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I'm now a hacker! (by accident!) HELP PLEASE!

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by fantasymon, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. fantasymon

    fantasymon LI Guru Member

    I am REALLY confused!! Please help me!

    So I know very little about this stuff until tonight. I started with DD-WRT. I used it to "borrow" my neighbors internet :biggrin:. Everything was working pretty good. It was a little slow and seemed unreliable but it was going to work. Then I read about Tomato so I I loaded the firmware. I could not figure it out very easy and I was getting frustrated. I made a couple of random changes mainly with the ip addresses right before I was about to switch back to DD-WRT. The last thing I did was change the routers IP address to Then..BAM..my internet starting working...EXTREMELY fast. So I try to log into Tomato and it wouldn't let me at Then I tried and it appears to now be accessing my neighbors router and is asking for their login information (I am using an ethernet cord directly to my router.) So I was like sweet, I love this program.

    You may be asking what the problem is....

    Well I was all excited and tried to hook my 2nd computer up to the router. I pulled the ethernet cord out of the computer and hooked it up to the 2nd computer. But no internet. I was able to access Tomato at I then hooked the first computer up to the router on the 2 ethernet port..and it works! How can my router be assigning different addresses?

    Normally I would be content with the one computer working but this is my Mom's computer and I have to give it back to her next week.

    Any suggestions on how to make my other computer work like this one is on the same router? The internet it VERY fast...Did a test and it ran at 1900KBS.

    I really don't want to reset the router and start from scratch. I suck at using tomato.

  2. fantasymon

    fantasymon LI Guru Member

    Okay so I somehow got both computers working.

    Is this normal.....I have no access to tomato. When I try to log into tomato which is it is a dead page...But when I log into it takes me to my neighbors router. So essentially my router is picking up the signal and I am connecting to it through the ethernet ports....but why I have I lost all access to tomato?

  3. danix71

    danix71 LI Guru Member

    What you did is theft, not *borrowing*. Get yourself your own internet connection.

    PS: And it's a major difference between a hacker (white hat) and a cracker (black hat). You're not a hacker.
  4. kameleon

    kameleon LI Guru Member

    If done properly you would have gotten your neighbors consent. I have let my neighbors use my wireless before but believe me..... I knew about it and I LET them. I see 3 things wrong with your post.
    1.) You were stupid enough to post that you "borrowed" their internet.
    2.) You come asking us for help in doing illegal activities.
    3.) That your neighbors are crazy enough to have a wide open wifi connection (or did you crack the encryption too?)

    Correct me if I am wrong about any of this please. But as it stands, what you are doing is illegal just from face value.
  5. achapman

    achapman Guest

    Becuase you are on a class c subnet, your machine doesn't know how to route the traffic to your actual router, try changing your mask to a class b.
  6. azeari

    azeari LI Guru Member

    agreed.. just ask your neighbor already, or get yourself a connection. where i am, they've charged people for such activities before
  7. fantasymon

    fantasymon LI Guru Member

    can you say uptight?

    By saying that I was confused by the tomato software was pretty much stating that I am not a hacker.

    Secondly, it is not illegal. For something to be ILLEGAL, there must be a LAW against it. There is not one. Azerai, the people charged more than likely hacked into an encrypted wireless internet..which yes, is illegal.

    AChapman, I can't gain access to my router to change the subnet.
  8. szfong

    szfong Network Guru Member

    Please use unique subnet, and put it in client mode+DMZ (which I use) or client-bridge mode. Both feature is available in dd-wrt & tomato. I use WPA on one of my neighbor's/friend's connections, and no security on a public hotspot. His setup mirrors mine. We have our own Internet connection, but use each others as backup and on sites such as megaupload to rotate the ips. you can also use repeater-mode + vaps to do the same with fewer routers. I personally don't like repeater-mode as it halves throughput (on non-wired setups).

    btw, I almost forgot, use client mode instead of client bridge, client-bridge can expose your entire network/shares/printers to your neighbor. That's why I prefer client-mode.
  9. Maggard

    Maggard LI Guru Member

    "I do not think it means what you think it means"

    Before becoming rude to the people you've come to for help consider that perhaps they may also know a bit more about the word "hacker" then you.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html for more about the word and how it applies in this context.

    This is not legal advice, but a well informed observation, that in the USA it is indeed illegal to intercept wireless communications for which one is not the intended recipient, including in the ISM bands. This is not necessarily true for other nations, and on the intenet one is never sure of jurisdictions, but I do encourage you to better inform yourself before making assertions so... aggressively.

    Folks in the US have been prosecuted, successfully, for using other's unencrypted WiFi connections. For instance in Michigan it can result in five-year felony and a $10,000 fine. This applies not only to private citizen's WiFi devices but also those offered by public libraries & internet cafes.

    In any case, whatever your jurisdiction, covertly using your neighbor's resources without their consent is never justifiable.

    I don't know what relationship you or your family have with your neighbors but I doubt it'll be improved by their discovering you're using their connection, have access to their shared files, have possibly exposed them to legal action if you've downloaded copyrighted materials, etc. As you've already demonstrated poor judgment and a disregard for others with your surreptitious access to their network they'd be well justified in suspecting you of more serious transgressions.

    Sure you can - just reset the router to it's factory configuration (hint: hold down the recessed 'reset' button for 30 seconds while the router is powering up.)
  10. SgtPepperKSU

    SgtPepperKSU Network Guru Member

    Manually set your IP address to 192.168.2.something, change the subnet mask to on your router and your computer, change your ip settings back how it they were (except for subnet mask, of course), and you should have access to both routers.
  11. szfong

    szfong Network Guru Member


    Lastly, I just want to comment that it's inappropriate for you to ask "security" related questions and activities such as those on this site. You do not appear to know much about router setup/wireless communications.

    You might wish to go to: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ they have good security tools to assist you, there are also suites of tools pre-packaged as a bootable iso's on other sites that will assist you on your endeavors. In no time you will be an expert in whatever you wish to do with your knowledge. If you abuse that knowledge, don't be surprised if you get a knock on your door in the middle of the night.
  12. fantasymon

    fantasymon LI Guru Member


    I wasn't really asking security related questions, nor was I trying to hack into an encrypted wireless. The wireless I am using is no encrypted and the radio waves are on my property.

    Anyways, this is what my network adapter is reading: (The ?s are for my protection)

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix: ok.?????.net
    Description: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Physical Address: 00-30-??-A4-BB-FD
    DHCP Enabled: Yes
    IPv4 IP Address:
    IPv4 Subnet Mask:
    Lease Obtained: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:42:54 PM
    Lease Expires: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:42:58 PM
    IPv4 Default Gateway:
    IPv4 DHCP Server:
    IPv4 DNS Servers: 68.???.28.11, 68.???.29.11, 68.???.28.12
    IPv4 WINS Server:
    NetBIOS over Tcpip Enabled: Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::1e1:????:3c50:4bd7%8
    IPv6 Default Gateway:
    IPv6 DNS Server:

    So if I am going through my router with tomato and then to the router with internet access, how do you gain access to the tomato setup?

    When I log into my router wirelessly, the internet doesn't work and it takes me to the tomato setup ( Can you make the wireless work too? I was told tomato can't be set up as a repeater?

    What is ipv6 vs ipv4?

  13. szfong

    szfong Network Guru Member

    Set your router to something like

    The other router may already be

    Set tomato in client-mode, not client-bridge.

    Associate your ssid with the other AP.

    That's about all. Your router will no longer serve as an AP, though. A different firmware may allow you to create VAPs, effectively functioning as a repeater.

    Thats about all there is to it.
  14. Roimeister

    Roimeister LI Guru Member

    LOL... thats a good one
  15. ziddey

    ziddey Network Guru Member

    cannot change to class b since 192 is class c inherently.

    as for on your property.... by that logic, by connecting to the network, your signals would be going to your neighbor's property. how embarrassing!

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