Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by Esquire, Sep 30, 2005.
Note V.5 firmware is incompatible with older hardware versions.
V.5 product page
So, what is new?
The firmware size (1.15MB) seems to indicate that they're not using Linux anymore. Congratulations, Linksys - this will cause more customer confusion...
EDIT: The firmware is based on VxWorks, but the hardware is still Broadcom.
On the FCC photos it looks very much like the GSv4, so it might be possible to modify Firmware like OpenWrt to run on it.
so um, whats the point of coming out with a new version every 6 months or sumthin..... why all the new versions?
people always want the latest of everything. this increases sales. all seems to me is a marketing ploy, with new hardware that is cheaper to make.
but the gpl comatiblity and the various third party firmwares are definitly also a reason for the high selling count.
i guess we could get openwrt and dd-wrt it to run in v5 routers, but in future it could be difficult to obtain the latest broadcom drivers. (except from other broadcom based source distributions like asus)
I have posted this as a sticky as i want anyone with a WRT54G v5 to note that at present 3rd party firmwares are incompatable, until further testing has taken place.
You have been warned.
I attempted to flash my v5 with dd-wrt and freemanbasic with no luck. the router just spits it back and won't even attempt to run the update. i was informed that the nvram is 2mb.
a update to v5 routers isnt possible yet. i need a test unit to find out how to adjust the firmware format.
The new WRT54G still runs under Linux. The adapter is different and supply now 0.5 A. I'll hope there soon comes a 3th party firmware with more possibility's.
The Lan ports access seems a little faster but this is only a feeling.
no it doesnt run under linux. thats definitly from. just take a look at the v5 firmware binary
It's possible it got a different bootloader too. That may require the use of JTAG to get linux on it...
Anyway, looks like the WRT54GS will stay Linux...
Question about the last comment. I replaced my crappy as hell Sweex, mainly because of norange wireless and 2 of 4 ports had given up working. I was recommended a Linksys. Well, brand new so V5.
The only problem I I have with it now, is that it's slower than the Sweex. I get a 750kb/s dl with the direct output of my ADSL modem and with the Linksys function as router/switch I loose 300kb/s and speed is irregular.
Any ideas, please help.
The only thing I can do for the moment is hooking the Sweex back up for my PC and put the Linksys on the other working port for the rest of the network.
Strange. I always thought they went to VxWorks on the v5 for speed. Looks like the v5 might kill their whole sales if it is that slow. The only thing it needs is a bad review...
Yeah, I'd back up the slowness of it. I didn't test it, because I just returned it right away after reading about the V.5 issues...but it was much, much slower than my old SMC Barricade.
I just installed a v5 before finding this site and yes, it is slow. Much slower than my Netgear FVS318.
The v5 is a POS. Going back to the store tomorrw.
May not be impossible...
From what I understand Linksys has just reduced the amount of flash to 2MB, but the other components are the same. This reminded me of the Belkin F5D7230, which is also Linux based (Belkin GPL page) and most later versions having 2MB of flash (Seattle Wireless).
A slimmer distibution would be necessary, but I don't think 2MB is too small as The Linux Router Project (fits on a floppy) shows us. Not much different than replacing an OS on a computer: Just because it shipped with Windows doesn't mean you can't install Linux on it. I'm sure vxWorks could be replaced with a Linux distro small enough to fit in the 2MB flash.
Just my 2 cents on the topic...
Confirmation of SLOW v5
Cuts my speed almost exactly in half. Cut my cable speeds from 3-3.5 Meg down to 1.5-1.6. Tested this many many times. Flashed Bios from 1.0 1.02. No improvement.
Went to work and unplugged T1 from our backbone and connected this guy. ( scheduled downtime for a rack move )
It cut my speeds to just under 800.
Highly disappointed :thumbdown:
This may help to explain why retailers are discounting this heavily.
Anyone have any recomendations/suggestions/alternatives on the wrt54gx4 with srx 400??? I'm taking this one back and need another one.
by amazon and newegg customer feedback
V5 is a wrong move
I have V3 54G, works well, nice RF (antenna is upgradable)
but I'd like to find a 3rd firmware to make it wireless bridge (wifi>LAN) to make it work with PS2 and XBOX
For v5, it's the product with the "Green button on the front" ?
(the easy setup function for WPA like i read).
My WRT54G V4 has a green circle on the front marked "Secure Easy Setup". The V4 and V5 look identical on the outside, as far as I know.
Best bet is to look at the serial number, which is printed both on the box and on the unit. Serial #'s starting in CDFA and earlier = good, CDFB = V5.
and for those that already have the unit on the bottom it says 'model no. WRT54G v5'
I bought this one, not knowing the v5 sucks so bad. Have it hooked up to my cable modem and haven't run into any problems yet. It came with 1.00.4, I haven't upgraded to .6 yet, haven't felt the need to.
Perhaps I just got lucky. In any case, I'm rather disappointed that I can't use any custom firmwares, my port forwarding page is full and I need 2 more spaces!
I have 1 wired and 2 wireless (one laptop, 1 PSP), and so far everything is good. But now I'm afraid to update to .6, and ruin my streak of good luck.
The v5 is unable to hold a static IP from comcast business either. Get to reset it once a day minimum! It loves to take the IP of the gateway or assign a LAN IP as the WAN IP! It seems to love doing the LAN thing of late with the 1.06 firmware as I haven't seen it try to grab the gateway in a few weeks. This thing is the ultimate POS. Glad the office picked one up and found this out before I bought mine. I picked up a GL from newegg and slapped DDWRT on it!
Even after upgrade to firmware v 1.00.6 it's still a POS
v5 is perhaps the worst thing Linksys could have done.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
hi all, i own a 54G v5. after upgraded to 1.00.9 firmware, everything seems stable to me. at least i wont need to reset the router everyday. anyone upgraded to 1.00.9 firmware??
I got my v5 at Walmart for $50. Woohoo...spendy paper weight!! I solved the problem by selling the thing on ebay for $40 + $10 shipping, so I almost broke even. I then put $100 in my pocket and went to Boise on a mission. I was going to go to every single place that sold Linksys products and go through every single router until I found a WRT54GS version 2, 2.1, or 3. I like the SES button (I'm determined to hack it), but didn't want a V4 because of the decreased RAM and flash memory. The very first place I stopped was Office Max. The second GS I picked up had a serial number beginning with CGN4!! I about fell over!! It was the only pre-v4 they had, but they had a gobb of v4's. I bought it for $72 including tax.
I now cruise ebay in search of back-ups and spares. I have a G v3 that is my main back-up, but would like to find another GS v2, 2.1, or 3......at least one more. My fear is that Cisco/Linksys is going to continue to produce v5 type garbage and I don't want to be forced into using one if I can help it. So I'm hoarding the good ones!! I even buy dead ones in hopes of fixing them.......running about 50/50 on that. Maybe if we quit buying the v5 they'll get the picture!! Thanks for letting me rant. :thumbup:
yes thats true because the firmware for v5 is for the firmware v5 alone.it cant be used for other WRT54G router.:thumbup:
Version info. for 1.50.9 firmware release
Looks like Linksys put out a new official v5/6 firmware having a release date of 0ct 1.
If I missed it somewhere else don't fry me, I'm still new here.
I have been reading all of the posts. The reason for me posting this reply is because I have a client who is dropped from his WRT54G. His router is not the WRT54G it is actually the linksyse router supplied by vonage, which is wireless. So the WRT54G is actually a switch. I do not remember if I have done an upgrade or not.... Any suggestions would be great.
V5, V5.1 and V6 WRT54GS can all be flashed with DD-WRT. I have done all 3 and it makes a big big difference!
I got a WRT54G v5 at a garage sale for $10! I had a little trouble installing. Not as brain dead as my older Dlink 802.11b. After several drop outs, I tried this.
0) Upgraded firmware to 1.01.0
1) Changed the channel to CH1 from the default 6.
2) used WPA instead of WEP.
Works fine now
I have one desktop directly connected and one Centrino (R) based laptop connected wirelessly.