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periodic lag burst issues?

Discussion in 'Networking Issues' started by dmaster, Jun 22, 2005.

  1. dmaster

    dmaster Guest

    I have a WRT54G, conecting with a Belkin wireless NIC.

    frequently, i get a large burst of lag, and this is only noticeable when I'm playing games I guess, where everything sorta freezes for a few seconds (5-6) and then quickly catches up. Unfortunately, when this happens while I play Diablo 2, that means I'm dead, and if I'm playing poker that means I may have even lost money. Not exactly the sort of performance I'm looking for.

    I upgraded the firmware on the router, I've changed the channels on the router up and down, so I'm not sure what else I can do, since nothing so far has helped. We have a cordless phone, but it disconnected me when the router was on Channel 1, so I assume it's not the issue if i'm not on that channel any more, right? (it's not disconnecting me or anything when it rings, and its not ringing when I get the hits of lag).

    Is there some sort of outside interference that's strong enough to hose my connection to the router, or is this an issue with the NIC or the router or what? I'm clueless as to what to troubleshoot next, but I'm frustrated at the lack of quality performance here. Any help is appreciated.
     
  2. bytes2000

    bytes2000 Network Guru Member

  3. kusotare

    kusotare Network Guru Member

    i have the exact same issue, but heres my problem:
    linksys WRT54G router.
    linksys wusb54g wireless adapter.
    no cordless phones and im out in the middle of nowhere, so theres no interference.
    has anyone found a fix for this? i know theres a lot of gamers out there who are plagued by this problem.
     
  4. flopez

    flopez Network Guru Member

    i have the exact same problem and it's driving me crazy because i play games online and it makes me either crash/die in whatever game i'm playing, i think it's just the nature of wireless, maybe it just can't keep up with the games.
     
  5. flopez

    flopez Network Guru Member

    anyone else having this problem?
     
  6. flopez

    flopez Network Guru Member

    anyone have a fix for this? i'm desperate and this problem is driving up a freakin' wall.
     
  7. thidol

    thidol Network Guru Member

    Yeah, i also get this problem. If you packet sniff your wireless card you'll notice that the ping spikes every time an ARP packet is received/sent. Meaning its purely the "router" and not the wireless connection. I've emailed various "moderators" on various different forums about this issue, but all of them reply to me telling me what ARP IS, and don't really read my whole email which then means they don't answer the issue. I beleive everyone with a WRT54G experiences this problem when playing games, and I also beleive its due to the firmware. My only suggestion would be to try use something like Alchemy(the firmware), you'd have to dish out $20 for it, as I haven't seen anyone useing this firmware complain about this issue. Whether this means none of them play games or not, thats beyond me. Then again, who knows if this will fix the problem, i personally don't have the $20USD to test this... A little bit more "experienced" help would be appreciated on this matter, so if anyone out there that actually knows a thing or two about networking could respond to this, it would be appreciated... ;'|

    Edit: Btw, I have a WRT54G v2.2... If you respond to this and you have this issue, post what version you have...
     
  8. thidol

    thidol Network Guru Member

    Any form of response would be nice... even immature ones...
     
  9. zachaller

    zachaller Network Guru Member

    You are all a bunch of stupid idiots lol

    no just kidding any way i have some what of the same trouble to when i am using just my WRT54G not with games or anything but if i am downloading something it will just stop or seem to slow way down.
     
  10. thidol

    thidol Network Guru Member

    Yeah zachaller, the packets are sent even when you arn't gameing, so you would experience "way slow" download speeds every so often seconds/minutes. I also experience that when downloading as well, but while downloading it isn't really that big of an issue as it is when playing games, although it is just as annoying... "reply's" to this thread though, i was hopeing that someone with a littler bit more experience would chip in his/her's cence worth, but clearly this isn't a reality and i don't mean to offend anyone, even though at this point its makeing me angry.

    To shed some light on the ARP packet anyway as quoted from an email i received:
    "This is an ARP (Adress Resolution Protocol) packet. ARP is the method by
    which machines discover who has a given IP address on a local area network.
    It is sent out as a L2 broadcast packet in whatever format is required by
    the local medium for broadcasts (i.e. Ethernet, ATM, Token Ring, etc)"

    Which is absolutely wonderful, because hell, all routers send out this packet. All routers need to send out this packet, so the question is still put forth, why does it seem to have an issue with this particular router? Like i said before, i have a version 2.2 WRT54G, and like i also said before you guys should post what version your router is as well.

    In relation to that guy with the issue with the DD-WRT firmware, your issue isn't quite the same as our issue, and i think i've read on many other forums that its with a bug in the codeing of that firmware. Your best bet would be to change back to Alchemy 1.0. Do be advised though that your router version is a V2.0 or less. Anyone with a router higher than this version shouldn't even try to use Alchemy 1.0 to fix your problems.

    And after all of that babbling on, i ask again; someone with more experience please post a reply to this issue.
     
  11. thidol

    thidol Network Guru Member

    Sigh, I must be the only one who wants to fix this problem. Thats okay then, ill take my efforts onto another forum. Thanks for at least helping me realise that I am wasteing my time, later.
     
  12. flopez

    flopez Network Guru Member

    i posted this response in another similiar topic, but i resolved this lag burst issue:

    i used to have these lag issues too with my WMP54G version 4. But since i switched from using the Windows Wireless Zero configuration to the linksys wireless network monitor, those lag spikes don't appear anymore. So, the bottom line: go to the linksys site and download the latest available driver and monitor for your adapter and use them. It worked for me. :)
     

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