Extremely slow connection. Problem with Tomato?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Weevils, May 6, 2009.

  1. Weevils

    Weevils Addicted to LI Member

    I've always had problems with my internet connection. Though it's fairly fast during games and surfing, it had slow speeds and lagged every other application when I ran (legal) torrents. Recently I bought a Linksys WRT56GL and installed Tomato firmware, and set up the QoS but don't seem to be getting quite the results I was hoping for. I ran a speed test and found that the speeds were well below average (http://www.speedtest.net/result/466699363.png), and was wondering if it's a problem with my router settings.

    Could anyone give some advice? I will post my QoS settings if they are important.
  2. bripab007

    bripab007 Network Guru Member

    I guess one question is: What router and firmware were you running before the Linksys WRT54GL?

    Another question: Did you attempt to configure the new WRT54GL/Tomato with the same settings as your previous set-up?

    And another: What should your advertised speed be, according to your ISP?

    Yet another: Have you tried running without QOS, either in the new setup or your previous router/firmware setup?

    Still more: What kind of connection do you have? DSL, cable, etc.? Have you ever tried plugging said device directly into your computer, bypassing the router altogether?
  3. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Weevils, post as much information as you can, including QOS config and basic setup, + conntrack/netfilter settings. Describe your exact problem, is it general slowness or are you talking about games latency being poor?
  4. Assman

    Assman Addicted to LI Member

    It seems like you 'had problems with internet' before you got new router, so why are you trying to 'fix' tomato?

    Also, there are no illegal torrents, only morons in the white house :)
  5. Weevils

    Weevils Addicted to LI Member


    I was using the default firmware on EBR-2310 before upgrading to WRT54GL with default firmware, then Tomato.

    I forgot my advertised speed, but it should be twice as fast according to the average. http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speedtest.jpg

    I haven't tested it without QoS yet. Usually when I go into Ventrilo with active torrents running, my ping will go up to something ridiculous like 3000. I don't have any active torrents right now so I will test it later.

    I am using Cable (RoadRunner). I haven't tried direct connection but I will test that later too.

    Here are my QoS settings.


    I am trying to fix tomato because I never properly configured my old router either. I just left it at default settings. I thought since Tomato can use more advanced configurations easily and the WRT54GL is superior to my old D-LINK EBR2310, tweaking the settings should improve my connection.
  6. bripab007

    bripab007 Network Guru Member

    Well, no, if you never reached advertised speeds with your old router, then you're probably not going to with the new router/Tomato, until you figure out where the problem lies. Sounds to me like, first things first, you need to connect your computer directly to your modem, and if you're not reaching advertised speeds, call up Road Runner and work with them until it's fixed.

    After that, come back here and we can help you set up Tomato and QOS properly. There's no point in even doing that until you get your modem/speed issue figured out.
  7. Weevils

    Weevils Addicted to LI Member

    I just connected it directly to the modem and ran some speed test. I'm consistently getting at LEAST 4.3Mb/s down and 0.49Mb/s up. My ventrilo doesn't seem to be lagging during torrents either. It's still not reaching the average for Roadrunner users, but I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with my router settings.
  8. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    OK. Tell us what your ISP's speed is supposed to be. Connect the WRT back up and turn off QOS - run the speed tests again several times, post the results for us (don't need a jpg - just the figures). The result should not be much different. We'll take it from there.

    Your QOS is the tomato sample QOS which is certainly a bit simplistic, and the L7 filter you're using very likely doesn't work either (many of them don't). When you run torrents, they will most likely run amok and swamp your router, which will cause the 3000 pings. You probably need to completely reconfigure your QOS. I've just posted a simple (ha!) setup as a base here:


    You might like to read this thread through to learn a bit about how QOS operates and how to control your torrent downloads. When you've got the general idea, post your specific queries here for help.

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