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Newer Tomato versions not newbie user friendly?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by FattysGoneWild, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. FattysGoneWild

    FattysGoneWild LI Guru Member

    What do you guys think? Personally for new people. I think the settings and features are overwhelming for a newbie. You guys think Tomato has advanced so far now. Its geared more towards power users? You are pretty much at the mercy of the developer trusting they use optimal default settings. A guide explaining what features do what is some what nearly impossible. As devs. use their own set of features and settings.
     
  2. lancethepants

    lancethepants Network Guru Member

    There's always EasyTomato.
     
  3. Mercjoe

    Mercjoe Network Guru Member

    I respectfully disagree.

    All the original Tomato options and design elements are still in the same place. Sure, things have been added, but if you do not configure the 'newer' stuff, it will not effect the basic routing functions of the router.

    As for 'optimal setting', the only place you might find a problem is in the QOS classifications. Even then, Toastman has put together a pretty comprehensive 'starter' configuration that is a default on his firmware.
     
  4. Monk E. Boy

    Monk E. Boy Network Guru Member

    Some of the builds are overwhelming for me, and I'm far from a newbie. But the solution is simple... don't download a version that has as many options. Choose a Mini build or the like, which will have fewer options included.

    All of Toastman's builds are very close to the original Tomato builds, you have to go for a VLAN version to get something noticeably different.
     
  5. rs232

    rs232 Network Guru Member

    To be fair I sort of agree with the original post. I log into tomato daily and I think I know every single parameter by now, but there are people that just want a quick setup but they don't want to get involved with all the settings available. I can see margin of improvements here like a wizard for the initial setup.

    Why not?
     
  6. remlei

    remlei Networkin' Nut Member

    you can always stick to OEM firmware for user friendly setup (which is commonly they have cd setup for some sort of wizard configuration of the sort). I mean you dont need much of the option offers by tomato right? sticking with OEM firmware is a good idea.
     
  7. Almaz

    Almaz Serious Server Member

    Second to what Remlei said. Why would anyone without any knowledge even thinking about changing firmware in the first place???? If you don't do anything besides just browsing internet, no one would even know what tomato is. I find myself Tomato pretty basic, simple, easy firmware to understand. Don't make it so complicated and don't think too much.
     
  8. dziny

    dziny Reformed Router Member

    Actually there is a good reason. New firmware patches security vulnerabilities, in particular some really major ones like the openssl bugs. In some sense SOHO routers are really broken, most people never upgrade firmware leaving their home network security really open to hacks/exploits.
     
  9. Almaz

    Almaz Serious Server Member


    Trust me, most people don't know what openssl or vpn is. Most of the people do not upgrade firmware or even change default router passwords. People don't know what firmware is. I work in IT department and I couldn't believe myself at first when people don't even know basic things. Leave alone routers :) All they know a small black box for the internet.
     
  10. Retronite

    Retronite Reformed Router Member

    Everyone has different desires and ways in setting up there SOHO device. Before I delved into Tomato from using the original stock firmware, I bought an identical second router and configured it as to how I wanted it offline and made any final adjustments when live.

    It was quite a bit of a learning curve but I had took my time and made sure it was how I wanted it during the tests offline (Using the right firmware, features, etc for my households needs). Then a quick router swap over (Whilst the family was least likely to complain the most) to go live and check for any instability issues. When happy, I'll configure the first router in the same manner and experiment with new features, etc that I wish to add for further ease of use.

    Of course, any issues that do come along then revert it back to the previous SOHO device. Less downtime on the home network.

    I keep alternating the routers until I've finally done and will use the two routers to expand on the wireless signal within my house. :cool:

    I'm not one for always updating to the latest firmware.

    So it would be good to show a few more examples/descriptions of each feature on the GUI for the user to understand on what it exactly does. :)
     

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