Ok heres my OLD setup Primary comp -> router -> modem -> internet My comp -> hub -> router -> modem -> internet dads comp -> hub -> router -> modem -> internet dads comp2 -> router -> modem -> internet bros comp -> router -> modem -> internet and this setup worked 100% fine. Now we have family staying at our place and i was forced to rewire the network so I can have my comp in the basement. Now its: Primary comp -> router -> modem -> internet My comp -> hub -> router -> modem -> internet bros comp -> hub -> router -> modem -> internet dads comp2 -> router -> modem -> internet for some reason, after trying things for HOURS upon hours, this setup doesn't work. I've tried resetting all the devices, restarting, running network wizards, manually giving DNS and IP, more rewiring, messing around with settings, the whole works, and NOTHING seems to make it work. when I plug in a cable to my comp, it says aquiring network address, for like 2 minutes, then says theres limited or no activity. This is the SAME on my bros comp. Oddly enough, when I go into the network on my bros comp... it seems that me and him are still networked... odd. but anyways, can anyone give me any suggestions? EDIT: Alright, I just tried entering all my DNS/GATEWAY/IP info manually into the tcp/ip protocol in the network setup menu. I got interesting results. After i entered it, it said my network was connected... but I still couldn't get on the internet. THEN I disabled it, and enabled it and it said "Network cable is unplugged". SO, I just checked all the cables, and they are all fine and dandy, and correctly plugged in. Question: Should the uplink cable on the hub go to the uplink slot on the router? When i do that, i get less lights flashing on my hub. Right now its connected into slot "1" in the router.