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Tomato ND compatibility?

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by agentsky1919, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    Can anyone help me build list of routers that is compatible with the ND version of Tomato. This is to help our community regarding this New Driver.

    ND compatible routers:

    Updated List:

    Asus:
    WL500GP v1: 9
    WL500GP v2: 13
    WL-520GU - 13

    Buffalo:
    WHR-HP-G54 : 9
    WHR-G54S : 9
    WHR-G125: 13

    Linksys:
    WRT54GL: 9
    WRT54G 1.1: 5
    WRT54G 2.0: 7
    WRT54G 2.2 : 7
    WRT54G 3.0: 7
    WRT54G 3.1: 7
    WRT54G 4.0: 9
    WRT54G-TM - 9
    WRT54GS 1.1: 7
    WRT54GS 2.0: 7
    WRT54GS 4: 9
    WRTSL54GS : 9


    SparkLAN
    WX-6615GT: 7
     
  2. Kiwi8

    Kiwi8 LI Guru Member

    Ok let me chip in.

    According to Rodney (rhester72), run "nvram get wl0_corerev" in telnet to check the suitability.

    If it is greater than 4, you ND should work, but may be flaky or provide no benefit. If it is 7 or greater, you almost certainly will benefit.
    If it is 4 or lower, you will brick.

    So for my routers, here are the values of the variable:
    WRT54G 2.0: 7
    WRT54G 3.1: 7
    WRT54G 4.0: 9

    So all are suitable for ND, and u can add the list in. But I do not know whether all the models of the same version will return the same value of "wl0_corerev" or not.
     
  3. jnappert

    jnappert LI Guru Member

    Asus wl500gp v1: "9"
    WRT54GS4: "9"
    WRT54GS1.1: "7"
     
  4. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    Asus:
    Asus wl500gp v1: 9

    Buffalo:
    WHR-G125: 13

    Linksys:
    WRT54GL
    WRT54G 2.0: 7
    WRT54G 3.1: 7
    WRT54G 4.0: 9
    WRT54GS4: 9
    WRT54GS1.1: 7
     
  5. peyton

    peyton LI Guru Member

    Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 : 9
     
  6. Meffy

    Meffy LI Guru Member

  7. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    Asus:
    WL500GP v1: 9

    Buffalo:
    WHR-HP-G54 : 9
    WHR-G125: 13

    Linksys:
    WRT54GL
    WRT54G 2.0: 7
    WRT54G 2.2 : 7
    WRT54G 3.1: 7
    WRT54G 4.0: 9
    WRT54GS 1.1: 7
    WRT54GS 4: 9
     
  8. The_Unknown

    The_Unknown Network Guru Member

    Asus WL500GP v2: 13
     
  9. chchia

    chchia LI Guru Member

    Buffalo WHR-G54S : 9
    Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 : 9

    can anyone tell me what is the benefit of ND? :rolleyes:
     
  10. madsul

    madsul LI Guru Member

  11. taloche

    taloche Network Guru Member

    WRT54GS 1.1 : 7

    Where are the 1.22 firmware ND for WRT ?
     
  12. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    Better stability when using Intel mobile chipsets and compatibility with possible future multi-BSSID enhancements to Tomato.

    Rodney
     
  13. peyton

    peyton LI Guru Member

    Sort of, when i use the ND i'm unable to use my wifi laptop with 2200BG intel wifi card and my drivers are up to date. :confused:

    Work like a charm with standard version.
     
  14. asterger

    asterger Network Guru Member

    WRTSL54GS - 9

    Cheers,

    -- asterger
     
  15. Kiwi8

    Kiwi8 LI Guru Member

    I suggest the TS update the whole list on the first page, instead of the periodic posts which may confuse people. :)
     
  16. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    The list is updated at the first page. keep it coming guys...
     
  17. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    WRT54GS 2.0 - 7

    However, I noticed two laptops that use my connection with an INTEL 2200BG adapter and an older Toshiba 802.11b adapter don't want to connect when I use the ND, so I've gone back to the stock driver. It seems like the ND causes more problems than anything... When it does work, what exactly are the benefits? I don't have any issues with my clients getting disconnected when I use the stock driver. Is there a speed benefit on the ND, or is it just supposedly more stable?
     
  18. vanhh

    vanhh Network Guru Member

    same here, I'm wondering why. And I already updated the laptop with the latest intel drivers.
     
  19. Meffy

    Meffy LI Guru Member

    My WRT54G 2.2 is 7 but it wont run on the ND version..Net just stops working till i downgrade it.Maybe using the version to check isnt really that accurate?
     
  20. bgcngm

    bgcngm Addicted to LI Member

    Hmmm...

    My WRT54G v1.1 : 5

    I'll try and see if it works fine.
     
  21. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    ASUS 500gP V2
    definitely V2 not V1, but may be a very early one.

    /tmp/home/root # nvram get wl0_corerev
    9

    I've not tried yet tried ND firmware; but will and try with my 2200BG notebook.
     
  22. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    Ok, Update with Victek's Mod;

    2200BG works with Ubuntu Intrepid Kernel 2.6.27
    but does not connect with XP
     
  23. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    any other routers compatible with ND guys?
     
  24. fminuti

    fminuti Addicted to LI Member

    SparkLAN WX-6615GT: 7

    But I haven't tried yet (still 1.19 speedmod)
     
  25. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    any additional routers guys???
     
  26. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    WRT54G-TM (8MB flash 32MB ram) is corerev 9. Not yet tested ND with Intel 2200BG but will at some point and compare with expected failure on WRT54GS v1.1 (corerev 7).
     
  27. kenyloveg

    kenyloveg LI Guru Member

    WHR2-G54 wl0corerev=5
    Wanner give a try but afraid of bricking device:frown:
     
  28. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    You can test then, hehehehe.... i think if it brick you can still TFTP it...
     
  29. kenyloveg

    kenyloveg LI Guru Member

    Yeah, the worst way to recover is JTAG. But no clue to find any useful information for WHR2-G54, even Tomato recognized it as WHR2-AG54G54.
    BTW, how to check CPU information in telnet console? Is there any "nvram get ..." command related to this? Cuz someone said WHR2-G54 Japanese version has a 300Mhz CPU...
     
  30. sowcdwtd00

    sowcdwtd00 Addicted to LI Member

  31. boteeka

    boteeka LI Guru Member

    The ND package contains only tomato-ND.trx and the readme. Is it safe to try it on WRT54GL v1.1? I'm only asking because the readme says I should use WRT54G_WRT54GL.bin for my router.

    Also I haven't seen any posts on this thread explicitly stating that it works on WRT54GL v1.1.

    If anyone has tried it, please post your opinions.
     
  32. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    It is safe for use on all GLs (and preferred).

    Rodney
     
  33. nvtweak

    nvtweak LI Guru Member

    Is there some reason Jon doesn't update to the latest Broadcom drivers? Are they closed source, require a newer kernel or what?
     
  34. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    It's a kernel compatibility issue.

    Rodney
     
  35. nvtweak

    nvtweak LI Guru Member

    can't update kernel and drivers together?
     
  36. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    That is the point - you have to! The official Broadcom drivers are binary modules only. OpenWRT have some sources so they can build against their kernel, but note they still can't move Broadcom wireless to 2.6 kernel! Some part of the wireless drivers load as a kernel module - there is also a part in userspace which configures it. If you change the kernel you will have to rebuild all drivers (including switch etc) and also all the userspace apps. Tomato runs on the Linksys 2.4.20 kernel, but this is already heavily patched and subtly different for ND driver. It all needs great care and systematic testing, big thanks to all the the 'hackers' willing to do this!

    Note also the 4.150.x.x drivers are a couple of years old now, to get an idea where Broadcom have got to see the version number of of the windows drivers for similar wireless chips in adaptors:-

    http://www.linksysinfo.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47999&page=8
     
  37. nvtweak

    nvtweak LI Guru Member

    yeah, it would be nice to have the latest 2.4 kernel. But seems like a lot of work. Nearly impossible.
     
  38. kenyloveg

    kenyloveg LI Guru Member

    ND build DO NOT work on My WHR2-G54 (JP version)
    So glad that buffalo provides tftp way to recover it back.
     
  39. basmic

    basmic LI Guru Member

    Using nvram get wl0_corerev on my WRT54GS v1.1, I get the value of 7.
     
  40. nerdtalker

    nerdtalker Network Guru Member

    WRT54G-TM (T-Mobile edition with double RAM and ROM)

    # nvram get wl0_corerev
    9

    I'm going to flash to the ND Vegas SpeedMod drivers in a bit.
     
  41. boteeka

    boteeka LI Guru Member

    Thanks for your answer, rhester72. I'll try it.
     
  42. LanceMoreland

    LanceMoreland Network Guru Member

    I just flashed a WRT54G V2 and a WRT54GS V4 with Tomato ND without issue. I really don't notice much difference other than a little better signal quality on the WRT54G V2. I am not sure if it is related to the ND version or not. Memory usage on my units is similar to the original Tomato Version.

    Edit: just went with 1.23. No problems

    Lance
    www.pbase.com/lancemoreland
     
  43. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    Has anybody already tested with latest Intel Package for 2200BG released today?
    The driver is still at 9.0.4.39 for the XP driver but maybe it helps with ND/2200BG/XP...

    Rainer
     
  44. techcafe

    techcafe Guest

    tomato v1.23 ND on WRT54GL v1.1 - it works

    my WRT54GL v1.1
    S/N CL7Cxxxxxxxx

    reports 9
    in response to nvram get wl0_corerev
    at the telnet prompt

    i first flashed the GL with the standard WRT54G_WRT54GL.bin firmware
    did a restore default configuration with full erase of nvram
    then upgraded to tomato-ND.trx firmware
    did a restore default configuration again, rebooted, reconfigured

    router is working fine and the wireless connection has been stable (no dropped connections)
     
  45. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    new Asus 500gP V2

    I got a another one of those, this time a brand new.
    Its hw config has changed and it only boots with ND:

    wl0_corerev=13
    system type : Broadcom BCM5354 chip rev 3
    cpu model : BCM3302 V2.9
    BogoMIPS : 237.56

    while my older one was:

    wl0_corerev=9
    system type : Broadcom BCM947XX
    cpu model : BCM3302 V0.6
    BogoMIPS : 262.96

    The new one only boots ND and therefore I still have the XP / Intel BG2200 Problem, which makes tomato unusable for me.
    :frown:
     
  46. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    RockT, one of my users said he's tried it and he still can't connect to my test tomato router here (I use DD-WRT in all the AP's to avoid the problem).

    BUT there may be some good news on the horizon - keep your eyes open for new posts over the next few days !
     
  47. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed. This would be great news.
     
  48. dadaniel

    dadaniel Network Guru Member

  49. RockT

    RockT Addicted to LI Member

    Yeah. :)
    I have TeddyBear's v11 running and it works now; XP with Intel 2200BG.
     
  50. minimario

    minimario Addicted to LI Member

    Where do I sign a petition to port Tomato (the nicest of firmwares) to proper hardware like Atheros, with strong and continuing open driver development?

    I've bought two broadcom-based thingies but I'm not going to support a corporation which doesn't give a **** about the users. I realize that a lot of gear is already out there, but wouldn't the developers' efforts be also more fruitfully spent on a platform that welcomes them, including the cutting-edge 2.6.xx Linux kernel?
     
  51. JPorter

    JPorter LI Guru Member

    2 Buffalo routers here:

    WHR-HP-G54 = 9
    WHR-G54S = 9
     
  52. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Ovislink/Airlive WL-1600GL, based on Broadcom BCM5354KFBG = 13
     
  53. basmic

    basmic LI Guru Member

    Can I upgrade my WRT54GS v1.1 with the tomato-ND.trx image file?

    If not, where can I get the ND file for my router?
     
  54. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    You can use the .trx file with tomato... or the .bin
     
  55. basmic

    basmic LI Guru Member

    I have a problem with turning wireless off.

    Basically, I install the ND firmware, erased NVRAM and restored my configuration file. I noticed the WLAN was still on, although it was set to off in basic network settings.

    So I tried enabling wireless, then disabling it - still the WLAN remained lit up. I rebooted the router, then the WLAN light turned off.

    Should I start a new thread?
     
  56. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Can you see, is the wireless really ON, or is it just the LED - and what firmware are you using? Probably better in a new thread, post in a relevant modder's thread....
     
  57. RonWessels

    RonWessels Network Guru Member

    That's not the way to do it. Restoring a configuration file from a different version or a different router all but un-does the initial erasure of NVRAM.

    After erasing NVRAM, re-set your non-default settings manually through the web page. Yes, it's a pain, but not really that bad.
     
  58. flinchlock

    flinchlock Addicted to LI Member

    Asus wl-520gu

    Tomato 1.23.1606 (Tomato_1_23_ND.7z)
    Asus WL-520GU (SN: 8CIAAC......)
    CPU: BCM5354 rev 3 at 240 MHz
    Calibrating delay loop... 238.38 BogoMIPS
    eth0: Broadcom BCM47xx 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Controller 4.130.25.0
    eth1: Broadcom BCM4318 802.11 Wireless Controller 4.130.19.0

    # nvram show | grep wl0_corerev
    wl0_corerev=13

    Mike

    FYI: Just a home user replacing an old PC running ClarkConnect Community Edition 4.3 with this WL-520GU.
     
  59. tcsoft

    tcsoft Addicted to LI Member

    Motorola WR850G v1: "5"

    but whats quite interesting - i've got another wr850gv1 here and that one gives "4", but ND is running too.
     
  60. occamsrazor

    occamsrazor Network Guru Member

    I also have a WHR-G54S reporting "9"

    Can anyone with a WHR-G54S confirm that they have successfully flashed it with an ND build? I don't want to brick it...
     
  61. occamsrazor

    occamsrazor Network Guru Member

    Well I took a chance with the ND version of the OpenVPN with GUI mod, and it flashed fine....
     
  62. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Found another tomato-compatible model in an old post. Viewsonic WR100, 4MB of flash, but only 8MB of RAM. DD-WRT identifies the unit as a Dell Truemobile v.2

    With Tomato 1.23: the router model is displayed as "Broadcom 1/0x0101/44/0x10/0x0188". May be of interest?
     
  63. someguyfromhell

    someguyfromhell Addicted to LI Member

    ASUS WL-520GU - 13
    Linksys WRT54G-TM - 9
     
  64. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    I'm just curious,does anyone using WHR-G54S with the latest ND version and it's running
    without problem? thanks alot.
     
  65. Notchy

    Notchy Addicted to LI Member

    WRT54GS Ver 1.0

    this router has 8 MB flash, will this work with the ND mod?
     
  66. agentsky1919

    agentsky1919 LI Guru Member

    @ Notchy

    hmm... wonder if it will work.

    Upon searching and comparing all compatible router for tomato the least RAM is 16.

    @chris morris20

    WHR-G54S should work fine, if you are having problem just erase NVRAM and do the configuration from scratch. It always save time for me doing total configuration after flashing a new firmware.
     
  67. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    Thanks agentsky1919,will try it out later on. :)
     
  68. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    The WRT54GS V1.0 has 8MB flash 32MB ram. Whether it works on ND is down to the wireless chip, unlikely to have any benefit from later wireless drivers as old hardware, but if ND capable you could run Teddy_Bear's usb mod build (without usb)
     
  69. Badders44

    Badders44 LI Guru Member

    Yes - it works fine - been running here for ages. The only issue I had was changing the channel to anything other than 11 caused the clients (Laptop/i-pod) to not connect. This was with the Region set to Europe.
     
  70. HunterZ

    HunterZ LI Guru Member

    Don't know if this is still being updated, but my WRT54G v3.0 corerev 7 seems to be working fine with the ND version of Tomato 1.27.
     
  71. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    Thanks Badders44 for your info :) Well I did flash the ND ver. and it flashed fine,but
    I found that the wireless speed was dragged down quite alot :( I don't have any issues while hooking up with non-ND ver.(With non-ND ver. I got approx 2300kB download speed,but I only had 230kB after I flashed ND one. :( )
    Well it seems that i gotta stick with non-ND only...too bad :(

    I don't have issue on channel changing,but...the speed just gone nuts ...gosh..:(
     
  72. Badders44

    Badders44 LI Guru Member

    Sorry to hear that Chris. Below is wireless on a 20Mb connection.

    [​IMG]
     
  73. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    Thanks for your dropped by :) Actually it's okay as long as I'm happy enough with
    1.27 non-ND :) here is my wireless on 30 Mb connection and it's tested in local.
    [​IMG]
     
  74. Badders44

    Badders44 LI Guru Member

    Nothing wrong with that :) It's certainly strange how it can affect wireless speed by so much.

    I'm waiting for the Victek 1.27/1.28 release - that'll probably be a better comparison than my 1.25 RAF ND version.
     
  75. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    chris, what version of tomato are u using? Try Victek's 1.25 8515.2 ND , same as Badders44 if you can.
     
  76. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    Thanks for your head's up either,Toastman :) I tried Jon's version(1.27 ND)only.Well probably I am gonna try Victek's mod couple days later,will let you know how it goes,and I wish it works perfect :)
     
  77. chris_morris20

    chris_morris20 Network Guru Member

    Here's my report for Victek's 1.25 ND ,it seems I got luck with :)
    Wireless speed still in a good shape as usual :)
    no buggies,no unusual stuffs.Just like the way Badders44 said,waiting for the Victek 1.27/1.28 release :)
    Anyway,thx for the big assistance from badders44 and toastman
    Best regards :)
     

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