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Thibor to Tomato.....

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by spepi, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. spepi

    spepi Network Guru Member

    I am noticing alot of people are flashing to Tomato from Thibor. Are there any special reasons?

    I tried Tomato a while back on my WRT54G V2 and it never saved settings. The browser always took a dump.

    How is this with IE7?
  2. digitalgeek

    digitalgeek Network Guru Member

    Tomato solved all my Thibor issues... and Thibor was good for me... Tomato is better.
  3. NateHoy

    NateHoy Network Guru Member

    At first, curiosity. I'm staying with it due to speed. Thibor is great, but Tomato does my day-to-day routing a LOT faster. It has all the features I need, and the QoS graphs are really nice.
  4. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    Delicious. Get Some !

    It has FLAVOR and TASTE. Fresh, New, Functional Commercial grade performance firmware written by somebody with an I.Q. Tomato has really made all other firmwares pale themselves into a category of stale and tepid, tired old dis-functional and un-supported buggy crap. Have a bite. Be careful. It is very addictive !! Jon, the author is very responsive to new requests, is a highly skilled software author, and very interested in making the best ever firmware even better ! Only nice ripe Tomato firmware can be so DELICIOUS ! No need for any more dried out and shriveled up HyperDDxEwrtSveaDie firmware for me !!
  5. digitalgeek

    digitalgeek Network Guru Member

    GeeTek... I think you have sucessfully summed up eveybodies Tomato experience. I started out with Thibor, and I was very happy. When I saw a thread mentioning Tomato, I immediately starting reading the threads and at that time were at version .05 or .06... I thought this is to good to be true, a firmware that could be more stable than Thibor. So I tried at at first try I was hooked.
    I didn't believe the no reboot stories... I have not reset my modem once since I started using Tomato (a regurlar activity with Thibor) and I only reboot the router when I upadate the firmware. A change in one protocol or feature does not reboot the router and bring down the network... Tomato kills the apropriate process and restarts it - clean and fast... like everything else in the firmware.
    The only the everybody in this forum will tell is to "take a bite of Tomato"... flash it to your router and try it out. It's easy to go back if your not satisfied... but we all know you won't, everybody who tries loves tomato and won't live with out it.

    Uptime: 3 days, 01:06:48 {since my last upgrade)
    CPU Load (1 / 5 / 15 mins): 0.00 / 0.01 / 0.00 ( These numbers rarely inclrease)
    Total / Free Memory 14.18mb / 996.00 kb (6.86%)
    (I have some active BT downloads, with no interruptions in surfing))
  6. spepi

    spepi Network Guru Member

    Well...I guess that sums it up....I love tomatos, so why not have one handle my day to day routing. I am a vonage customer, so I really want to see the QOS in action. Thibor has been the most stable of them out there, but I do want more flavor. Now all I have to do is get the kids of WOW and take the PC over thats hard wired to my router....I'll be back with my upgrade status and any other questions I may have
  7. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    WOW does not seem to consume very much BW at all. With 25 or 30 connections on World of Warcraft, the total up speed was only a few K (Naturally, with no control). Tomato will allow you to limit the upload and the download speed of WOW application connections to any value between 1 and 100 % of your total bandwidth.
  8. luckman212

    luckman212 LI Guru Member

    mmmmm Tomato is soooo tasty!! :tongue:
  9. myersw

    myersw Network Guru Member

    I'm with Digitalgeek. I used Thibor 15c before trying Tomato. Some times my DSL provider, SBC, does some maintenance early Sunday mornings. This would normally cause me to have to cycle both my modem and router to get a connection back when using Thibor. Seemed to have the same problem with DD-WRT before Thibor. With Tomato things just reconnect.
    Love it!!
    You who have not contributed yet, please do, so that Jon will get something besides just thanks. Show him how much you like his hard work.
  10. Jonny_doe

    Jonny_doe Network Guru Member

    I'm about to try this , i've been using Thibor 15c for ages , but as Thibor no long uses a WRT54GS , I think the firmware will now stop , which is a shame but i don't blame him , we all move on..
  11. digitalgeek

    digitalgeek Network Guru Member

    Not a problem to switch... clear settings, flash from thibor's upgrade page and when tomato comes backup, clear settings again then config.

    Have fun setting up your new router! Tomato is more stable than Thibor (and Thibor is more stable...
  12. Jonny_doe

    Jonny_doe Network Guru Member

    Now running tomato , IT's alittle tricky to set up at first , but once you've looks about abit, it's ok ...
    All in all , at the moment it seems good ;)
    I'm glad to see that the WRT54GS hasn't been forgotten about ..
  13. grcore

    grcore Network Guru Member

    There should be a version coming in the future for the G/GS. Once the minor bugs are worked out of the SL version it will be easy enough to port to the G/GL/GS. It takes time, a lot longer than many think. I have been assisting Thibor, but lately have had some other problems that have consumed my time (car, work, bleah).

    I concur that Tomato is a fine piece of work, although I have not used it personally (i have the SL). I have seen the code and he definatley knows his stuff, he's pretty amazing. I hope there is a version for the SL somewhere down the road, that will take a lot of work though...

  14. bigclaw

    bigclaw Network Guru Member

    I have one SL and one GL. Because of the former, I installed Thibor on both routers. What I could do, I suppose, is to install Tomato on the GL and try it out. But since the SL is my primary router, and the GL is only serving as a wireless bridge to my XBOX 360, I see no reason to switch to Tomato for now. If it ain't broken, ya know.

    Thibor has been plenty stable for me so far, so I'm not sure what I'm missing.
  15. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Been using Tomato since the firmware first started ... prior to that was using Tofu HyperWRT until he stopped development, then went to Thibor's HyperWRT version when he ported some of Tofu's stuff. Used this without issue until I heard Jon (Tofu) was coming out with a new firmware called Tomato. After loading Tomato found it to be rock solid & extremely stable with the features and speed I was looking for ... only downtime was to upgrade firmware. I hope the code footprint remains "light" to maintain it's current characteristics. :)

  16. andersonbc

    andersonbc LI Guru Member

    I've tried everything and I think Tomato is incredible ... the speed and stability are what got me hooked.
  17. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Thibor uses the WRT54GS v3 4.71.1 Codebase for the basis of his firmware... Any idea what code-base, if any, Tomato uses? I'm just curious...
  18. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    Jon (Tofu) mentioned it's mostly a re-write of the WRT54GL firmware:


    When Jon was on the HyperWRT project he worked on his own version named Tofu HyperWRT which he offered for the WRT54G/GL routers. This was also based on the GL Linksys firmware.

  19. red_tea

    red_tea Network Guru Member

    I plan to upgrade from Thibor to Tomato. Could you tell me how to "clear settings" ? Does it mean to use a pen to stick at the small hole on the back of my WRT54GS router for more than 15 seconds?

    Where can I find the detailed install instruction ?

    Thanks very much !
  20. der_Kief

    der_Kief Super Moderator Staff Member Member


    before upgrading reset thibor to default settings within the GUI (or reset pin with paper clip). After upgrading to tomato either go to administration->configuration-> restore default configuration and select "erase all data in NVRAM memory (thorough)" or press the reset pin (with a paper clip for example) for 30 sec. Than reconfigure. Thats all

  21. horatiub

    horatiub Network Guru Member

    ok, I'm still confused about how to upgrade from Thibor to Tomato. Can somebody help me?
  22. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    I have never used Thibor, but it must have a place in the menu for firmware upgrade. Use the WRT54G bin file from PolarCloud website.
  23. tomatoes123!

    tomatoes123! LI Guru Member

    I've upgraded my WRT54GL from Thibor 15C to Tomato 1.04 without any problem

    What I did:

    1. Backup Thibor configuration data - just in case I wanna go back to Thibor
    2. Reset/clear NVRAM - with the little switch in the back
    3. Upgraded the firmware - via browser, non-wireless connection
    4. Patiently wait for the success message
    5. Reset/clear NVRAM again - I'm cautious
    6. Configure the router
    7. Backup Tomato configuration data

    for more info see here http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware#Before_the_Upgrade


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