT codebase.
That's about to change. Probably already in the next few days, we'll add a new web interface to our CVS and make it the official OpenWrt web interface (AFAIK interface-wrt is unmaintained and I heard that the code is a mess...).
The new web interface is modular and we'll add modules for that to the individual packages, so it will be a lot easier to use for users that aren't that comfortable with the command line.
You are right; that interface was not updated since October 2004 or so.
But a new interface sounds great! For linux newies like myself this would be helpfull (although the last days and nights I got a little bit familiar with command line).
Have any links for it?
No, it's not available for download yet. As soon as it's merged, I will include it in my OpenWrt prerelease builds.