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Tomato 1.20-ND not compatible with Buff WHR-125G?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by gstar2, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. gstar2

    gstar2 Addicted to LI Member

    I know its a linksys forum but i know you do have alot of buffalo useres here :)

    I simply cannot get the wireless to work with any version of the tomato firmware.

    I can see the network, but i just cant connect.
    Even if i remove any security i still cant connect.

    I have no problem whatsoever with wireless and DD-wrt.

    But i would very much like to have tomato :)

    My wireless card as a intel 2200BG with newest software.
    My router is a buffalo whr-125g
  2. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    The 2200BG Intel wireless cards don't seem to get on well with the new Broadcom wireless drivers used in the ND builds. They don't use the latest version as in DD WRT so maybe it's just a question of updating them.
  3. gstar2

    gstar2 Addicted to LI Member

    That might be the case.

    Do you think a update will happen anytime soon?
  4. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    There's a Victek mod with newer broadcom drivers that will be out soon. There is a link on his web site but it's been taken down for further testing but should be back up soon.
  5. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member


    Victek has just released his 1.20.8500 Tomato mod with the latest Broadcom drivers, same version used in DD WRT, give them a try an tell us how they get on with the Intel 2200BG wireless card.

  6. siaokia_leong

    siaokia_leong Addicted to LI Member

    nope...i got a laptop compaq nc6230 with intel 2200BG wifi card..and yet cant connect to my linksys54GL with tomato mod 1.20.8500 -.-
  7. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    It seems Victek was not able to use the same Broadcom driver as DD WRT in Tomato due to kernel incompatibilities but I think he's still investigating.

    Have you tried this Link maybe it could help.
  8. siaokia_leong

    siaokia_leong Addicted to LI Member

    already tried..but seem like it doesn't help :p thx for d help anyway~~
  9. guillaumy

    guillaumy LI Guru Member

    You know, there are a number of people who have reported problems with 2200BG, but personally I have not seen it with the networks I administer (even with 2200BG and 2915ABG users).

    We need to try and nail this problem.

    Could I suggest:

    1. (If you have not done so) you could upgrade to the latest driver from Intel. I do not suggest that you install the Intel ProSet utility.

    2. Try to connect using another laptop with the 2200BG wireless chipset?

    If you do this it could shed more light on the problem.
  10. siaokia_leong

    siaokia_leong Addicted to LI Member

    i've done with step 1..but unfortunately i dun hav another laptop that come with 2200BG wireless chipset...btw..i juz flash from Version 1.20.8500 (ND wireless driver) back to Version 1.20.8000 (stock wireless driver)..and surprisingly..my compaq laptop with 2200BG chipset is able to connect to my router (WRT54GL) and work perfectly -.- so my problems have solved..

    but the ques is why issit with ND version my laptop cant connect but then it is able to work on non ND version (stock driver)...somethg weird~~
  11. gstar2

    gstar2 Addicted to LI Member

    It seems siaokia_leong are having the same problems with his/hers intel 2200BG card.

    I have already tried the newest version of the intel drivers. It does'nt seem to help.
    I don't have two laptops so that is out of the question at the moment.

    I don't think i should be installing the non ND version on my Buffalo as i think it could brick my router. But i am not sure of this.

    But i think we may have nailes down the problem. Is is the ND drivers that does not work with the Intel 2200BG wifi card.

    May i ask what the difference between the ND and non-ND drivers is?
    On the original http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato homepage it says i should use the ND version on my Buffalo whr-125G device.
    What is the reason for this?
  12. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    The reason you need the ND version on your WHR-125G is that it has a newer Broadcom wireless chip which need updated Broadcom drivers that are used in these ND/NewD versions may it be Tomato or DD WRT.

    I'm sure between all of us we will be able to find a solution to this strange 2200BG behaviour.
  13. BHTeam

    BHTeam LI Guru Member

    so after a good night sleep here is what i found.
    Dell Latitude 120L // Intel PROWireless 2200BG
    MacBook Pro // Airport Extreme (802.11n)
    Buffalo HP 54G

    Tomato Mod Version 1.20.8500 (ND wireless driver)
    Tomato Mod Version 1.20.8500 (stock wireless driver)

    Original Tomato:


    1. MacBook Pro // Airport Extreme (802.11n) works with every driver and every version without a problem./
    2. Dell Latitude 120L // Intel PROWireless 2200BG works ONLY with OLD driver versions without ANY problems./
    3. Updating the Intel PROWireless 2200BG Driver does NOT fix incompatibility issues./
  14. a9988cd

    a9988cd LI Guru Member

    @ gstar2

    do you try change the other channel ?
  15. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    It seems that the only option left is to use a different wireless card in our laptops if we want to use the ND versions. These ND drivers give better coverage and performance than the older ones.

    People on other forums have tried new and old Intel drivers, different channels, encripted signal and without. So there is not much left to try.
  16. gstar2

    gstar2 Addicted to LI Member

    I am very unlucky with my selection of router i see:thumbdown:

    So we can pretty much nail it down to this:
    Buffalo WHR-125G(or any other ND only router) + Tomato (any ND version) + Intel Pro 2200BG chipset is a no-go

    Buffalo WHR-125G + DD-WRT(v24) + Intel Pro 2200BG works flawless

    So what is it in the core of the ND version that is so much different from the core in the non-ND or DD-WRT(v24) version? Since the non-Nd version do support the intel 2200BG chipset?
    I mean even though the broadcom drivers are updated in the ND version, that doesn't mean that is should support less wifi chipsets? Or is there something im missing here?
    And i also guess that the DD-WRT have the most up-to-date broadcom drivers. So how come i don't have any problems with that firmware?
  17. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    FYI, looking at my latest Tomato and DD-WRT builds, the Tomato "new driver" is version and the DD-WRT "new driver" is I'm sure there are dependancies involved in updating drives and good reason for Tomato having the version it does, but it's over my head.
  18. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    I said wrongly before that in Victek's ND mod he used the same Broadcom drivers as in DD WRT as he was not able to due to Tomato's kernel/core limitations.
    The drivers used in DD WRT are v. and Victek's mod ND are v. So maybe it's a Broadcom driver issue I don't know. I think Victek is still on the issue so maybe he'll find some other solution for us.

    Edit: TexasFlood beat me to it.
  19. gstar2

    gstar2 Addicted to LI Member

    Okay thanks for your help.

    Yes it may be a broadcom issue indeed.

    Oh man i really hope to have tomato working on my router one day with my 2200BG chipset :)
  20. spliff

    spliff LI Guru Member

    I've had problems with my Intel 2965AG as well. I am running Tomato 1.19 on my Asus WL-520GU. Throughput is choppy and one I disconnect I can't reconnect.
  21. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    Until somebody fines a way to use more compatible Broadcom drivers in Tomato ND the only solution is to use a different wireless card in our laptops. You can pick them up on ebay for cheap, Intel, Broadcom, Atheros I don't think it really matters as long as there are drivers for your OS.
  22. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

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