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Tomato ND USB Mod with kernel 2.6 (Tomato-RT)

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by teddy_bear, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    teddy_bear,

    Very odd (and serious problems) with USB on my WL-500gPv2. Whenever I attach my USB drive, the wireless seems to stop working. Also, the USB drive's LED seems to flicker on and off. It almost seems like the router is having a hard time powering the drive. Even after plugged in I see no change when using the df command, no drive is detected. Also, after rebooting the router with the USB drive plugged in, I sometimes can't connect to my wireless network without disabling and reenabling my wireless adapter. Is reflashing back to the stable 2.4 firmware advisable?
     
  2. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    No, they are different.
    Here's the one for RT-branch:
    http://repo.or.cz/w/tomato.git/snapshot/tomato-RT.tar.gz
    Is that the one you can't download?
     
  3. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Anything in the log? What does "lsusb" command show?
     
  4. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    After reboot, this is the only stuff that mentions USB:

    Dec 31 18:00:49 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
    Dec 31 18:00:49 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
    Dec 31 18:00:49 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:03.1 to 64
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: EHCI Host Controller
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: irq 6, io mem 0x18003800
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:03.1: USB 0.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug kernel: ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:03.0 to 64
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:03.0: OHCI Host Controller
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:03.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:03.0: irq 6, io mem 0x18003000
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug hotplug[361]: Attached USB device 1-0:1.0 [INTERFACE=9/0/0 PRODUCT=0/0/206]
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug hotplug[373]: Attached USB device 2-0:1.0 [INTERFACE=9/0/0 PRODUCT=0/0/206]
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: hub 1-1:1.0: 2 ports detected
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.debug hotplug[384]: Attached USB device 1-1:1.0 [INTERFACE=9/0/0 PRODUCT=424/2502/1]
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
    Dec 31 18:00:50 RT-00248C65E3A7 user.info kernel: usblp: USB Printer Device Class driver

    Is it safe to reflash to the old build so I can use my router for the meantime? :p
     
  5. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Sure :)
     
  6. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    Alright. Perhaps when I have more time I'll be able to try this again. But I'd say that there are some definite problems with USB on the WL-500gPv2 :/
     
  7. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    One thing I found that might be useful is this:

    In the 2.4 build 44, USB drives are labeled disc0_1, disc0_2, etc.
    In the 2.6 build 44, they were labeled sda1, sda2, etc.

    Not sure if that would affect anything or not.

    Also, is there any reason why my Xbox Live reports a moderate NAT, even when I have my Xbox in a DMZ? I really hate that it's happening and it shouldn't be! :(
     
  8. mschulze

    mschulze Addicted to LI Member

    I reported that issue before: My RT-N16 regularly drops connection to all wireless clients. It happens every 1-2 days without noticeable reason (no high load, no triggering event, etc.). The router needs to be rebooted to get the wireless clients connected again. I had this problem with beta02 and it persists with beta05.

    Thanks for the new beta and all your work!
     
  9. gwww

    gwww Addicted to LI Member

    What tool(s) are recommended for testing transfer speed?
     
  10. marumari

    marumari Addicted to LI Member

    I tried pretty much every combination of cryptography settings, channel widths, everything - I could only very occasionally keep them connected to each other, and even then, it was at something around 1mbps. Hmm!

    Going to try Eko's DD-WRT build 13575 with WDS tomorrow. I get around 8MB/sec with that firmware (20Mhz, WMM, channel 11 works best), provided QoS is turned off... it's pretty badly broken on the current DD-WRT builds. I'll get back to you and let you know if WDS transfers are working okay when I get a chance to flash it onto the secondary router.
     
  11. HanzF

    HanzF Addicted to LI Member

    I updated my RT-N16 to beta 05 (EXT). All is well so far. I am not an extreme user, but the 02 beta as well as this one have been rock solid. Very nice having my old laser printer on the network. I have a total of 9 devices configured, wired and wireless, on a mixed N and G network WPA2/AES. There hasn't been an issue for me at all, all of my gear is working as I need it.

    I did add heatsinks and a fan and the router is running very cool.

    Question? Are jumbo frames supported on RT-N16. I read something about needing Broadcom driver support? I know the check-box is present in the firmware, but does it actually work? forgive my ignorance....

    Just want to graciously thank Teddy Bear and all involved for incredible support of a device. Tomato is superb!
     
  12. blackmack

    blackmack Addicted to LI Member

    USB file copying is 2MB slower with beta 5.
     
  13. Adik

    Adik LI Guru Member

    I confirm what you have written. I got random disconnections on WAN PPPoE

    Code:
    Feb 19 22:49:18 unknown daemon.info pppoe[385]: Sending LCP Termination-Request
    Feb 19 22:49:18 unknown daemon.info pppoe[385]: Received LCP Termination-Ack
    Feb 19 22:49:18 unknown daemon.info pppoe[385]: Connection terminated.
    Feb 19 22:49:18 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[385]: Disconnected.
    Feb 19 22:49:18 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[385]: Connect time 45.1 minutes.
    
    Feb 19 23:11:57 unknown daemon.info pppoe[971]: Sending LCP Termination-Request
    Feb 19 23:11:57 unknown daemon.info pppoe[971]: Received LCP Termination-Ack
    Feb 19 23:11:57 unknown daemon.info pppoe[971]: Connection terminated.
    Feb 19 23:11:57 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[971]: Disconnected.
    Feb 19 23:11:57 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[971]: Connect time 22.6 minutes.
    
    Feb 19 23:32:05 unknown daemon.info pppoe[1234]: Sending LCP Termination-Request
    Feb 19 23:32:05 unknown daemon.info pppoe[1234]: Received LCP Termination-Ack
    Feb 19 23:32:05 unknown daemon.info pppoe[1234]: Connection terminated.
    Feb 19 23:32:05 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[1234]: Disconnected.
    Feb 19 23:32:05 unknown daemon.notice pppoe[1234]: Connect time 20.1 minutes.
    Netgear WNR3500L with Siemens SpeedStream 4100.
     
  14. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

  15. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    Just rename it from .trx to .bin for DD-wrt to accept the image.
     
  16. onehomelist

    onehomelist Addicted to LI Member

    I just bought Asus RT-N16 and flashed it with tomato beta5. I use microwave leased link, 4 Mbp/s up and down. I have a MAIPU gateway router which gives 8 WAN ip's. Asus RT-N16 is connected to MAIPU gateway via a 100 Mbp/s ethernet cable. So far it's working great. It would have been great if static DHCP / MAC restriction limit was increased, perhaps, around 250.

    Thanks teddy_bear. I feel great relief when I see that still 112 Mb of RAM is free, and CPU usage is 0.00/0.00/0.00.
     
  17. bogderpirat

    bogderpirat Network Guru Member

    yeap, just renaming the image worked out great.

    happy to see tomato running on that thing!

    usb isn't working (pretty much the same as in this posting). additionally, the usb stick that, connected to a pc, usually has this orange light in the back, seems to get no power. the hub is evidently being discovered, but there's no message in the syslog when plugging the stick in/out.

    i'll now try and configure my somewhat complicated internet (bit of a vlan tagging mess), will edit this as i get further details.

    edit: okay, for some reason usb is working now.
     
  18. vyrticl

    vyrticl Addicted to LI Member

    Last night I was able to successfully flash my WRT54GSv1 with beta5. Everything seemed to be working fine, however I was having a wireless issue.

    I was using iperf to do some throughput testing when my wireless connection dropped. Right after the wireless died it was not showing up in available wireless networks for a little bit. I've run iperf tests with multiple other versions of firmware and my wireless has never died.

    I checked the load to see if it was high, it wasn't. I turned off encryption, still happened. I changed the wireless mode, still happened. I turned on/off aferburner, still happened.

    I thought it was related to transferring large files (was transferring 500mb file with iperf) but it also happened during web browsing.

    Right now I'm back on 2.4. If there's any logs you want me to look at, I'll recreate the issue and get some logs.

    Also as for the throughput, wired was pretty much identical, wireless lagged behind by about 1-2Mbps. This is probably caused by the wireless issue. The CPU load was higher during startup but seemed to drop down to normal levels after that.
     
  19. Troydm

    Troydm Addicted to LI Member

    did some wireless transfer testings on beta5. seems that wireless bug is fixed.
    I could transfer 5 GB files several times without router locking up or rebooting
     
  20. ladysman

    ladysman LI Guru Member

    You know, I might be seeing the same thing. However, I do NOT have to reboot to get them to come back.

    Here is what i'm seeing. Iphones and 1 wireless Apple TV the signal on wireless will drop to zero bars basically but only for a minute or so. They then come right back. However, connection does NOT seem to be lost.

    I am doubting my wife's new laptop is doing this but there is a possibility the connection just comes right back. I say this because she would be yelling at me for help if there was a problem.

    I am actually still running the old original firmware though and have been since mid January. Thanks Teddy! :) I have a second RT-N16 still in the box.
     
  21. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    Even in previous version, If I changed my channel to 6(width 40MHz), there are no large file transfer issues.
     
  22. joew333

    joew333 LI Guru Member

    Better Throughput with v9043 MIPSR2 beta04

    I am getting quite a bit better throughput through the core of the router with tomato-NDUSB-9043MIPSR2-beta04-wl-056-slub-Ext than with the latest 9044 beta05 release. I have also noticed that if I turn on the Jumbo Frames my throughput goes down by about 25% with either beta04 or beta05.

    What are the main differences between these releases? Anyone else finding similar results?
     
  23. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    joew333,
    How exactly do you measure throughput and compare it between these 2 builds?

    This must be just an impression - the only difference between the test build I sent you previously (9043MIPSR2-beta04-wl-056-slub-Ext) and the released beta05u is the version number, and the fact that I recompiled it...
     
  24. marumari

    marumari Addicted to LI Member

    Okay, so, here's what I figured out. If I set the channel to 8 or higher (in US mode), with 40Mhz, WDS will refuse to connect. Channels 1 and 7 seem to work best for me - I average about about 2MB/sec between nodes. Not great, but maybe my distance is greater than yours? What do you set your x-mit power to?

    Also, I figured out why I was going so absolutely crazy trying to get WDS working before (besides the channel 8+ thing)... if you change any setting under Advanced -> Wireless, and I mean any setting, WDS will refuse to come back up. You have to reboot the router for WDS to work again. Perhaps the init script that brings wireless up and down fails to reinitialize WDS?

    Thanks again! :)
     
  25. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    I had some power issues related to USB as well. Something seems to be up in the newest build :/
     
  26. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Are you talking about WNR3500L?
    If so, have you power cycled the router at least once after flashing?
     
  27. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    No, I have a WL-500gPv2 that had problems powering a USB drive with beta5. Using build 44 of the kernel 2.4 version of the mod, my USB drives work fine, but when I try to use a USB drive on beta5 of the kernel 2.6 version of the mod, I encounter many problems, including the power issue.
     
  28. though

    though Network Guru Member

    ok just updated to beta05 with my N16 and the router will not pull in a WAN IP. i've reset the modem and router multiple times. i've done a 'clear nvram' twice. if i plug my laptop directly into the modem, it issues an ip to my laptop.

    what's the deal???
     
  29. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    Unplugged the router for couple of minutes and try again. Just a thought...:rolleyes:
     
  30. though

    though Network Guru Member

    i've never encountered this issue in the years i've been using tomato/dd-wrt :\
     
  31. ladysman

    ladysman LI Guru Member

    I have an RT-N16 I just updated to 05 version. I simply swapped out the other RT-N16 and powered everything down. I have found that my cable modem has to sit off for at least 5 minutes or I get similar issues Though.

    I'm up and running on the new version. I'll keep my eye out for wireless dropouts.
     
  32. HanzF

    HanzF Addicted to LI Member

    I had the same issue too. What I had to do was "restore default router settings (normal)", renew, and then unplug the cable modem for a minute and plug back in. Was then able to get a WAN IP assignment. Haven't had to do that before, but it did work.
     
  33. myersw

    myersw Network Guru Member

    Running beta 05 on RT-N16. Been up for 2 plus days without any problems. Wireless is used extensively with no issues. No issues with PPoE staying connected as has been reported else where. Loving it.
    --bill
     
  34. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    A few people experienced the similar issue (for example, search for mstombs posts on this thread), but the extra router power cycle (not just a reboot) seemed to work for all of them.

    I have no idea why this is happening - apparently this issue doesn't affect everyone (I can't reproduce it myself). Not a show stopper since it can be resolved by a power cycle, but certainly a very annoying issue - so I'd like to figure it out eventually.

    What is your Internet connection type, and what firmware version have you been running on your router prior to beta05?
     
  35. Lost_Animal

    Lost_Animal Addicted to LI Member

    WAN port on ASUS RT-N16 is Also Gigabit Port.....
    You have to Enable Jumbo Frames on Advanced => Miscellaneous Menu...

    Untitled.jpg

    Or Simply set Wan Port Speed at 100Mbps Full Doublex Mode.
     
  36. though

    though Network Guru Member

    lost_animal,

    you were exactly right. i enabled 'jumbo frames' and BOOM... back in business :)

    i restarted, reset, rebooted, cleared nvram, waited over an hour with both powered down, etc and it would not pull an IP before i did the enable 'jumbo frames'.

    teddy-- this a bug?

    thanks!!!!


     
  37. though

    though Network Guru Member

    teddy-

    believe me, an extra power power cycle(s) did NOT work. i did many, many of them to no avail.

    i am on time warner cable (road runner), motorola sb5101 modem. i was using the initial tomato beta release with no previous problems......



     
  38. Rasky

    Rasky Addicted to LI Member

    Hi Teddy_bear,

    I implemented the idle disks detection daemon. It has no dependencies at all (busybox only). It uses /sys on K2.6, it probably requires a few small adjustments for K2.4.

    idle_disks.sh
    http://www.pastebin.com/m6afa058a

    idle_disks.conf
    http://www.pastebin.com/m105a01e8

    As you can see, there is a preliminar support for a whitelist table. The daemon finds out the usb ids associated to each device and look it up in the table. The whitelist table is a directory: each file is named as a vendor ID, and its contents are grepped for the product ID. It's just a proposal of course: we can make it one big gzipped file (slower to decode and parse many times) or whatever we see fit.

    The daemon works well for me. I believe it would be a great addition to tomato usb. Depending on how people use NAS, it might help saving a lot of energy power.
     
  39. myersw

    myersw Network Guru Member

    Interesting. I have a RT-N16 and do not have jumbo frames enabled and the wan port is set to auto. I do not have any issues with getting an IP from my ISP. Am PPoE so maybe that is part of the reason.
    Teddy_bear's mod beta 05 just works for me.
    --bill
     
  40. though

    though Network Guru Member

    maybe it just depends on the modem that you pair up with it???
     
  41. though

    though Network Guru Member

    teddy-

    i noticed that the default wireless transmit power is set to 42 with beta05. have you noticed or heard of reliability issues? i thought we need to crank these down to 20 or so?
     
  42. ladysman

    ladysman LI Guru Member


    Mine has been at 40 since day 1 of the original firmware. I put the new 05 firmware router at the same.
     
  43. onehomelist

    onehomelist Addicted to LI Member

    please help.

    I am using Asus RT-N16 with tomato. It's 2 days since I started using it (with only few users). Today When there were about 80 users connected, the router stopped working. Power LED is stable, LAn LED is showing activity, WAN LED is not showing any activity (its stable, no blinking). When the router is pinged, it shows 'time out'. I rebooted, even cleared nvram, it works for few minutes and stops functioning. I flashed DD WRT. When there were few users, it worked. When the number increase, it too stopped working, in the same way like tomato. My internet connection come with a static ip 4 Mbp/s up and down. Any sollutions?

    If I want to roll back to Asus stock firmware, can I upload it via tomato gui?
     
  44. deboyz1014

    deboyz1014 Addicted to LI Member

    Though
    I'm using TWC as well and ran into a similiar problem. I did a combination of powered cycle/reset on the modem, same with the router and also unplugged all cables from the router plugged them back in and it worked. See if that would help you.
     
  45. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    Yes. You can upload Asus firmware directly from Tomato GUI.
     
  46. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Now, after you got it fixed, would you mind to experiment a bit? Try to _disable_ the 'jumbo frames' support again, and see if it keeps working...
     
  47. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    onehomelist,
    Are your clients wired or wireless?
    Have you already tried to flash the stock firmware? If so, does it work better for you than DD-WRT and Tomato?

    Rasky,
    Thanks for the script. I'll think about a way to integrate it. How big do you suppose the whitelist can grow?
     
  48. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

    I've done some more testing. The transfer speed through samba is pretty much the same as the previous version (~2MB/s write and 5MB/s read) BUT LAN Transfer is worse on beta5. Between 2 PC connected on LAN 1Gbps to the RT-N16 I got ~50MB/s on beta2 version, ~60MB/s on original Asus firmware. With beta5 firmware figures got much smaller... Without Jumbo Frames enabled I got ~30MB/s. With Jumbo Frames enabled, and the value set to 9014bytes in the router GUI and both LAN card on the 2 PC, the speed gets to ~35MB/s.

    Any thoughts?
     
  49. Rasky

    Rasky Addicted to LI Member

    I have no clue. Ideally, it would list all the USB hard disks in the world whose SCSI spinning commands are not bugged and/or correctly work-arounded in the kernel. Thousands of items? Tens thousands of items? It also depends on how popular Tomato USB becomes :)

    I'm not even sure how we would populate this list; probably through posts on this forum. I would say that it would be better to have a GUI option to force idle_disks to work on a specific disk even if not whitelisted, so that people can experiment with it.

    The main reason to use a whitelist is not to spin down non-disk devices like USB pendrives. I'm not sure what happens when you issue a SCSI spinning command to a USB pendrive. Maybe it would just ignore it... in that case, given also that K2.6 has a more mature USB stack, it might be worth experimenting using a blacklist for a few bugged disks rathern than a whitelist.

    I don't know... I'm open to suggestions.
     
  50. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Catalin,
    Try this version to see if LAN speed is any better with it:
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/tomatousb/files/Experimental (beta)/TEST

    P.S. I expect it to cause a lot of confusion... This is NOT the beta06. It's a TEST version with several internal experimental changes. The only reason to try it is to track down a specific issue, like the LAN speed.
     
  51. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Can anyone else confirm whether USB is working or not on Netgear WNR3500L with beta05?
    If it doesn't - please try the TEST build from the previous post.
     
  52. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

    Will do, but please advise if I should enable Jumbo Frames or not, and if so, what value should I put in. (in the LAN adapter's settings on PC I have 3 values to chose from: 1514bytes (default) / 4088 / 9014.

    I'll report back after testing.
     
  53. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Try without Jumbo Frames first. After flashing the test build, disable Jumbo frames, and power cycle the router just in case. If you see no difference, than try it with Jumbo frames.
     
  54. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

    Without Jumbo frames ~45MB/s.
    With Jumbo less than 2MB/s.
     
  55. funnydee

    funnydee Addicted to LI Member

    Hello,

    I have a simple question about this file:
    tomato-1.27-NDUSB-9044MIPSR2-beta05u-Ext.rar

    What means "Ext"?
     
  56. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    funnydee,
    Read the 1st post, and posts linked from it.

    Catalin,
    Thanks for testing! Will come up with more later...
     
  57. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

    For reference, with this build I get the same speeds as with the latest Oleg firmware (1232).
     
  58. MarcelE

    MarcelE Addicted to LI Member

    I would love to test it with my WNR3500L and USB disk but when I click on one of the beta downloads it says it can't connect. I can open the sourceforge site and browse the firmwares but whenever I click on one I get to the download (or mirror link) but after that nothing.
     
  59. though

    though Network Guru Member

    teddy-

    i disabled jumbo frames like you suggested and all is fine and dandy. it bumped me offline for about 5 seconds after i hit save then came right back :)
     
  60. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Looks like they are down right now - I can't download files from there either no matter what mirror I choose. I guess you just need to wait for it to come back...
     
  61. MarcelE

    MarcelE Addicted to LI Member

    Thanks for the update (so I don't have to try things right now).
    When it's back, I'll do some testing and let you know.
     
  62. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    Ok, so it's NOT the Jumbo frame support that made it to work - but rather some sequence of actions... Interesting - I'd like to know what the hell it is.

    Saving the Jumbo Frame setting causes router to reboot - that's why you had a 5 secs interruption. The same happens when you change and save the WAN speed setting - and that what seemed to help mstombs in similar situation. I believe the extra reboot is what matters - not what values you set these settings to.
    What's strange though is that you said you tried to reboot/power cycle a few times - but it made no difference.... Hmm...
     
  63. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    I didn't do too much testing on the beta05, but I noticed few things.

    1. Signal strength is relatively low compared to the beta02. I used the same laptop with the same distance/same transmit power(20). The only change was the firmware version. I got signal strength 75-78% with beta02 while with beta05, I got only 57-59%.
    2. I noticed intermittent signal drops. It doesn't permanently dropped, but reduced to a very low level and came back.
     
  64. Lost_Animal

    Lost_Animal Addicted to LI Member

    For me, if i set Wan Port Speed to Auto, No matter what i do or how long time i wait, Never will have Alive ISP connection (PPPoE)...

    On Beta2 i had to select 100 Mbps Full, on Beta5 100 Mbps Full, Or Wan Port Auto & Jumbo Frames Enabled....

    In Any case, if i reverse those options i will loose my ISP connection Permament again...

    Strange eeeeh ... :biggrin:

    I know, but now my RT-N16 is DEAD......(CPU Dead) and i waiting for replacement...:sheesh:

    BTW for Modem i USE ASUS WL-600G (Modem - Router - WiFi) at Bridge Mode.... Just FYI...
     
  65. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    I 've had no problems with Jumbo Frames enabled or disabled or with Wan port speed set to auto on my PPPoE connection.

    Don't know about lan speed as I haven't really tested it out but with Samba I get about 5MB read and 7MB write which seem a little faster than with beta2.

    Thanks Teddy Bear.
     
  66. MarcelE

    MarcelE Addicted to LI Member

    The site was back up again and I downloaded the TEST build and uploaded it to the WNR3500L. Everything went well (I had to do a reset after uploading, don't know if thats normal as I'm quite new to tomato firmwares).
    I've setup my router with wpa2/aes and configured USB/Samba. I connected my Maxtor Onetouch III (formatted as ext3) and it was recognized without a problem.
    I shared the folder and was able to see it on my linux machine and Xbox/XBMC (am streaming/testing a movie as we speak and everything is smooth).

    I also did a speed test and copied a movie from the USB harddisk to my laptop (connected to a LAN port) and speed was 4.4MB/s, which is I guess about 480Mbps (minus some overhead).
    Very happy user over here. Let me know if I can test some more things.
     
  67. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    cariyawa,
    The wireless driver in beta05 is exactly the same as in beta02, so most probably this behavior is just a coincidence and something else is causing it - I don't see anything in the recent changes that could affect the wireless signal, and I don't experience the same effect with my wi-fi clients here...

    Lost_Animal,
    Well, I know for sure that the "WAN speed" setting is not used by this router - neither by the firmware, nor by the CFE... It is in Tomato since some of older Linksys routers used it. For RT-N16 the only thing it does is rebooting the router when you save it...

    That whole issue with WAN port is driving me nuts because apparently many users ran into it, and solved it by various "placebo" solutions, like setting the WAN port speed, or turning the Jumbo frame support on etc... I hope to eventually find the real cause and the reliable solution...

    BTW, what happened to your N16 - how did it die??
     
  68. gijs73

    gijs73 LI Guru Member

    **** i think i may just have bricked my wnr3500l. in the netgear forum i just read rename the file and update from dd-wrt. checking the step by step guide now i know i should have retained my password first.
    any way to recover? i tried 30-30-30 reset and telnet which doesnt accept my dd-wrt credentials too :/
     
  69. HanzF

    HanzF Addicted to LI Member

    I have 3 PC's connected by hard wire to the RT-N16. All of them are intel machines and have different chipsets, all with gigabit LAN adapters.

    Asus P5Q-e....Q6600 @ 3.6 GHz, 8 GB ram......P45 chipset....Win7 x64.....Marvell 88E8056 LAN
    Abit IP35........Q6600 @ 3.5 GHz, 4 GB ram.....P35 chipset.....Win7 x64.... Marvell 88E8056 LAN
    DFI P965-S.....E2160 @ 2.2 GHz, 2 GB ram......P965 chipset.....Vista x64......Realtek 8168B LAN

    The Asus and Abit transfer an 11GB test file at 98 MB/s (784 Mbps)
    The Asus and DFI transfer an 11GB test file at 40 MB/s (320 Mbps)

    I have tried 1514, 4088, and 9014 settings on the adapters (except for DFI that only goes to 7K) and enabling jumbo frames in the Tomato firmware. For that particular file, there was no speed difference with various settings.

    I think I was getting a bit higher rate with the 02 beta (105 MB/s), but it's very close, not worth flashing back to check. Quite incredible to see the transfer rate between the Asus and Abit.
     
  70. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

    I don't know yet if buttons on WNR3500L work properly in this firmware or not. If they do, you can try to press "reset" button and hold it for longer than 3 seconds, and it will reset all settings to defaults. Then, after router reboots, you should be able to login as admin/admin.
     
  71. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    HanzF, that's very useful. It does show the dangers of posting results of speedtests on the router, when what we are actually measuring is the PC !!!

    Who the dickens are DFI??

    Is it the motherboard, or is it Vista that is responsible?? The performance of Windows 7 on 1gigbyte LAN is usually very impressive here.

    Many thanks for that post!
     
  72. HanzF

    HanzF Addicted to LI Member

    You're welcome, just thought it was something interesting to share. DFI is a motherboard (I don't use them anymore...too tricky for me to deal with)

    yes, there appears to be many variables that affect actual LAN speeds. There are many others I didn't mention. I am not sure about the effects pertaining to Vista and Win 7. I have seen speed as high as 882 Mbps on the Asus/Abit transfer. To see that much data per time move across my network is a milestone. I don't remember seeing speeds like that with Vista but honestly didn't pay close enough attention to be able to comment on that.
     
  73. meeces2911

    meeces2911 Addicted to LI Member

    Im sorry for posting this because im SURE there are other posts about it (search is failing me atm :( ), but how do i connect me pc to the printer connected to my Asus RT-N16... its showing up in the usb list (web gui thing), so im pretty sure its connected. But there is no mount point (im asuming as its a newwork printer it doesnt need one ?).

    Can someone either help me with this, or point me to another post ?
     
  74. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

    May I ask how do you know by which method were the values obtained???? Wild guess? And what's the point of your remark in relation to this firmware? As long as with the same PCs I get so much slower speeds just by changing the firmware version, I think is obvious where the problem is...

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    My PC's are 2 laptops (Asus M70Sa) with Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.5GHz, 4GB Ram, Intel® PM965 Express Chipset, Marvell 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller. 2 HDD inside each unit, main one being 7200rpm, capable of more that 120MB/s throughput. I don't think is a configuration issue...

    And BTW, both running Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit.
     
  75. Catalin

    Catalin Addicted to LI Member

  76. HanzF

    HanzF Addicted to LI Member

    In Windows...(I am using Vista as an example)

    1. goto add printer

    2. add local printer

    3. Create new port

    4. Standard TCP/IP

    5. TCP/IP device

    6. 192.168.1.1 (or whatever IP you assigned to your router)

    wait for detection (will show not found)

    7. Choose custom, click settings button

    8. should see 192.168.1.1 (or whatever IP you assigned to your router), RAW, and 9100.....hit ok

    9. hit next and install drivers
     
  77. MarcelE

    MarcelE Addicted to LI Member

    It's in a weird state after updating, even after poweroff/on, it doesn't accept the dd-wrt password or tomato's password.
    I had problems login in as well, after a reset (hold it for a few seconds) and you should be able to login with standard Tomato admin/admin.
    Still running smoothly here.
     
  78. meeces2911

    meeces2911 Addicted to LI Member

    Thanks Catalin and HanzF, that was really helpful :D I wonder how the asus software does it automatically tho? meh, ohwell, it works, thats all i wanted.
     
  79. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    I changed my firmware to non-vpn version. No connection dropping any more(I don't know why??), but had a really weird experience with the power LED. I got the internet connection working, but couldn't see the power LED. All the other lights such as WAN, LAN and wireless are working..it is just the power LED. At that time, I already have done thorough NVRAM erase. So, I did another power cycle and everything is working fine. Happy to see the lights.:biggrin:

    Getting a WAN IP became an issue. In beta02, just hard reset + power cycle of the modem solved the issue, but not at this time. As a previous posted suggested, I enabled jumbo frame, it worked. Again, as TB suggested, then I disabled jumbo frames, no more problems, it is working. Even after router reboots it gets a WAN IP. Really weired:confused:..
     
  80. maurer

    maurer LI Guru Member

    beta05 usb ext version on RT-N16
    After 7 hours of ssh tunnel connection open to the router - i lost the connection
    the same thing happened yesterday - and when i reached home i could not connect to the router not even wired.
    After a hard reset (unplug then pluged back after 10 sec) all was ok but i could not collect the logs.
    How can i collect the logs on usb hdd instead of tmp memory?
    I think i'll flash back beta02 because i really need ssh tunnel (filtered office connection).
    I'm open also to suggestions.
     
  81. teddy_bear

    teddy_bear Network Guru Member

  82. eakf

    eakf Addicted to LI Member

    Beta 5 troubles getting IP adddress over DHCP

    I took the route of bashing my head against the wall for hours trying settings, clearing NVRAM, flashing older firmware, and numerous power cycles and startup sequences before google searching and found the good ol' Tomato FAQ.

    I'll save you the trouble: Go to Advanced/DHCP and try enabling "Reduce Packet Size".

    Worked for me, anyway. Never had to do that before with Tomato.

    - e​
     
  83. eakf

    eakf Addicted to LI Member

    Beta 5 solved my earlier issues

    Thanks again Teddy for all your work.
    The connection/XFer rate issues I was having under Beta 2 have disappeared. I can't be 100% sure exactly why, but I'm now getting solid 150mbps connection rates with 6-7 MB/s transfer rates now. Better transfer rates than I was expecting in my conditions anyway.
     
  84. maurer

    maurer LI Guru Member

  85. Isildur

    Isildur Addicted to LI Member

    BUG with Jumbo Packet & Port Forwarding

    teddy_bear, first of all I want to say thank you for your work.

    I found a bug with Jumbo Packet & Port Forwarding on beta5 (don't know about all other versions), here is simplified steps to reproduce it:
    1) there are 3 devices:
    Asus RT-N16 with external ip from ISP(for example 5.5.5.5), internal ip 192.168.0.1 and jumbo packet turned on and set to 9000 (or 9014).
    Some NAS with internal ip 192.168.0.2, jumbo packet turned on and set to 9000 and webserver running on port 8080.
    PC1 with internal ip 192.168.0.3, jumbo packet turned on and set to 9014.
    2) Enable port forwarding on Asus from ext. port 80 (or any other port) to 192.168.0.2:8080.
    3) Open in web browser on PC1 page 192.168.0.2:8080 - all OK.
    4) Open in web browser on somebody's PC from internet page 5.5.5.5:80 - all OK.
    5) Open in web browser on PC1 page 5.5.5.5:80 - it doesn't work (opening connection and long trying to download content of web page).
    6) Turn off Jumbo Packet and retry to open in web browser on PC1 page 5.5.5.5:80 - all OK.
    The end.

    And a few questions about tomato (I'm a newbie with it):
    1) Is there any config files for SSH daemon? I want to restrict access to SSH with root login (allow only su from some users).
    2) How to add users to SSH using "Authorized Keys"?
    3) Is there any method to save data of "Last 24 Hours" of Bandwidth statistics to CIFS before reboot and load it after start up?
    4) Can I install mc (midnight commander), and how to do this? (I'm running tomato-1.27-ND-9044MIPSR2-beta05u version)

    p.s. sorry for my horrible English.
     
  86. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    Well I'm glad I'm not the only one, means I am not completely mad! It is hardware related because I had the same problem going back to Asus firmware - only fixed by extra hard reboot. I'm pretty sure I cured the problem on my last flash by power cycling the modem, not the router. I may also be too impatient, if the CFE doesn't use the same MAC address as the firmware there is a possibility of an arp problem - it may just be the reboot is so quick the switch doesn't reset, or connected devices don't see the media layer disconnect? The modem will not then talk to the router until its arp cache times out (about mins). You can have multiple IPs on same MAC, but not other way round.

    [currently using and exploring Linux 2.6 on my WRT54G-TM]
     
  87. myersw

    myersw Network Guru Member

    Is there a possible difference between early RT-N16 and later? The one I have is dated built Dec 2009 and I do not seem to experience the issues some others talk about.
    --bill
     
  88. mountain

    mountain Addicted to LI Member

    Sorry for the late response. The images:
    Code:
    tomato127-USB-9044MIPSR2-beta06u.02-Ext-TEST.rar    5.3 MB  2010-02-23      20
    tomato127-USB-9044MIPSR2-beta06u.01-Ext-TEST.rar    5.1 MB  2010-02-22      57
    are both working fine with WNR3500L and my USB equipment. I am still getting
    a kernel Oops when I go into the USB menu. But IMHO you are right that this is
    related to my UMTS modem.
    Other USB sticks are working without a glitch.

    Many thx :)
     
  89. mountain

    mountain Addicted to LI Member

    Code:
    / # lsusb 
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19d2:2000
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
    / # usb_modeswitch -W 
    Reading config file: /etc/usb-modeswitch.conf
    
     * usb-modeswitch: handle USB devices with multiple modes
     * Version 1.1.0 (C) Josua Dietze 2010
     * Based on libusb 0.1.12
    
     ! PLEASE REPORT NEW CONFIGURATIONS !
    
    DefaultVendor=  0x19d2
    DefaultProduct= 0x2000
    TargetVendor=   0x19d2
    TargetProduct=  0x0031
    TargetClass=    not set
    
    DetachStorageOnly=0
    HuaweiMode=0
    SierraMode=0
    SonyMode=0
    GCTMode=0
    MessageEndpoint= not set
    MessageContent="5553424312345678000000000000061b000000030000000000000000000000"
    NeedResponse=0
    ResponseEndpoint= not set
    Interface=0x00
    
    InquireDevice enabled (default)
    Success check disabled
    System integration mode disabled
    
    libusb:error [usbi_sanitize_device] too many configurations
    libusb-compat error: find_busses: get_device_list failed with error -1
    libusb-compat error: usb_find_busses: find_busses failed with error -5
    libusb:error [usbi_sanitize_device] too many configurations
    
    Looking for target devices ...
     No devices in target mode or class found
    Looking for default devices ...
     No default device found. Is it connected? Bye.
    still some modem related problems. I am lost at the moment ...
     
  90. cheebster

    cheebster Addicted to LI Member

    Um.. is it just me, or the wireless range of the RT-N16 plainly sucks ?

    I'm trying to get wireless to work in the garage, and i'm getting better signal using an old WRT54GL :|

    Do i NEED to switch to a -N compatible PCI wifi adapter to get, at least, a stable wireless link to the RT-16N ? Right now, i'm using a startech wireless adapter, the PCI555WG which has a RALINK chipset.

    I tried many settings using the RT-N16, used tomato, DD-WRT, none give me a good signal strenght and quality, hell i lose a packet outta 2 when pingin'.

    If anyone has a clue.. tia !!!
     
  91. onehomelist

    onehomelist Addicted to LI Member

    I had posted this few days ago:

    I tried pinging the router via LAN. I used to get 'timed out' response. But when I pinged the router for a long time I could get 1 or 2 packet replies. All the LED's were OK. I tried connecting over wi-fi, and it did work. I didn't lose any pinged packets. I uploaded the ASUS firmware, and returned the router for replacement. Even with the ASUS firmware the wired LAN didn't work.

    Any suggestions about what might have caused the LAN failure? (for only one day the router functioned properly with tomato)
     
  92. though

    though Network Guru Member

    buy a RT-N12 and set it up as a bridge :)


     
  93. bub181

    bub181 Addicted to LI Member

    Mine is built in Dec. 2009 as well and it seems to be running fine so far.
     
  94. bigclaw

    bigclaw Network Guru Member

    Stupid question: how do I see the build date?
     
  95. cariyawa

    cariyawa Addicted to LI Member

    It is in the out side of the box... there is a sticker with S/N + other details
     
  96. cheebster

    cheebster Addicted to LI Member

    OK, now can i use 2 RT-N16's instead ? I have one sitting on the shelf here - would bridging those 2 together in WDS mode give me a good range and signal reliability ?

    Thanks !!!!
     
  97. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    I can only tell you my experience which is my signal is slightly better than my old hardware, across both G and N clients. I have a variety of client hardware including my old G routers, Dell laptop with integrated Intel G, Belkin N card, desktop with old AT&T PCI G card, Thinkpad T60 with integrated G.
     
  98. cheebster

    cheebster Addicted to LI Member

    .. and why is that ? I wonder why we aren't getting much improvement, is it because we're unable to ajust the transmit power currently (not getting the best out of the radio on the N16) or it's just, that the wireless isnt that good in it ?

    Just wondering. I mainly upgraded to get better wireless signall all around, didn't care much about more ram/cpu, the WRT54GL did great for me :frown:
     
  99. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Read through the whole thread for posts on this problem. Setting country to US allows more control. Have you tried it yet? It also appears that some channels are better than others.
     
  100. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    My G signal is a bit stronger and more reliable throughout my home. So its noticeably if not dramatically better in my case which is all I'd hoped for personally. And now I can upgrade to N over time where it gives me the most bang for the buck. I do expect better from the N clients so time will tell there. I'm only in the early stages there with only one client upgraded so far and haven't really tested it for results. Well, connectivity is fine but haven't tested speed etc. Speed is fast enought to get done what I need to, hasn't slowed down, but have no idea if it's improved or by how much.

    I should say that, just as with my G routers and even some of my wireless phones, the most important variable in getting good coverage is physical location. I move my access point around and check signals throughout the house to get the best results. This is most likely due to density of material inside my walls and how much dense material is in the line of sight to any given location. It makes my brain hurt trying to figure out what material is where so find that trial and error testing results is the best/easiest way to find the best location.

    Luckily didn't have to do that this time since the RT-N16 worked fine just dropping it in the old access point location which had been found through previous testing. Also as recommended I have the middle antenna straight up and the outside two at 45 degrees from that.
     

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