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Tomato for ARM routers

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by kthaddock, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

    All software seems to work pretty well now, (version 1.27 and foreward). Use and report any observed Buggs
     
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  2. lilstone87

    lilstone87 Serious Server Member

    Yeah the R7000 isn't actively being worked on that I am aware of, but like shibby has mention. Once support for ARM is there, it shouldn't be to long before support for it is here. I am one of the one's who will be waiting on a tomato build for the R7000. It is indeed nice to know we are getting close now :).
     
  3. fubdap

    fubdap Addicted to LI Member

    @kthaddock - Not sure if you need the RAF in the title. RAF technically refers to Victek builds.
     
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  4. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

    I can change was just a start title, lets see what shibby wants.
    Maby this :
    Tomato Shibby - ARM router testing
     
  5. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    If we are talking here aboult my builds then "Tomato Shibby - ARM router testing" will be good. RAF refers to Victek builds.

    If we are talking here aboult all Tomato ARM builds then just "Tomato for ARM routers" will be good.
     
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  6. darkknight93

    darkknight93 Networkin' Nut Member

    ARM ? ARM?? TIME for COOKIES!

    chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg
     
  7. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

  8. lilstone87

    lilstone87 Serious Server Member

    Victek,

    Is it you, or toastman that has a R7000? I can't remember who said they will be working with it.
     
  9. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Toastman, but doesn't matter ... when ARM will be operational in tomato other routers can be added too if the developer have the unit and knows 'how-to'

    @kthaddock as shibby suggest and since it's a team project where everybody is welcome to help.... title can be:

    @shibby20 .If we are talking here aboult all Tomato ARM builds then just "Tomato for ARM routers" will be good.
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2014
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  10. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    I agree with Vic. "Tomato for ARM routers" will be the best :)

    Ok well. Tomato-ARM works. The biggest problem with Wireless encryption was fixed (WPA2 AES on screen with connected 3 devices via wireless, mobile phone and laptop to 2.4GHz radio and netbook to 5GHz radio)

    Przechwytywanie.PNG

    Now i want to make some test of performance and stability on my own AC68U. After week od two i will choicefew users from forum to make closed beta tests. And then i will publish firmware to open beta tests.

    Best Regards.
     
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  11. kIssGlaY

    kIssGlaY Serious Server Member

    Great.
    Looking forward to testing it.
     
  12. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

    As you want, "Tomato for ARM routers"
     
  13. teh_g

    teh_g Networkin' Nut Member

    Patience will be so hard...
     
  14. MaX PL

    MaX PL Networkin' Nut Member

    I'm glad things are progressing on the ARM front.

    Tomato Shibby was the best firmware I used on my E3000 and I hope once finalized, it'll be the best firmware for my R7000 as well.
     
  15. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    propably i will have R7000 or AC56U (or both) for few days. We will see ;)
     
  16. leandroong

    leandroong Addicted to LI Member

    Shibby, will you also include extra kernels like in MIPS1_2?
     
  17. leandroong

    leandroong Addicted to LI Member

    It would be nice if kernel for usb audio and camera included in the FW, i think ....
     
  18. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    we will see. TEW-812DRU has broadcom ARM CPU but only 8MB flash ... well i can`t put all modules into image.
     
  19. mito

    mito LI Guru Member

    Shibby & Vic, again nice update, good to know where you are standing on ARM.:)
     
  20. zorkmta

    zorkmta LI Guru Member

    Thinking to buy New router compatible will tomato. Have a E4200 and want to upgrade.... Which is the best choice with arm router?

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  21. leandroong

    leandroong Addicted to LI Member

    latest asus, if I were you. Perhaps RT-AC68U or better
     
  22. zorkmta

    zorkmta LI Guru Member

    Are there any better than Ac68u and compatible with tomato?



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  23. Kisch

    Kisch Addicted to LI Member

    Maybe Netgear R7000. It has Broadcom ARM cpu, so it is really big chance for Tomato on it. It has faster cpu than Asus AC68 (2x1Ghz vs 2x0,8Ghz)
     
  24. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    R7000 use 4709 CPU, from technical point of view it's top one range router until today...from user usage point of view, RT-AC56U is perfectly the best router for me for three main reasons:
    - I don't have wireless adapter able to sync 1900Mbps and I'm not using wireless often.
    - USB3.0 performs outstanding transfer speeds similar as R7000 or AC-68U.
    - It's cheaper than last two models (-40%).
     
  25. Kisch

    Kisch Addicted to LI Member

    Vic, AC56U has famous price/performance rating. Maybe internal antennas could be a problem for heavy wifi users. But price is very nice. Agree.
     
  26. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    I think it should be added by any extra package... not in core build... I think 99% of users dont need it
     
  27. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    For routers with enough Flash RAM it's not a problem to be added as a module, but others are sold with only 8MB flash (senseless). Also we have to determine if you need an open box for modding or one router... then definitively these modules don't belong to the standard....;)
     
  28. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    Agree. There should be working features which are useful - working bw limiter, qos, captive portal, web server, ipv6, dualwan, etc. Anyway I am looking for new build
     
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  29. crayonshin

    crayonshin Reformed Router Member

    Hi Shibby, Vic, and everybody else helping with Tomato development. Thank you all so much for your hard work in making our routers far more powerful and reliable than they come out of the box!

    I've been following the developments with Tomato on ARM and was wondering if any active developers have a Cisco Linksys EA6700. I picked one up on sale a few months ago and was hoping that since the EA6700 is so similar to the Asus RT-AC68U (only the 2.4 radio is different I think), it would be supported eventually. I'd also be happy to do any beta testing for this model as well.

    Anyway, I have an old E3000 with Shibby's Tomato on it so I'm happy to wait patiently even though I've never rebooted it yet have to reboot the EA6700 with stock firmware about once a week. Thanks again guys!
     
  30. ShinichiYao

    ShinichiYao Reformed Router Member

    Good news! AC68U will be my next router I think~
     
  31. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    What can we end users of the R7000 do to help with its development? Donate? Sacrifice a virgin? What can we do?
     
  32. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    patience ... ;) .. I think shibby will receive one unit for test.... I don't have this model.
     
  33. zorkmta

    zorkmta LI Guru Member

    I´m thinking to buy a RT-AC56U, as i know have a previor beta testing, i would like to know how is going with wifi stability and range, because it can be a lot of money compare to AC-68U, only difference with wifi antennas.

    Regards
     
  34. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    I get same coverage as with RT-N16 and E4200 with higher connection speed for 2.4GHz and 5GHz (E4200). In fact and due to regulatory power limitations you can't expect better coverage but you get better speed transfers (also depending of your PC wireless adapter).
     
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  35. meazz1

    meazz1 Addicted to LI Member

    I am currently using Asus RT-N16 and I was thinking of getting a new router with tomato support. So, naturally came here to see which are the hot routers for tomato candidate.
    Well, I will wait until the ARM tomato firmware comes out.

    Keep up the good work folks.
     
  36. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    That's why I'm asking. Is there a specific "Contribute to ARM development" fund? Some thing we end users can do?

    I can't afford to buy another R7000 and send it to anyone. But I can do something. Would like to help. I'm not being inpatient.
     
  37. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    At this point a donation to Victek or Shibby is a donation to Tomato for ARM.
     
  38. EnSabaNur

    EnSabaNur Reformed Router Member

    I just received an RT-AC68R in preparation for Shibby's release. Should I keep this or get the RT-AC68U? I know it's the same physically but just want to confirm any future public Tomato releases would support both equally. Funny thing is I ordered the RT-AC68U on Amazon but what was delivered was the RT-AC68R. If it's not worth complaining about I'll just keep it.
     
  39. teh_g

    teh_g Networkin' Nut Member

    They are the same physical hardware as far as I know beyond being colored differently.
     
  40. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    correct, same as RT-AC56U and RT-AC68U are same hardware except 3x3 mimo for RT-AC68U and 2x2 mimo for RT-AC56U. If you don't have capable wireless adapter IMHO it makes no sense to pay 50% more for RT-AC68 ....;)
     
  41. MaX PL

    MaX PL Networkin' Nut Member

    R just stands for Retail. the router is the same as the U otherwise.
     
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  42. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    Pretty nice info. One user flash my tomato-ARM to Netgear 6300v2 and
    :)
     
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  43. mito

    mito LI Guru Member

    hey shibby congrats! and great news for all of us, how is it running, is he at the forum? pls let us know the link.
     
  44. kIssGlaY

    kIssGlaY Serious Server Member

  45. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

  46. mito

    mito LI Guru Member

    kissGlay & shibby, thanx!
     
  47. James Good

    James Good Reformed Router Member

    Just bought an AC68U, so I'm really looking forward to this. Thank you to all involved, especially Shibby.
     
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  48. boghea

    boghea Reformed Router Member

    Hi,
    Any news on tomatousb for ARM routers especially for Netgear R7000?
     
  49. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    i don`t have R7000 yet :/
     
  50. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    I did my part. If folks who want the Tomato variant for ARM's like the R7000 would each contribute a little then Shibby could buy one.....
     
  51. boghea

    boghea Reformed Router Member

    Hi Shibby,
    To be honest I can't wait for your tomatousb version for R7000 (I think tomatousb along with R7000 hardware will set new standards); I really admire your work and I have used it for over a year (I'm a big fan). My day got a little grimmer when I read your last message (you not having a R7000) :(.

    Many thanks again for your hard work and looking forward to hear good news about tomatousb arm project.
     
  52. teh_g

    teh_g Networkin' Nut Member

    Still super pumped for Tomato on my RT-AC68U!
     
  53. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

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  54. MaX PL

    MaX PL Networkin' Nut Member

    i'm almost tempted to sell me R7000 and get the 68u just to get tomato; i've already had the 68u and returned it for the R7000.

    my R7000 on stock firmware can't even run the 5ghz band without having speeds drop to a tenth of what they should be, and i'm not going to dd-wrt as that shit is plagued with problems despite what its fanboys will admit.

    shibby, where in poland are you?
     
  55. desiromeo

    desiromeo Networkin' Nut Member

    Installing now!

    Well looks like my router bricked by installing shibby build... Installed using the restore utility and once it said successfully uploaded the router won't boot. The power and Lan port led come on but no wifi led. Also am unable to get the router into rescue mode now for some reason... Keep trying to press reset button on boot and upload the Asus firmware again.. But not working

    Edit - does tomato use a different button to put the router into rescue mode?

    edit - somehow managed to flash back to asus merlin firmware. Will stick to it for a while.
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
  56. kIssGlaY

    kIssGlaY Serious Server Member

    Those who reboot your router frequently should be caution with this build, because every time rebooting, NVRAM got written and free space of NVRAM will decrease slightly and finally exhausted(Because a token called "acs_ifnames" got appended on every reboot). Not to be paranoid, but NVRAM has limited life span, so this is FYI.
     
  57. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    near Wroclaw city.
     
  58. ryu2964

    ryu2964 Network Newbie Member

    hi shibby, I tried your beta release and I can use pppoe surf internet correctly. but once I connect 5G wifi with my Galaxy S4, router down and no response at all even I restart the router. I must use WPS button restore default. but once 5g wifi connected. it loops again. is that bug or I did something wrong?
     
  59. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    i had no this issue. I`m using both radios from 3 weeks:
    2,4G - bluray player, laptop HP, mobile phone
    5G - laptop HP with intel 6200 and Asus EEE with intel 5100

    No problems with connection.
     
  60. kIssGlaY

    kIssGlaY Serious Server Member

    Did you turn on the CTF? If so, turn it off.(Default is off). Sounds somewhat not related to this issue, but you could give a try.
     
  61. Netwet

    Netwet Reformed Router Member

    I guess Tomato is using the same wireless driver asus is using and for asus this is a known issue:

    http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?s=70231fa46ce9d4735efdd75346560cf0&t=15628&page=59

    Only DD-WRT has builds without this issue. Asus obviously can't fix it and waits until broadcom fixes it, this has been an annoying bug for some time.

    @MaX PL, whatever shit shit plagues DD-WRT, arm on DD-WRT currently points the way. Probably because there is one dev (kong) now that exclusively works on the arm builds and he really takes care of things.
     
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  62. ryu2964

    ryu2964 Network Newbie Member

    now is okay... seems like the problems is I can't imagine how slow the router boot up at tomato and I thought it is down... so, people had problem like me , just be patient...

    last but not least, Does tomato support beamforming? how to configure it?
     
  63. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Beamforming it's written in the wireless firmware, there is one token in the code named Turbo_QAM, it's active by default. Configuration: In N band you need to negotiate with your wireless card since there is no standard respected by the manufacturers, so there is some doubts it might work. In AC band it's enabled, do nothing. Google the term, there are interesting test and explanations about.
     
  64. The Doctor

    The Doctor LI Guru Member

    Victek, does (or will) your firmware for the RT-AC68U support virtual wireless?
     
  65. tbjerret

    tbjerret Network Guru Member

    Shibby, I cant access the router with your beta firmware. Just get this:

    Settings have been updated. Web page will now refresh.
    Changes have been made to the IP address or port number. You will now be disconnected from RT-AC68U.
    To access the settings of RT-AC68U, reconnect to the wireless network and use the updated IP address and port number.

    Wireless or not, this is what I get on 192.168.1.1.
     
  66. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Not now, as most of you know already (read smallnetbuilder forums) latest builds from Asus for RT-AC68 arose some problems with reboot-disconnections, Tomato ARM version use the source code posted by Asus, then and unfortunately we clone all these problems in Tomato ARM version. I'm reverting to previous asus sdk trying to solve it. It's a pity moment to release Tomato ARM with problems embedded in the sources, it's not an excuse, asus firmware is also buggy now.

    You should get patience.. wait for a few seconds and refresh IP in your PC. Also clear cookies in your browser.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2014
  67. tbjerret

    tbjerret Network Guru Member

    Thank you Victek. I need more than patience - different PC and different browser do not help - and when I restore back to Merlins build I immediately get access. I used 192.168.0.1 before but reset to factory defaults many times. Also did a 30-30-30 reset.
     
  68. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Ok, let's fix some topics about Tomato ARM firmware, I know some of you use dd-wrt and you're familiar with some dd-wrt 'shortcuts'. The recent routers are more sophisticate than previous models, now we have dual boot nvram areas and some other new features, first, the 30-30-30 does nothing in Tomato ARM. The configuration for 30-30-30 is not implemented in tomato ARM cause the buttons gpio/irq are not the same as dd-wrt. The method to erase/restore nvram in tomato works when you press WPS button in ASUS routers while Power ON.

    About your issue, and sorry if you posted but I'll not read all post prior to answer you, what model do you own?. Do you restore to factory settings the router before ported to tomato? Did you tried my version?

    Hope it helps to pace the basic issues I'm reading, Thanks. And.. remember, it's still a beta full of holes as Gruyere cheese....
     
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  69. godraab

    godraab Networkin' Nut Member

    Could the rp-ppoe version "bug" be back on the ARM-release, as I once again have disconnects from my ISP?
    My N66U, have been rock-solid after I got the version with the older rp-ppoe version.
    But now that i switched to the AC68U, the disconnects are back.
     
  70. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    It's not a pppoe problem, versions are same for mips and arm, is asus sources bug....reverting to old sdk. Same problem happen to users using latest ASUS firmware version.
     
  71. tbjerret

    tbjerret Network Guru Member

    Thank you Victek. I appreciate your help. Its an AC-68U. I can restore and access the original firmware, Merlins build and the relevant dd-wrt build. But I cant access your build or shibbys - I get page not avaiable. The network says the remote device will not accept connection. And I restore to factory settings whenever possible.
     
  72. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Thanks, we'll check versions compatibility, afaik there are two versions for RT-AC68U in the market with different CFE and since tomato verifies some parameter in the router CFE to determine the correct version it may cause some incompatibilities. Would you be so keen to send your router CFE (the only sensible information inside is the MAC address) to determine the reason for the issue you mention? you can send via e.mail to shibby or me (using the contact link in the website).

    Thanks
     
  73. tbjerret

    tbjerret Network Guru Member

    Thank you, I sent you my CFE. I don't quite see how to send it to shibby.
     
  74. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Don't care, I'm doing model ID and all code is shared... thanks!

    Edit: As I commented in PM I don't see any major differences in your router CFE, nevertheless we changed the ID algo to detect router model. We'll see how it works now.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2014
  75. godraab

    godraab Networkin' Nut Member

    Asus 4887 is released for RT-AC68U
    Do you find anything here in regards to reboots/discoonects problem is fixed.

    ASUS RT-AC68U Beta Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.4887
    Security related issues:
    1. Fixed parameters buffer overflow vulnerability
    2. Fixed XSS(Cross Site Scripting) vulnerability
    3. Fixed CSRF(Cross Site Request Forgery) vulnerability
    4. Added auto logout function. The timeout time can be configured in - Administration--> System
    5. Included patches related to network map. Thanks for Merlin's contribution.

    Others:
    1. Enhanced the connection speed for Centrino 6300.
    2. Modified the 3G/LTE dongle setting process in quick internet setup wizard.
    3. Fixed some issues related to Samba.
    4. Fixed the Cloud sync problem
    5. Fixed Parental control check box UI issues.
    6. Modified the FTP/ Samba permission setting UI
    7. Modified media server setting UI
    8. Dual wan fail over now support fail back
     
  76. RMerlin

    RMerlin Network Guru Member

    Asus confirmed to me that the reboots were fixed in this new beta release. Broadcom-provided patch has been applied.
     
  77. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Good news, let's wait the source code..
     
  78. kIssGlaY

    kIssGlaY Serious Server Member

    ASUS custom service also told me their tech team would fix "PPPoE + V6in4 tunnel + CFE router reboot endlessly" problem in this release, but flashed it, tested and the result is immediately rebooting and endlessly.
     
  79. lancethepants

    lancethepants Network Guru Member

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    lancethepants Network Guru Member

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    noyp Network Guru Member

  82. gazsiazasz

    gazsiazasz Addicted to LI Member

    What about Linksys routers? :)
     
  83. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

    @shibby20
    RT-AC56 and RT-AC68 have same checksum on download server.

    tomato-RT-AC68U_RT-ARM--116.T3-AIO-64K.trx
    F2D1CDD0638814F8F81C0C53186AC5D2

    tomato-RT-AC56U_RT-ARM--116.T3-AIO-64K.trx
    F2D1CDD0638814F8F81C0C53186AC5D2
     
  84. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    In fact it's the same firmware for both ....
     
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  85. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    With the Asus model firmware being available does this mean a Netgear R7000 version is on deck?
     
  86. mito

    mito LI Guru Member

    Yeap. almost.
     
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  87. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    Have my new R7000 now... and i dont like the GUI :D
    Crossing fingers to have soon a Beta Tomato :D
     
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  88. JameZUK

    JameZUK Reformed Router Member

    Same, my R7000 is currently sitting in its box doing very little. I refuse to even use it without Tomato! ;-)
     
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  89. mito

    mito LI Guru Member

    It would be good if you start using your R7000 so you can keep going familiar with it, and then when ARM Tomato is released you'll be at the safe side flashing it;)
     
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  90. lancethepants

    lancethepants Network Guru Member

    I'm holding out to buy arm til the R7000 gets supported. I want the greater cpu power, especially for compiling once I do a proper port of tomatoware for it.
     
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  91. Aaron

    Aaron Networkin' Nut Member

    I too also got an R7000. Currently I have it connected to my E4200. I disabled the wireless on the E4200 and am using the R7000 for wireless now. The UI on the R7000 is terrible, but the wireless range on it is incredible. Can't wait for Tomato support so I can retire the E4200.
     
  92. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    So many with a R7000.. and only a few DONATE to shibby or VIC ;(..Sad realy SAD...
     
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  93. JameZUK

    JameZUK Reformed Router Member

    I donated to Shibby a few days ago, I will donate to VIC too.

    R7000 owners, donate now!
     
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  94. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    .
    I donated but at the same time I don't expect anything to be hurried. It would be great if everyone who uses these Tomato variants gave just a little.

    Looking forward to one day having the familiar and end user friendly and stable Tomato firmware installed. For now Netgear's is working well enough.
     
  95. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    Please be patiant. I considering the purchase of this router soon.
     
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  96. zorkmta

    zorkmta LI Guru Member

    Nice router R7000, cheapper and faster than 68u. And with tomato will be perfect router

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  97. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

  98. Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian

    Mihai Olimpiu-Cristian Serious Server Member

    @shibby20: Just a question:
    You are working on ARM support, but please let me understand, Arm support is equivalent to any ARM processor (like the new Marvell Armada that powers WRT1900AC) or just Broadcom ARM?
    At least with Belkin/Linksys/Marvell going to OpenWRT it should be easier to support these routers? It also means a new kernel, 3.x not the actual 2.6 we use for broadcom units...
     
  99. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

  100. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    @shibby20

    thats a bit confusing!? for me its not a problem to be on k2.6 for tomato... but how is it for ddwrt possible to be on 3.x for the R7000. maybe you know the answer i know that you do not make this fw. Only a info for me. THX
     
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