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Does Tomato have any issues when connecting to a WAP54G?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by ImmortalDragon, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. ImmortalDragon

    ImmortalDragon LI Guru Member

    I have a WRT54GL which I use Tomato with, I have a WAP54G I use as a wireless repeater. I've been having trouble trying to get the two to connect and see each other and I was wondering if its possible the Tomato firmware could be causing this.
    Thanks
     
  2. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    I haven't tried that particular scenario, although it seems unlikely that it would be an issue. At the moment I don't have a functional WAP54G to test it with. For what it's worth, you could probably load Tomato onto the WAP.
     
  3. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Tomato will not run on the WAP54G. :rolleyes:
     
  4. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    You sure? DD-WRT will run just fine on it.
     
  5. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Tomato is not DD-WRT! If his router becomes unusable are you going to refund him?
     
  6. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    Calm yourself down. It was a legitimate question - has this come up before? I can't find it discussed.
     
  7. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    UInless your the firmware's developer you shouldn't mislead people. There wasn't any question asked about putting Tomato on a WAP54G -- I really don't know why you suggested this!
     
  8. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    Calm your self down, because you're making an ass of yourself. I said 'probably could' as in 'it's worth checking into' I didn't tell him to go flash it today, genius. I suggested it as an avenue worthy of consideration.

    You don't seem to know it's not an option, so why are you behaving this way? If you have something helpful to contribute, good on you. If not, go find somewhere else to be a jackass.
     
  9. njeske

    njeske Network Guru Member

    Why would you even suggest this? Tomato will NOT run on a WAP54G. The question was about Tomato correctly interacting with a WAP54G, not loading Tomato on it. Don't give out suggestions to people unless you know what you're talking about.

    In response to the question... I don't see any reasy why it wouldn't work, but I don't have a WAP54G to test with. I would assume you've verified that your SSID and security are setup the same on both devices. What type of security are you using?
     
  10. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    I gave out a suggestion of something I considered worth checking into. It was an aside comment, hence the 'for what it's worth'. Obviously it wasn't the specific answer to his question.

    You seem so sure that it won't work (and, perhaps it doesn't). But it doesn't appear to have been discussed, so why are you so sure. Or do you really not know? Perhaps you're also giving out suggestions when you don't know what you're talking about.

    Good grief people, get over yourselves. I've done it and was very satisfied with it using other aftermarket firmware and threw it out as a possibility. If somebody actually knows it can't be done, so be it. But if you HAVE NO CLUE WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT, WHY THE $%$#$ are you attacking me over the idea?
     
  11. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Fastpakr,

    There's only one ass here! YOU!! And since you have NO clue about what you're talking about keep your stupid ideas to yourself -- or at least try it out (with Tomato) before you make any more idiotic suggestions!
     
  12. njeske

    njeske Network Guru Member

    you're the one who said it would "probably" work. that's a far cry from a simple suggestion. that's almost a full on endorsement. and yes, i do know it won't work. because jon has yet to create a firmware that will support the WAP54G. perhaps you should try to check your facts before you mislead more people coming here looking for real help and answers.
     
  13. ImmortalDragon

    ImmortalDragon LI Guru Member

    I've tried everything, once I disconnect the WAP from the WRT, I keep getting timed out errors with and without the passkey. I checked the reduce packet size option, enabled mac filtering (one guide told me to do so, didn't work with it on or off), I've tried entering the MAC address of the WAN, LAN, and wireless and none worked. I was able to connect them a few months ago, I had HyperWRT Thibor at that time.
     
  14. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    Now that everyone has displayed their true colors, I'll follow up to my original comment. I located a spare WAP54G V2 that was already flashed with DD-WRT v23SP2 Micro. From the web page, I reset to defaults and then attempted to flash with Tomato. It began the upgrade, then restarted the WAP after just a few seconds. It came back to DD-WRT with no apparent issues. Since this WAP was gathering dust in a closet I tried a 'stupid idea' and TFTP'd the code.bin file over. This proceeded successfully, and I was able to ping the device at 192.168.1.1 afterwards with no problem. However, I was not able to telnet or http into the unit at all. I was able to reflash the DDWRT firmware with TFTP, however and the unit appears to be back to normal, no worse for the wear.

    For all the naysayers, rest peacefully knowing that Tomato cannot currently function on a WAP54G. Nor did I ever say it could, just that it was worth looking into. Now we all know.
     
  15. dvaskelis

    dvaskelis Network Guru Member

    "We" all knew this beforehand, from the documentation, FAQ, and understanding of what Tomato is and is not.

    And "we" just as comfortably "know" that it won't function in anything else that it lacks the code to control, such other other Linksys or Buffalo products, Netgear products, TiVos, Xboxes, PSPs, BlackBerries, iPhones, or my toaster for that matter.

    But if it makes you feel better to try loading it on any or all those, please feel free to report your results.

    ;)
     
  16. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    I'm glad you enjoy behaving as if you were of superior intelligence. The WAP54G runs the same basic Broadcom chipset as the WRT54G, so why was it not worth suggesting? I never said it DID work, rather that it was worth trying. I also repeatedly asked if there had been discussion of this in the past, and instead of getting a reasonably thought out response, I get idiotic responses from jackasses. For months now I've suggested that this was a great place to get information from and relied on it as a good source of intelligent information. The three of you have the mentality of kindergarten children mixed with the arrogance of kings.
     
  17. njeske

    njeske Network Guru Member

    that statement, is not along the sames lines of suggesting he explore the possibility. like i said previously, that is almost a full blown endorsement that it will work.

    the rest of us are going by what the firmware creator himself has noted about the firmware, and what other independent users have posted on this forum and the FAQ. we know, for a fact, that tomato will not work on any device other than those listed as being supported. to suggest to a user otherwise, is irresponsible on your part.

    you are the arrogant one.
     
  18. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    OK BUTTFUGKER, we got your point the first 300 times already.
     
  19. njeske

    njeske Network Guru Member

    i've only posted in the thread 3 times (now 4). but i'm glad i've made my point.
     
  20. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    I think that if you will recompile the firmware with wap54 kernel base MAYBE it will work.
    but it depends upon the version of the product,
    some of them have 4mb flash and some have 8MB like the WRT54GL.
     
  21. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    @Immortal Dragon
    I think if you search the linksysinfo forums you find many people have issues using a wap54g as a wireless repeater and attempting to connect with any WRT54G. If it worked for you when you had HyperWRT loaded on your WRT54G then I'd go back and use that. I'm not sure, but perhaps it works in this case due to past collaboration code sharing between Avenger's HyperWAP and HyperWRT projects.

    Other than that, the only thing I can suggest is do the forum search and see if anything can be "gleaned" from any success stories where they did get it to connect as a wireless repeater.
     
  22. fastpakr

    fastpakr Network Guru Member

    As I mentioned previously, DD-WRT v23 SP2 Micro can be loaded onto the WAP's and works great. Bridges just fine with Buffalo, Linksys, etc... devices.
     
  23. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    @ the OP ; Like fastpakr said in his first post, there should be no protocol incompatability with the WAP stock firmware since Tomato is still Linksys code under the hood. WAPs have no problem repeating WRT54G and WRT54GS radios. I have done it in several installs. It would probably be a good idea to investigate your configurations in more detail to be sure you have all of the settings correct. The DD-WRT suggestion sounds good also. I have numerous DD-WRT radios in WDS links with Tomato radios. They are perfectly compatible with each other. The Wireless MAC is what you use to repeat. Double and triple check the MAC address, they are very easy to fudge when manually entering. Also, be sure to do an NVRam clear of the Tomato radio at least once. About 30% of the unexplainable problems here in the forum are solved by doing an NVRam clear. Jon should just build an automatic NVRam clear cycle right into the flashing process.
     
  24. Touchy

    Touchy Network Guru Member

    Hi,
    i have a problem running a WAP54G in wireless-repeater mode, too.
    After upgrading from HyperWRT 2.1ß to tomato 1.10 my WAP54G is not working in repeater-mode anymore. The WAP is shown in the devicelist, but does not receive any wireless-packets from my WRT54G (v.4). Another WAP54G in wireless-bridge mode is working fine with tomato.
    Any more hints how to solve this problem? I would like to stay with tomato.

    TIA,
    Touchy
     
  25. Touchy

    Touchy Network Guru Member

    Anyone?
     
  26. crai

    crai LI Guru Member

    You test with Automatic/Lazy WDS mode?
     

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