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Linksys E4200 v1 3 years old now.... been a fantastic router

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by FattysGoneWild, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    What do you guys think? Its been on 24/7 and wondering if its time for a replacement? Its hooked up to cable internet with a Motorola SB6141 modem. Internet service is 100mb/5mb. I just recently flashed it to Victek's latest beta "x" version. I waited way to long staying on stock firmware. Kick myself in the rear for that one! At the same time. I am trying to hold out for the new Linksys WRT1900AC. That thing sounds and looks so beastly! I imagine Tomato would be a ways off with that model once it hits? Current devices hooked up.

    Desktop (wired)
    Desktop (wireless 5GHz)
    Ooma Telo (wired)
    PS4 (wired)
    Printer (wireless 2.4GHz N)
    Directv On Demand (wired)
    Netbook (wireless 5GHz)

    I honestly don't know hardware wise and power. How much the E4200 is behind compared to now? A huge margin? Maybe continue to ride it out until it dies? I don't know......
     
  2. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    E4200 should be more than enough for your connection and devices until you're ready to upgrade to 802.11ac.
     
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  3. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    If those 5Ghz devices are only N, then you still have a lot of juice in your router to hold them all together and then some. You are also well within Wan to Lan speed limit on it.
     
  4. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    Wow. Sounds like the E4200 v1 is still a powerful router. I am really surprised considering it is 3 years old. I pretty much got it when it first came out like a month or 2 later.

    You are also well within Wan to Lan speed limit on it.

    Do you mean I am at about the max for this router and Tomato? I am getting a speed increase soon but only on the upload side. 5mb to 7mb. Thank you both for the input and others if they chime in.
     
  5. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    Max for that router is about double your current bandwidth.
     
  6. fefrie

    fefrie Serious Server Member

    I say keep it. If it's not broke, don't replace it.

    Also, more powerful routers consume more power. Every watt counts.

    So keep it out of the landfill for a bit longer and save energy doing it.
     
  7. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    Well I just found out we are getting a speed increase real soon. Currently 100mb/5mb but its going to 200mb/5mb. Still think the router will be fine? Or time for a new one? Worst case I would have to flash back to stock firmware if Tomato can't pull 200mb on the download side? That would completely suck. I like Tomato.

     
  8. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    That's at the upper limit of what that router can currently handle without fastnat in Tomato. If you want that last few mbps then you can consider switching to Shibby's Tomato and enable fastnat (modprobe bcm_nat).
     
  9. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    I still get higher throughput with victek speedmod build than with shibby one with bcmnat enabled
     
  10. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    Hopefully Elfew, the ARM race won't interfere with his work.. Speedtest versions were / are a breaktrough, allowing limited Tomato features but, my oh my the speed it allows B-)
     
  11. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    Fortunately my main router can handle my 200/100 connection from my provider :)
     
  12. arakhm

    arakhm Networkin' Nut Member

    SmallNetBuilder.com says that even with stock firmware e4200v1 handles much more throughput than 200/100.
    Does Tomato get it worse?
     

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  13. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    If I am wrong. Someone can correct me. But, you can thank CTF for that with stock firmware. Something Tomato cannot do or limited in some capacity I believe.
     
  14. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    I don't think it can go higher than 150 with Tomato... 200 Mbps with Fast Nat. It's a BCM4718 exactly like Asus N-16...
    Tomato can do it, there's no doubt about it, the CTF module loads without problems with insmod, I'm not sure it works tough. Only recently CTF went back into Tomato developers attention because, well, ISPs started to provide greater speeds at reasonable cost. When you have a 100/5, you don't need to worry about anything. 200/5 can be probably achieved by only using FastNat. Everything above requires CTF...
     
  15. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    With normal build from victek on my old rt16n I achieve 188mbit

    With speedtest over 220.

    On my ac56 with arm there is no problem with throughput. CPU can handle more than single core old rt16n
     
  16. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    @FattysGoneWild .. about the first question, E4200 it's one of my preferred devices, low power consumption, stable. If we talk about wireless range with latest drivers it's more than enough. About WAN-LAN throughput it's enough for 100/100Mbps with Tomato, if you need higher throughput then use Linksys firmware, all tomato, dd-wrt and OpenWRT can't deliver enough bandwidth due to Broadcom propietary drivers and lack of information for third party firmware. It's a great model.
     
  17. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    @Elfew : Do a Iperf test WAN -> LAN disabling CTF on that shiny AC56 of yours... you will be surprised how low it will score. The rest is all marketeese!

    I'm really curious of a test like that also, I have my reasons...

    Also all routers based on old gen BCM 4718, are still great routers up to 150 mbps! stable and fast!
     
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  18. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Do you remember what you posted here?
    http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?threads/tomato-raf-releases.63093/page-32#post-243326

    And the test WAN-LAN done with Tomato RAF running on RT-AC56U can be read three post below... E= enabled D=disabled

    We forget sometimes ;)
     
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  19. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    @Victek : Believe me, I don't forget :)
    I just like to point out the obvious to Elfew, again, and again... ;)
     
  20. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    Well its a crying damn shame. Not the fault of you guys. I guess they don't like others making better firmware then stock. I went ahead and rolled back to stock firmware since the speed increase is coming soon. I will just have to get a new ARM router when Tomato matures a little bit more for them.
     

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