Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Etienne49, Dec 8, 2006.
Is there any manual or wiki about tomato ?
there is only the readme witch is included in the download !
This is part of a email i wrote to Jon:
...Is a WiKi or FAQ section planned ? Or maybe a forum ? ....
and he answered this:
...No wiki or faq. The closest would be the readme I guess. linksysinfo.org has
a forum for it....
Does Jon plan to do it in the future, or may the community should do it ?
i think thats a job for the community :biggrin:
Why build a wiki when Wikipedia would be happy to have an article? I just started a "Tomato Firmware" article on Wikipedia, you can see it at:
I've added some sections and a few bits of instruction, but obviously it needs a lot of work.
Ok, I think that's a good start. :thumbup: Maybe it's a good way to pay my due to the community.:wink: Hum! I'll have to improve my english... :redface:
Hmm, the Wiki may be short lived on Wikpedia. It has been classified as a "how to" and those are apparently not allowed on Wikipedia.
(as I desperately cut and paste all the text I spent time entering, along with the contributions from others, and back it up to my hard drive)
Maybe Jon would let you post a wiki on polarcloud.com???
That's one possibility. I can also post one on my own webspace - I'm not lacking in bandwidth or space. I just tried a shortcut, since I assumed Wikipedia wouldn't mind having an article out there. You know how a lot of shortcuts work out! LOL.
Next backup please :biggrin:
I went ahead and extracted what I could from the Wiki, reformatted it, and dumped the result on my web space.
This is NOT a Wiki. It's also not complete. I just didn't want to lose what we had so far.
I have installed Wiki software on my webspace, I'm just reluctant to do so due to security concerns. So, for the moment, if anyone has any significant updates, please PM me via the forum. I'll be traveling next week, so I may not get back to you immediately.
What about moving the "how-to" sections of the article to Wikibooks, as Wikipedia suggests?
Tomato should have an article on Wikipedia, but this should be a higher level description of the firmware, rather than a full set of instructions.
I vote for Tievolu !
Works for me:
For me too :biggrin:
Cool. I've removed the detailed instructions from the Wikipedia page, tidied up the external links, and added a Wikibooks tag.
I may add some more information to the Wikipedia page if I have some time today.
This is a great initiative indeed! I've added a small part to this wiki, regarding the CIFS client. I hope to add some more some time later.
Well, that didn't last long! The wikipedia article has been deleted as "extreme spam", and A7, G11, which corresponds to the following reasons:
Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject.
Blatant advertising. Pages which exclusively promote a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company, product, group or service as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion: an article that is blatant advertising should have inappropriate content as well. If a page has previously gone through deletion process and was not deleted, it should not be speedily deleted under this criterion.
Slightly irritating that this wasn't even up for discussion! I'm not sure how this was deemed spam or advertising - it was a simple description of the firmware, which is completely free...
Anyway, the Wikibooks article is much more important I think, and that's intact. Personally I can't be bothered to start playing games with the editors by recreating the Wikipedia article.
Wikipedia has their policies, which I was not aware of when I posted the original article. My bad, not theirs.
It was up for discussion, and as the author I had the option of deleting the "non-encyclopedic" portions, but of course only the introduction was encyclopedic, so there was little point in trying to keep it.
If I wasn't on the road, I might have done some edits to try and keep it, but my main focus was on getting the material we all worked on saved to Wikibooks.
I've contacted the Wikipedia admin who deleted the article asking if it can be resurrected long enough for me to turn it into an encyclopedia article, similar to the one on DD-WRT. If not, no big deal.
It's ok, the Wikipedia article has been recreated (actually by me - Cheesey is another name I sometimes go by...). The new article was also flagged for speedy deletion, for the same reasons as before, but I spotted it in time, disputed it, and now the article has been expanded and is doing well in true Wikpedia style.
It seems that the speedy deletion happened simply because the editor(s) were not really aware of the nature of Tomato (they seemed to be under the impression that it was a commercial company that we were trying to advertise).
Significantly expanded the Wikibooks article on Tomato this evening, adding content in the basic setup menus, and the Admin Access area. If anyone has any suggestions on what they might be interested in, I'll focus in those areas.
Hi @ All,
i started to port the Wiki to the german Wikipedia.
Tomato @ wikipedia.de
Tomato @ wikibooks.de
So now i need assistance in translate the Wiki into german. So feel free to help :biggrin:
Happy to. As long as the words are limited to "Volkswagen", "Yes", "No", a small smattering of other words of dubious accuracy, and a few select swear words and insults, I'm your man.
I'm a BAD translator i know but with this comment i have serious :biggrin: problems. Whats your message ?
Sorry, it was intended as a joke. I know a few German words, limited mostly to "yes", "no", "Volkswagen", a few other words I think I know and may be wrong, and a few insults and swear words.
So, if you need help translating any of those, I'd be able to help. Not really relevant to an instruction manual on Tomato, though (unless an upgrade goes badly, then the swear words might come in handy, but they aren't generally in the manuals.
I suppose you meant "ja" and "nein".:biggrin:
Oh, and yes, I'm working on it too.
Danke fÃ¼r Deine Hilfe.
Es gibt viel zu tun, packen wirs an :biggrin:
The Tomato article on Wikipedia is back to being flagged for deletion, as some people think that Tomato is not notable per Wikipedia's proposed software guidelines. At least this time, there's a debate.
Well, the articles on DD-WRT, HyperWRT, OpenWrt, TinyPEAP, Tomato and WiFi-Box all got deleted because they did not meet the notability requirements. Only the Tomato discussion page had a notice posted.
The article on Sveasoft remains, seemingly notable because of the GPL-related controversies.
I'm curious about if the German Wikipedia is deleted (redirected) as well ?