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Multi SSID with Tomato on WRT54GL?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by heinz.neumann, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. heinz.neumann

    heinz.neumann LI Guru Member

    Hi folks,

    after searching the net for hours now I'm really confused. There are web pages which announce that there is beta open source firmware allowing for multiple SSIDs on a WRT54GL (but there is nothing more to find than the announcement), and others telling that this is simply impossible with this hardware.
    But: I would really love to see multiple SSIDs (at least 2) on my WRT54GL, and more than that I would love to see this in Tomato...
    Is there any chance for that?

    Heinz
     
  2. Slimey

    Slimey Network Guru Member

    dd-wrt or openwrt
     
  3. heinz.neumann

    heinz.neumann LI Guru Member

    That's what exactly what I already read on other web pages, but unfortunately I cannot find any docs on how this is configured (multi SSID is not mentioned at all in any documentation I could find :confused:), and I do not want to reflash my router (running Tomato, as you can easily guess) just to find out that it doesn't work (or at least I cannot get it running).

    Can anyone positively confirm this (multi SSID in dd-wrt/openwrt) is working on a WRT54GL?

    But even more important for me would be: is there any chance that multi SSID can be integrated into Tomato? (Jon? Roadkill?)
     
  4. xur17

    xur17 LI Guru Member

    I would also love for this to be in tomato. I have a DS which does not work with WPA encryption, so I have a separate router that I can connect my DS to. If tomato could allow me to use two separate SSIDs, one with WEP and one with WPA, and then separate the WEP one from my local network, I would be very happy. I know that I have seen this in newer versions of ddwrt, and I am sure it is probably in other firmwares also.
     
  5. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member

    I would be happy to see this feature too. I run in a similar problem with a device that doesnt support wpa. Running WEP und WPA on the same tomato would solve this.
     
  6. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    In dd-wrt V24 RC3 (and there are later version now) I can confirm that (i) SSID1 with WPA2 Enterprize [AES] and (ii) SSID2 with WPA/WPA2 personal [AES+TKIP], works together beautifully. This is on a GL (but the WRT model should not matter much as long as it can run dd-wrt).

    I would also love this on Tomato....
     
  7. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    this feature is simply a matter of newer wireless driver than what currently exists in Tomato
     
  8. heinz.neumann

    heinz.neumann LI Guru Member

    OK, that sounds to me like a real chance that we will see this in Tomato some time in the future, or maybe in roadkill's mod? :biggrin:
    Roadkill: I think I read that you did some experiments with newer drivers in your mod, didn't you?
     
  9. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    I did some preliminary testing it's not ready yet... soon :grin:
     
  10. bhlonewolf

    bhlonewolf LI Guru Member

    Out of curiosity, where are you pulling the latest drivers from?
     
  11. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    sorry, can't discuss it on an open forum.
     
  12. Elbart

    Elbart LI Guru Member

    Magicians don't tell their tricks, hm? :wink:
     
  13. bhlonewolf

    bhlonewolf LI Guru Member

    hmmm ... ok. Can't imagine why, unless it's proprietary. But then, it wouldn't be distributable anyway.
     
  14. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    Wouldn't it be good if Broadcom released Broadcom drivers and release notes for use in firmware on Broadcom Hardware?

    They do - but not to end customers or 3rd party developers.

    So all we can do is extract the drivers from GPL source-code distributions, or extract from compressed filesystems either in released firmware upgrades or running on supplied routers.

    I don't know where dd-wrt/ Sveasoft get their drivers from, but I suggest a trawl through Asus, Belkin, Buffalo, Linksys, Neufbox sources/ firmware...

    There's also an opensource project to legally reverse engineer Broadcom drivers.

    Note that the Broadcom drivers do seem to be well written and extensively backward compatible, but newer drivers do tend to take more ram/ processor so may not be useful for older hardware.
     
  15. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    it's working but it includes many adjustments for new hardware so it's uses more memory...
    and yes I think DD-WRT/Sveasoft simply search the most stable broadcom driver among all Broadcom sources released.
     
  16. sllink

    sllink Addicted to LI Member

    Any update on when Tomato might support multiple SSIDs?
     
  17. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member

    Had to change one of my 7 Routers within my wds to dd-wrt 24. This firmware runs multiple ssids with WPA2/TKIP+AES and WEP 128 perfect. Curious which broadcom drivers are used in the dd-wrt firmware und can i get tomato to run multiple ssids by setting some nvram settings with the nd version?
     
  18. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    I am also curious as to when this might be out :)
     
  19. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  20. nvtweak

    nvtweak LI Guru Member

    this is how to check driver version in tomato.. maybe the same with dd-wrt std. run this command from telnet/ssh

    dmesg |grep Controller
     
  21. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    I've posted this before in Victek mod thread, but may be of use here

    Tomato has been ported to this netgear device, but this GPL looks very much like standard Broadcom Reference material.
     
  22. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member

    Sorry. This command runs perfect in tomato but doesn't show anything in dd-wrt 24. Any other methods to check the drivers? How can download a log using telnet?
     
  23. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    I don't think the DD-WRT log shows the wireless driver version. You can go double check if you'd like, the log which should be in /var/log/messages. But a "wl ver" command should give you the driver version in either Tomato or DD-WRT. FYI, on my latest Tomato and DD-WRT builds, the Tomato "new driver" is version 4.130.19.0 and the DD-WRT "new driver" is 4.150.10.5.
     
  24. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member


    Thats right. DD-WRT doesnt show it in the log. The command "wl ver" stats: 4.150.10.5. Seems like this version is necessary for multi SSIDs...

    Any way to integrate it in tomato from the dd-wrt source?
     
  25. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    we're working on it...
     
  26. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member

    I reswitch to tomato immediately if this is done. Keep on the good work.
     
  27. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  28. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Thanks for this link Roadkill, your script seems to be working for me.

    What would really be icing on the cake though, is if that script could be used in conjunction with a virtual SSID. I want a virtual SSID to be completely isolated/separated from the user(s) on my real LAN & SSID.
     
  29. non7top

    non7top Addicted to LI Member

    Any news on this? I'd be very happy to see this feature in tomato
     
  30. hardlink

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  31. qubo

    qubo Addicted to LI Member

    Any aprox deathline to multi SSID to be release ? what about the tests
    thanks for the people involved in this nice feature for tomato.
     

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