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E3000 and Victek's 1.28.9007 issue with 5GHZ

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by zapoqx, Dec 10, 2011.

  1. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    Alright, so I am unsure as to what is going on and since my 5ghz signal experience is little so forgive me if it was something so obvious that I missed.
    We just got a brand new Linksys E3000. Now, since I've read around often enough that with the regular firmware, something seems to fail, I figured it was safer to just start off using the TomatoRAF that I liked since the Buffalo router. I compared the instructions from the original Tomato to see if there was anything different needed to be done.
    So, I installed.
    Thorough erased the NVRAM.
    Went on to tinkering the settings.

    I thought everything was running great! Then I did a set up so that all the Wireless N devices can be used on the 5GHZ signal and B/G can be used on the 2.4GHZ signal. For some reason though, the 5GHZ SSID does not show up on the 4 Wireless N devices in the house at all. I'm hoping its not a faulty hardware. Everything else works correctly though with just that 5GHZ not showing up.

    As a side test, I am able to get the N Devices to connect on the 2.4GHZ when on N only mode. I also searched, but anything related to 5GHZ issues that I found here seems to be related on the E4200 and I know I downloaded the E3000 firmware (MIPSR2).

    Any assistance greatly appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. kevin_n

    kevin_n Networkin' Nut Member

    I have an e3000 flashed with Tomato Firmware v1.28.7492 MIPSR2-Toastman-RT K26 USB Ext.

    It's a main router with dual-band AP and provides the following services:

    1. QoS for Ooma Tele (Free Home Phone Service to replace land line phone services from AT&T. Well, it's not entirely free - I still get charged US 3.47 a month for FCC tax and all)
    2. A shared network laser printer
    3. AP: 2.4 ghz, channel width 20 mhz
    • 1 IPod Touch connected as G speed
    • 1 Thinkpad T43 laptop connected as G speed
    • Linksys e2000 running Tomato Firmware v1.28.7492 MIPSR2-Toastman-RT K26 Std (configured as Wireless Ethernet Bridge) connected as N speed. I have a wired LAN connected to e2000.
    4. AP: 5 ghz, channel width 20 mhz
    • 1 HP Elitebook laptop connected as N speed and A speed (just for testing)
    My e3000 has been online for two weeks and no issues so far. I'm very happy with e3000 & tomato firmware compared to my old setup Dlink DIR-655 (sometime it just hung and required power-cycle to restore services)

    Hope it helps
     
  3. occamsrazor

    occamsrazor Network Guru Member

  4. kevin_n

    kevin_n Networkin' Nut Member

    FYI. Following are steps I took to flash and setup tomato firmware from stock firmware on a brand new e3000 when it arrived.

    1. On stock firmware, 'restore factory default settings'
    2. Apply hard reset 30/30/30 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online
    3. Login to e3000 with stock firmware, perform 'firmware upgrade' to DD-WRT firmware, dd-wrt.v24-14853_NEWD-2_K2.6_std_usb_ftp-e3000, and wait until operation completed
    4. Apply hard reset 30/30/30 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online
    5. Now e3000 should be loaded with DD-WRT firmware
    6. Login to e3000 with DD-WRT firmware, reset nvram to default settings and wait until operation completed
    7. Power cycle e3000 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online
    8. Login to e3000 with DD-WRT, perform 'firmware upgrade' to tomato firmware, v1.28.7492 MIPSR2-Toastman-RT K26 USB Ext, and wait until operation completed
    9. Apply hard reset 30/30/30 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online
    10. Now e3000 should be loaded with tomato firmware
    11. Login to e3000 with tomato Toastman firmware, erase nvram and wait until operation completed
    12. Power cycle e3000 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online
    13. Login to e3000, go to page 'Advanced/Miscellaneous', setup CPU Frequency. Select value '480,240' from the drop down menu. 'save' and 'reboot' e3000 and wait for couple minutes for e3000 to be online. Note the CPU Freq is default to value '133' after erasing nvram.
    14. Login to e3000, go to page 'Status' page to verify CPU Freq now should reported as '480'
    15. Go to 'Basic' page to setup LAN and Wireless
    16. Verify wireless connections. If everything works as expected, shutdown and turn off power on e3000 for deployment
    17. Deployment
    17.1 Power off modem and wait for few minutes
    17.2 Connect Ethernet cable between Modem and e3000 WAN Port
    17.3 Power on modem and wait until it became online
    17.4 Power on e3000 and wait until it became online
    17.5 Login to e3000, go to page 'Status' page to verify System, WAN, LAN, Wireless operations

    My e3000 with tomato Toastman firmware has been in production for about two weeks. I'm very impress about tomato firmware. It's features rich and solid. So far, I have not seen connections dropped/disconnected as I experienced with the old setup with DLink DIR-655 and my phone calls [via Ooma Telo] are crystal clear (thanks to Toastman for his QoS settings). Based on my observations, I recommended this solution to several friends (we all have Ooma Telo for phone services) as NewEgg onsale (as of Dec 10, 2011) a refurbished Linksys E3000 for $50 with free shipping.
     
  5. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    ok, thanks guys. So here is the following conclusion and correct me if I'm wrong:
    So I changed over to the Toastman RT version as you guys mentioned.
    Did the 30-30-30 AND the NVRAM zap.
    nothing.
    So I decided out of curiosity "Why not?" and went to the Linksys e3000 base firmware.
    30-30-30
    seems alright.
    I check to see if I can find the 5ghz signal through inSSIDer on 2 different laptops. Nothing.

    My conclusion is one of 2 things:
    1. Does the 5GHZ need a wireless N device be able to do and accept 5GHZ?
    2. The 5GHZ reports its working in all firmwares, but it actually isn't outputting (even though the admin pages say it is) and thus is a defective hardware.

    If 1, is there an effective way to check like... through a terminal of some sort?
     
  6. ntest7

    ntest7 Network Guru Member

    Just because a device has wireless N support does not imply that the 5GHz band is supported. Make sure your devices support the 5GHz band before you spend time hacking on your router.
     
  7. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    What ntest7 says is very important. It appears that a lot of people are trying to use 5GHz when their laptops or wireless USB adapters don't have a 5GHz radio in it! If you don't know if the radio in your client supports 5GHz, please check with Google first. Generally, only quite recent laptops have it. Doesn't need to be "N" as long as it has 5GHz, but most 5GHz devices are actually "N" of course.
     
  8. occamsrazor

    occamsrazor Network Guru Member

    In my case the 5Ghz was working happily for a long time on my E3000 connected with MacBook Pro. It's only recently that it's dropped out. I need to do an NVRAM clear to verify if that is the problem, I just haven't found time yet...
     
  9. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    Ya, talked with my father and he mentioned the 5ghz setting would show up on the laptop... I guess my mind assumed if the laptop was around and purchased this year, it not only has Wireless N, but also 5GHz support. Sorry for the trouble.
    Now, anyone have any suggestions for wireless N adapters that can do 5GHz?
     
  10. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

    Cisco wsub600n is a nice one
     
  11. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

  12. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

  13. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  14. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    No, my iphone (old 3G) connected to the 5Ghz radio once. There should be a screen shot on one of my posts in this forum. I'll link if I find it.



    Regarding wireless laptop connections, if you have issues connecting to 5ghz radios I'd check the following:
    1. Check to see if there is newer wireless drivers for the laptop.
    2. Check the wireless laptop driver configurations in Windows to see if anything needs to be adjusted - on my laptop driver 5 ghz wasn't set to Auto, only 2.4 ghz. I changed it so both are set to Auto. The initial setting may have been a driver default before 5ghz radios became mainstream.
     
  15. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    Well thanks for that info guys.
    @pharma: Please post that link if you do find it. Also, the drivers are all as up to date as possible. One is broadcom based so I know going to broadcom's website for such drivers is not possible. The other is Atheros based. Both have no setting about the signal having 5GHz.
     
  16. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    zapoqx, just asking, have you tried Shibby mod?
     
  17. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    When I had a broadcom laptop I used to go to the link below to get the most recent. I found it very difficult to find recent drivers for their Broadcom hardware. They usually have updated drivers for different Broadcom drivers, including 802.1.1a/b/g/n.
    http://www.station-drivers.com/page/broadcom.htm
    Pharma
     
  18. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    @eahm: No, I haven't, but considering that I already found that most likely its because I don't have a 5GHz wireless n on any of the devices here, its understandable.

    @pharma: Ok... but I thought its always different since the chips can all be completely different like one being a 4318 and another being a 4322 but both could be Wireless G...?
     
  19. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Wireless adapters (Broadcom) can be different but may still use the same upgrade software, ie like your video card. At that site I believe they also list the Broadcom devices supported above each download. In most cases if you run the software and your device is not supported it will tell you and quit. If you have an old device I'd probably extract the files to a folder and install manually (Control panel, device manager) to first see if the software lists your device. Which wireless adapter do you have?
     
  20. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    well in my case, it is a 4318 for my laptop. I tried it out on my laptop just to be safe about it. It was interesting that I couldn't seem to get it to install through manual update, but it could be done through the install software. I was glad to get my afterburner option back that I've been soo missing back in Windows XP so thank you for that. The other laptop for broadcom, I don't know. I just know that when we were trying ubuntu on her laptop, I had to install the STA drivers for them to work. The numbers that are familiar are: 43224/43225. I didn't know in this case, it was the same like the vid card. I figured like Gigabyte with their motherboard stuff, it was better to get the realtek drivers from Gigabyte instead of from Realtek because if you got Realtek's, you most likely didn't have all the features.
     
  21. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    I remember when I had my old laptop with the Broadcom radio sometimes if the numbers were similar I'd take a chance to see if the upgrade worked. In most cases it did, but had to be done manually and if it worked found a bunch of "new" advanced options had been added.
     
  22. bucher

    bucher Networkin' Nut Member

    I can't seem to understand the broadcom driver numbers, it seems like 5.100.196.81 is dated 10/28/11 and 5.100.235.19 is dated 3/1/11. I was under the assumption that newer drivers had higher version numbers?
     
  23. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    You need to be very careful with firms like Broadcom. The supply a great many manufacturers with designs and firmware. You should view the version number as a label for a particular firmware for a particular client and job, and not necessarily issued in a linear manner. Neither is one version necessarily going to work better, or even at all, with another manufacturer's hardware.
     
  24. bucher

    bucher Networkin' Nut Member

    I see. Thanks. My wife's Lenovo has a "Broadcom 802.11n Adapter". The most current driver from Lenovo is from 2010.
     
  25. zapoqx

    zapoqx Networkin' Nut Member

    thats what I thought Toastman. Thanks for that.
     

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