DD-WRT thoughts *warning long post*

Discussion in 'DD-WRT Firmware' started by lotacus, May 20, 2005.

  1. lotacus

    lotacus Guest

    I have upgraded to DD-WRT from Hyperwrt because I was curious about this firmware. There are ALOT of features, even some that I know I will not use so to me, completely useless. This brings me to to wonder if it would be best that the dd-wrt firmware is released in a hierarchy manner. Such as a basic, a pro and a corp, maybe even a poweruser version of firmware. What should be concidered, is do these extra options and features appeal to a broad range of people? or just those in the forum? To have a successful firmware, I think a concideration should be made to broaden your scope to include the average user.

    Like i've mentioned before, there are a lot of features that I just won't use, some features that I may use on an occasional basis and some that I will most definatly use, and need for basic security. If this applies to me, then it should be assumed, that it applies to more people.

    To use as an example, I stumbled upon a thread where a small group of people developed the use for a flash card for their wrt box, and after that posting maybe 4 people wanted that option to be available in the dd-wrt firmeware, there wasn't any justification for that request, except out of curiousity because it was something "different" and new, and to them, and admittingly to myself as well, a "cool" thing, however it's one of those things I know I would never have any use for, and disagree that it should be implimented in dd-wrt.

    When I look for firmware, and i'm sure most others do to, I look for the impact on performance and overhead. When these rare or unesessary options are included, how much of an impact is that going to have not only on the performance of the router, but also the impact on memory that the wrt would otherwise need or could use, stability and security.

    Already flashing to the DD-WRT I have found a noticeable impact on performance compared to the official linksys firmware and compared to hyperwrt.

    Now, this isn't used to start a flame war, and I would assume that most of the people here are a bit more mature then that, and just take this post into concideration. I am mearly expressing my thoughts to hopely improve upon something. So a response of "well re-flash with hyperwrt then" is not a viable response at all, and really does nothing for this forum, for my suggestion, or to improve on DD-WRT. As it stands, i see that DD-WRT is second in popularity, if you dont include unmodified linksys firmware.

    Now, I have to ask myself a question. Why did I move from Hyperwrt to DD-WRT?

    Answer: Curiousity. I was curious to see what creative and talented idea's came from people who developed their own firmware based on the linksys firmware. What I found was to be truly amazing. Some people included only the hidden pages found in the firmware, others added a few functionality, and yet others seem to bloat the wrt with everything they have, needed or not.

    Another Reason is the fact that it seems as if Hyperwrt is now dead. it's been in 2.1B1 for a very long time, and it's forum discussions have dropped conciderably.

    So now that I have found DD-WRT, with an active forum, with a developer that discusses issues and concerns with the people and a firmware with lots of features (as I am now just playign with them to see what is useful for me in my circumstances). I believe, that at least for now, it's a firmware that I will be sticking to.

    Now, a few questions.

    I don't believe i've noticed what firmware version this is based off of. I would only hope that it's the very latest linksys firmware (not beta frmware) which is currently 3.37.6. What firmware is DD-WRT (Pre4/5) based off?

    Are there any user guides to the options in which were added to this firmware? The help files in pre4 are missing, with only traces of the origional help files. I can only assume that this is the case since the very first production of DD-WRT, does not one thing to start including these help files?

    That all being said, i would just like to commend those who have helped with the development of this firmware, it's coming along good, and I cannot wait to see the final outcome.
  2. Lazybones

    Lazybones Network Guru Member

    1. DD-WRTs performance problems are most likely the result of two things
    - It has more advanced QOS
    - It is based off of old drivers and will be updated in the next version

    2. DD-WRT is moving to an OpenWRT structure for code so it should become more modular, starting with a base set of features then you can load other features on top.

    3. Most people use Svsoft firmware or DD-Wrt because it has Static DHCP and Better QOS.
  3. wesmoc

    wesmoc Network Guru Member


    My understanding was that dd-wrt was based off of Sveasoft's Alchemy 1.0 release (actually, the last pre-release of Alchemy before it went gold).

    Sveasoft added a boatload of features, and dd-wrt took the base code, cleaned it up a fair amount, and added more features while refining others.

    The modular method is coming (hooray).

    IMHO, Linksys's firmware is ok, but lacking heavily across the board. What the hackers..ahem.. developers have done to increase the feature set and basically make the router what it is today.. well, it just rocks. Definite kudos to all!

    I personally would have sold this router on ebay and kept hunting for something that would suit my needs if I hadn't had the features that were added by these guys. :)
  4. u3gyxap

    u3gyxap Network Guru Member

    As you probably know, DD-WRT now comes in 2 different flavors. The basic version does not incluse some of the options that the regular home user would never need. Maybe that is what you need.
    Nothing wrong with having some more features. As long as they work as they should. Probably is a good idea to keep them into the full version of the firmware, while keeping the basic clean.
  5. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    ok fine i will admint that dd-wrt if filled with feautres but u know what i dont see it as a bad thing. i see it as a great thing. what would brianslyer do if he did get $20 fomr every person that uses his firmware.
  6. u3gyxap

    u3gyxap Network Guru Member

    Don't give him bad ideas :)

    P.S. I donated him, he deserves it.
  7. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i would donate but i dont have a creditcard or debet card :(
  8. u3gyxap

    u3gyxap Network Guru Member

    You don't need one. Bank account is just enough.
  9. gotamd

    gotamd Network Guru Member

    I think Jagboy is a minor so he probably doesn't have a checking account.
  10. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    yeah i am 15 so bank account is out of the question. this stinks no way of donating
  11. BrainSlayer

    BrainSlayer Network Guru Member

    i surelly would not stop with development. i would buy more testsystems and would quit my job because i'm rich. this all would help DD-WRT. also currently all donations are used to develop DD-WRT (okay an buy some beer and pizza). this money isnt for my private golden castle, its for DD-WRT and to finance some side costs
  12. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    are u joking about being rich

    and i know you would not stop working on dd-wrt. i was just comparing the fact that you firmware is free and a unnamed company's firmware is not free and you get more done than that unnamed company will ever get done.
  13. BrainSlayer

    BrainSlayer Network Guru Member

    and i'm alone. the good thing on the opensource scene is the friendships between some coders. so i get tips and tricks from other open source developers which sveasoft wont get
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