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Tenda AC15 (AC1900) - Tomato firmware support

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by flying, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. ba_0001

    ba_0001 New Member Member

    where i can find toastman tenda ac15 files ?
  2. kenelim

    kenelim New Member Member

  3. ba_0001

    ba_0001 New Member Member

  4. ba_0001

    ba_0001 New Member Member

    I think wds fuction is not working.
    Can anyone check please ?
  5. Nixpower

    Nixpower New Member Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I was interested in installing Tomato for this router so that I can put it in AP mode, but it appears to be that the 5GHz band doesn't have very good range, which is a dealbreaker for me. Does anyone know if it is possible to put this router in AP mode without using Tomato?

  6. jimdomandroid

    jimdomandroid New Member Member

    Just got my router today and frustrated with the lack of thorough firmware esp with port forwarding. Can anyone post the link to the newest firmware? sorry found it - is "tomato-TendaAC15-9008.5Toastman-ARM-VPN-64K.trx" the most up to date? whats the default login info for wifi? root/admin Thanks
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2017
  7. cnboyli

    cnboyli New Member Member

    Hi, I just tried to enable and format jffs from Admin menu, but it keeps showing "stopped". Does this feature work on AC15?

    By the way, is there any updates on 5GHz signal strength issue?

  8. cpuwhiz22

    cpuwhiz22 New Member Member

    Has the community given up on the 5GHz?
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  9. My Name

    My Name Serious Server Member

    I am running Toastman 9008.8 on a couple of Tenda AC15 routers and both seem to work well other than the reported 5 Ghz signal strength problem.

    What I have noticed that seem odd on both routers is whenever I add Virtual Wireless Interface wl0.1 it is always assigned the same MAC Address as Wireless Interface eth2.

    Thinking it might have been something I had caused since I had inadvertent restored a configuration for one router onto the other router or maybe the other way around, who knows, I reset one of the routers by holding down the reset button while applying power. After about 30 seconds or so I was back at Tenda's CFE page or whatever that is called.

    I then installed the original firmware that @marto12 developed from @Shibby 132 as I recall. It does the same thing as show below.

    Note that eth2 / 5 Ghz and Wireless Interface wl0.1 which is 2 Ghz have the same MAC Address.

    Everything seems to work but is this normal?
  10. Fallkonaft

    Fallkonaft New Member Member

    i guess it is. that's why im downgrade to the Tenda's lates firmware. 5ghz signal is greats!
  11. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    @shibby20 This Tenda AC15 (AC1900) router is working quite well on your firmware with the modifications @marto12 made to make it compatible. Could you please check out his work and merge this into your codebase so that we will have official builds of Tomato by Shibby for this router? I would like to upgrade my router to the new v140. He supplied his diffs file in the Google Drive folder linked in the quote below. Thanks!

    WikiDevi link for quick reference if you need it: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Tenda_AC15
  12. nbaxi01

    nbaxi01 New Member Member

    With Tenda AC15 Firmware V15.03.1.17_EN the 5G appears to work well. It always shows full bars in the area around the router. With tomato-TendaAC15-138-VPN-64K.bin I get half of the full bars on iphone, computer, etc. I changed the transmit power to 0 which is the hardware default. Any ideas on how the Tenda firmware fixed the 5G problem or least gives the appearance of full bars near the router?
  13. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

    Last edited: Jul 8, 2017
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  14. muad_dib77

    muad_dib77 New Member Member

    I'll flash one now - let you know how I get in a few days..
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  15. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    Thanks for the notice. I flashed the latest version (not the linked beta), and so far so good! Didn't even clear NVRAM. Maybe I should!
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  16. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

  17. kille72

    kille72 LI Guru Member

    Sounds good! Give us a little review when you're ready;)
  18. kille72

    kille72 LI Guru Member

  19. JuiCe_pl

    JuiCe_pl New Member Member


    First things first: thank you for supporting AC15!

    quick and dirty test:

    Installed it yesterday, this went smooth although it complained that there are two conflicting Interfaces (br0 and br1 if I recall correctly), I deleted br1 in the Basic section and it acceptedt the changes. I did a comparison on two Computers - Macbook Air 2011 with line of sight to the router, ca. 5 m distance and iMac about 10 m away, no direct line of sight, Signal has to go through two walls. On the Air both 2.4 an 5 Signal was OK and negotiated Speeds (according to MacOs Taskbar) were similar to original FW. The iMac on the other could not connect to 5 at all and 2.4 Signal was weaker. I had to revert to original FW - I had crucial work that had to be done on the iMac.

    Coming from Tomato on WL-500gP V1 and RT-N10 I was so happy to see the beleved interface again... I am also keen on switchng from PPTP to OpenVpn for my VPN

    will Keep an eye on future builds and test further
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  20. My Name

    My Name Serious Server Member

    I have two of these Tenda AC15 Routers running Toastman firmware. Don't remember the version but it was his latest and they work remarkably well and are stable. Only issue is the 5 Ghz band range as is well know to all.

    Picked up another one to use as a spare and loaded kille72 2017.2 version using the instructions by Techie002 in post 2 of this thread. Went off without a hitch.

    Router has only been running about an hour but all seems well. I setup three subnets and two VLANs and have one vlan port tagged for two subnets (bro and br1) as on my other routers. They seem OK so far as I can tell.

    Wireless 5 Ghz is about the same and since I think the drivers are same as Toastman and Shibby the range seems to be limited as expected.

    I have noticed on both Shibby and Toastman versions that when multiple SSID and Subnets are assigned that one or more of the interfaces will end up with the same MAC address. This occurs in this firmware as well. I have to go into Advanced, MAC address and change one of the duplicates to a unique address. Really not a problem if you know about it. This is probably what happened to JuiCe_pl in the previous post.

    Overall looking good.
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  21. rocksoid99

    rocksoid99 New Member Member

    Hi all,

    Somewhat of a newbie here. Picked up the AC15 from microcenter. Just wanted to make sure I'm on the latest and greatest - I flashed Marto's bin file, then flashed the trx file from kille72's 2017.2.

    All seems to be working. I'm on the latest tomato version compatible for this router now right?
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  22. lukchiuwing

    lukchiuwing New Member Member

    Hi All,

    I am using AC18 which has the similar spec with AC15, but the AC18 cannot boot up with TOMATO (both AC15 and AC68U ver). Could someone port TOMATO for AC18 also? If it is possible, what kind of information should I provide? Thanks.
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  23. ba_0001

    ba_0001 New Member Member

    thanks for your support Kille72 please do add how to go back to factory firmware.
  24. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    Use the same method you used to load Tomato (through the router's CFE), and be sure to clear NVRAM while there too.
  25. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    I would like to thank you for supporting this router. Compared to the older modified Shibby firmware I had before, I have experienced the following differences with this firmware:
    • + TomatoAnon works.
    • + UI seems more snappy and responsive.
    • + Better support.
    • + Newer code.
    • – Can't access most of the memory file system via SAMBA anymore (the root$ share). Returns Access is Denied on all the subfolders. I used to add custom L7 filters via the etc folder. The flip side of this is that I learned how to write a script that generated those files automatically at startup.
    • – The UI is slightly less unified; specifically, the "Applying settings" indicator on some of the pages doesn't fit in with the overall theme of the firmware as well as before.
    These unique Tomato compatibility bugs remain:
    • 5 GHz signal strength is extremely weak (as in barely usable at all). It is approximately 25 dB weaker than expected. Despite this, the 5 GHz band does work well, but only at close range.
    • 2.4 GHz signal strength is slightly lower than with Tenda firmware. In both cases, I have tinkered extensively with the settings exposed by the GUI and have been unable to reproduce the transmit power achieved by the Tenda firmware—although I will mention that with Country set to #a and Transmit Power set to 400mW, this router has above average 2.4 GHz range. Just not quite as high as with the Tenda firmware.
    And these outstanding Tomato firmware flaws remain:
    • Apple devices don't stay associated for long when in sleep mode. Something is wrong with how Tomato implements APSD Mode that causes them to disconnect after a few minutes. Increasing Beacon Interval and/or DTIM Interval seems to make it worse. I like to use 1000 and 10. 500 and 1 seems to be a good compromise, below which it doesn't seem to get measurably better.
    • Devices that gradually move out of range (like someone leaving a house with their smartphone) stay associated forever, showing frozen signal strength (RSSI) and TX/RX speeds under Device List.
    • Every once in awhile, the router slips into "guest mode" where all wireless clients are isolated from each other. I have experienced this problem on pretty much every router I've used that runs firmware based on Tomato—including ASUS stock firmware. To restore normal connectivity, one can reboot the router. This is annoying, and usually manifests by Windows File and Printer Sharing breaking, which 99.9% of users probably would never notice. Trying to ping from one device to other devices on the network confirms that there is no cross-device connectivity, only connectivity to the Internet. Some routers seem more prone to this than others. The Linksys E1200 and E1500 routers almost never do it. The Tenda AC15 and ASUS RT-N12/D1 router rarely do it. The Tenda N80 router does it quite often, usually within the first couple days of uptime. And ASUS RT-AC88U is a basket case.

    Overall, even as it is, the Tenda AC15 is definitely, by far the best value for a 2.4 GHz router that one can buy. I recently tried upgrading to a ASUS RT-AC88U. In the 2.4 GHz band, the Tenda AC15 router is faster, has better range, and much better reliability/low packet loss. The Asus RT-AC88U is a complete disappointment. The only thing it did better was 5 GHz coverage.
    I wish this excellent router (and the AC18—another excellent router for that matter) would receive better support from Tomato, and that perhaps these bugs can be fixed. These two Tenda routers are outstanding pieces of hardware at a value price, but shipped with cheap software.
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
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  26. Hypocritus

    Hypocritus New Member Member

    Hi All

    I just wanted to report on my successful implementation of Tomato on my Tenda AC15.

    2.4GHz N is great, and very configurable/tweakable. 5Ghz is ok.

    Very nice design. And very functional. I had to enable CTF (Cut-Through Forwarding) to see Gigabit internet speeds. Before that, I was limited to about 260Mbps.

    Thank you, devs, for all of your contribution to these communities!!
  27. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

  28. paziulek

    paziulek New Member Member

    Hello all,

    Does anybody have a full dump of the SPI? I got an AC15 for a few bucks, but it is stuck with just the power light on - I am suspecting someone's flash attempt going south (?) None of the reset attempts was successful - no CFE available...
    Any ideas?
    Thanks in advance,

    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
  29. paziulek

    paziulek New Member Member

    not the flash issue... moved it to a functional unit, booted as it should.
    kinda waste of time, whateva, still fun : o ]
  30. cloneman

    cloneman Networkin' Nut Member

    Flashed kille72's build today without much issue (took a few attempts in CFE though, kept timing out).

    I thought I'd do a quick , non-scientific speed test while I was there, since this is my first experience with ARM, codel, and CTF. All QoS rules were deleted to remove any other processing bias. All tests with DHCP (non-pppoe). Measured in the router's bandwidth page & using Windows 10 SMB.

    QoS Enabled, 250mbit , 50% sirq usage
    QoS Disabled, 327 mbit , 50% sirq usage
    CTF Enabled , about 900 Mbit, 50% sirq usage
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  31. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

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  32. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    Running the latest beta (2017.3b9-pedro) now. Right away I noticed that the signal strength indicators have been scaled to read higher with the same RSSI, and there's a new option in the Virtual Wireless section. For the moment, it seems to be working well. Time will tell! Probably the most annoying issue I'm having with the router right now is that from time to time, it goes in to Guest mode (isolated wireless clients). When it does this, the throughput to the Internet also drops to a couple Mb/s when it should be 8 Mb/s. Rebooting the router immediately solves the problem. It crops up randomly and I'm not sure what's triggering it, although I know that pretty much every router I've used with Tomato has had the issue in some form and severity.

    Anyone notice that Shibby's sites are down? http://anon.groov.pl/ and http://tomato.groov.pl/ are both unreachable as I write this.
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  33. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

  34. Techie007

    Techie007 Reformed Router Member

    @pomidor1 @kille72 @pedro311 Just wanted to let you guys know that the 2.4 GHz WiFi has been extremely stable on 2017.3b9-pedro. iPhones/iPads stay associated when sleeping, other devices don't randomly drop and reconnect from time to time (instantly when awake, minutes/hours later if sleeping), and the router very accurately tracks associated/disassociated devices as they move in and out of range. Very pleased with these developments! Now this router's WiFi is more solid (and strong) than pretty much anything else on the market, and combined with very powerful software with a great GUI at that. I wish we could some of your bugfixes over on the MIPS builds for devices like the Linksys E1500!

    I'm still keeping a wary eye out for the longtime guest/isolation bug that randomly pops up from time to time on pretty much any device running Tomato. I believe I've had it happen once on the AC15 since upgrading to 2017.3b9-pedro, but it hasn't happened since.

    P. S. Upgrading to 2017.3b13-kille72 now... :)
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  35. pomidor1

    pomidor1 Serious Server Member

    I'm just a loyal fan @kille72, @pedro311, @M_ars @marto12,@Toastman. Because of its heavy and free work, this hardware strong router can delight many users with its alternative software. Thank you once again

    I will take Tenda AC18, maybe I would buy it, if someone made port tomato on it, please ;-)
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