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Teddy Bear v/s Toastman

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by AlterEgo, Nov 16, 2011.

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  1. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Networkin' Nut Member

    Hello,

    This is not to undermine the great efforts done by both the developers. I am running Tomato Firmware v1.28.8754 ND USB vpn3.6 on WRTSL54GS (with USB port).

    I just want to understand the main differences b/w Teddy and Toastman builds to give the latter one a try.

    One I just came to know is the built in availability of SNMP, which is missing in Teddy and supposedly is present in Toastman, however I do use the VPN in Teddy, which i dont know is present in toastman or not.

    Thanks for your inputs.
     
  2. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Everything that is in Teddy Bear's builds should be present not only in my builds but also the other modders (Victek, Shibby). There have been a great many updates since 8754!

    Go to the download site below, and from the ND folder you'll be able to find a K24 MIPSR1 build with VPN in it that will do what you require. In the folder you'll see a readme file, you'll be able to see the main differences from that. Obvious differences - Configurable QOS class names, comprehensive QOS example rules, Client Bandwidth monitor, Bandwidth Limiter, etc..
     
  3. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Networkin' Nut Member

    Thanks Toastman,

    Is there any place where I can see a demo UI (simulated web interface) version of your builds.
     
  4. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  5. Aquafire

    Aquafire LI Guru Member

    Hello,

    Have just tried toastman build "tomato-NDUSB-1.28.7628.1-Toastman-VPN" on my Linksys WRTSL54GS. I was previously running "tomato-NDUSB-1.28.8754-vpn3.6" which was a teddy bear mod and running very smooth. I had the following peculiarities configured in it according to my needs.

    - OpenVPN access from any remote client running OpenVPN with supplied keys and certificates
    - there is no built-in SNMPd , so I was running mini_snmpd from the startup script (copied in the JFFS folder). I am monitoring the WAN download speed on interface PPP0.
    - Since the modem is connected in bridge mode (Modem IP 192.168.1.1 and Router LAN 192.168.10.xxx)on the WAN Port of the router, I had to enter commands in the "Init" and "Firewall" scripts (in the administration section) , in order to reach the modem web interface.

    I used the firmware upgrade option to move to toastman and selected to reset the NVRAM values as well.

    Strangely enough I encountered the following problems immediately after booting in the toastman build. First i took screen shots of my previous firmware and then made exactly identical settings in toastman build firmware where applicable.

    - The LAN interface (br0) totally drops connections at random time intervals. This happens quite often when changing and saving any modified settings. Cannot ping the router from any LAN connected PC. Have to hard-reset power cycle the router several times to make any setting work.

    - Even when I enable the SNMP checkbox, any software on my PC cannot read any SNMP traps for monitoring the PPP0 interface. Have tried soft and hard reset after saving this settings, there is no SNMP data coming in from the router.

    - When I save the same "Init" and "Firewall" scripts in toastman build, I cannot access the modem web interface on the 192.168.1.1 address. I have tried various variations but nothing seems to work.

    - Again most annoying is the random LAN connection intrerface black out which make the whole setup highly unreliable.

    If toastman is reading then I would request please probe in the mentioned issues and post a working solution or guidance if possible.

    I am reverting back to my old teddy_bear 1.28.8754-vpn3.6 build for now.

    Thanks.
     
  6. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    if you want, you can try this one:
    http://tomato.groov.pl/K24/build5x-083V/tomato-ND-1.28.5x-083V-VPN.trx

    - vlan support
    - Route Modem IP available from gui (basic -> network). All you need to do is set you modem adsl ip address and done - have access to modem without any scripts.
    - snmpd included in tomato (with gui) - administration -> snmp
    - iptraffic (stats per users)

    Feedback welcome!
     
  7. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Curiously, several hundred people were using 7628.1 for many months, so I have no idea at all what may be wrong, unless it is something to do with your own particular setup. It was based on Teddy Bear's TomatoUSBmod.

    I had many routers in use with this version myself, never saw any dropout of the LAN connection. I still have around 400 WRT54GL's in use as AP's and of course they also need reliable LAN.

    However, there's a new build posted, 7629. It's similar to Shibby's in those respects.
     
  8. vincom

    vincom LI Guru Member

    shibby20 love your fork of tomato, but a question on setting ip of the adsl modem, would it be any ip or what range should it be in, my router is set 192.168.1.1, dhcp is betweem 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150
     
  9. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Networkin' Nut Member

    Hello toastman,

    If am running Tomato Firmware v1.28.8754 ND USB vpn3.6 (teddy_bear) at the moment, can I directly use the upgrade to load your firmware build 7620 "without" erasing the NVRAM, or would it have any undersirable effects. If i take a configuration backup with my earlier firmware , can I restore it to your firmware build and do the extra additional settings manually.

    Thanks.

    Hello Shibby,

    If am running Tomato Firmware v1.28.8754 ND USB vpn3.6 (teddy_bear) at the moment, can I directly use the upgrade to load your firmware build 083V-VPN "without" erasing the NVRAM, or would it have any undersirable effects. If i take a configuration backup with my earlier firmware , can I restore it to your firmware build and do the extra additional settings manually.

    Also the reply to vincom's query would be relevant for myself as well.
    Thanks.
     
  10. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    you have to erase nvram, no matter which one tomato`s mod (my or toastman) did you flash. It is to much changes between teddy`s and our (my and toastman) builds.
     
  11. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Networkin' Nut Member

    Thanks Shibby also answer my second query as follows :

    Cheers.
     
  12. fubdap

    fubdap Addicted to LI Member



    When you upgrade, you need to erase nvram and you need to configure manually. Do not restore from backup configuration.
     
  13. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Thread closed ....
     
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