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Tomato RAF Releases

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Victek, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    Just in scheduler check reboot, set time and save it
  2. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    oppss, sorry for not answering last posts... I deleted the alert e.mail before reading...
    About ARM:
    Some of you (the git followers) know that tomato is based in mips architecture and some modules are compiled with mips switches, well, porting to ARM mean that these modules need to be ported to ARM, then new version is needed, then incompatible libraries found, then libraries need to be updated... resuming, it's not easy .. but it's also a positive side, tomato (modules, kernel, iptables) it's updated to recent patches and versions. When it will be ready? ... since it's a hobby for me I hope it will be ready soon (1-2 months) depending if I get help from others, but don't ask for dates.

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  3. LRocks

    LRocks Reformed Router Member

    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  4. LRocks

    LRocks Reformed Router Member

    Key word "future" :) I love Tomato and the famous Asus RMerlin breeds of firmware.
  5. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    bcmcrypto and bcm57xx (network driver) updated to last Broadcom release to make it compatible with latest AC routers and ARM sysdep. Just one information for the guys cloning the git. Have a nice day.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
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  6. Donny72

    Donny72 Serious Server Member

    Nope, this is too easy. ;)
    Everytime, afer I reboot the router I need to press the "save button" on the tomato- captive portal page to get the portal back to work. At this, I assume, the services are being restarted and this is what I want to to via the scheduler using some commands ...
  7. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    'service splashd restart' should be enough, also it can be associated when no traffic is detected for a certain period of time like as a watchdog without interference with other router pid.
  8. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    @Donny72 - I use captive portal and scheduler for reboot my router and it works without presssing save button :) or am I missing something? I use latest beta

    @Victek - good job! What about the udpxy - do you know the version in Tomato or it will be updated during porting to ARM :)
  9. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    @Victek - good job! What about the udpxy - do you know the version in Tomato or it will be updated during porting to ARM :)[/quote]

    Build 21 (25-Nov-2011) ..newer than in other official and third part firmwares .... this package is POSIX-compliant, not affected by ARM porting ... latest is build 23 (3-July 2012) with improvement at compilation bugs ..minor changes.
  10. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    OK, thx for info! So update maybe in future when you will have empty TODO list :D:D I am just kidding! Keep good job
  11. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    Day 5 :D... Joking..

    20 days Uptime.. No Problems. 100/10Mbit. With over 20 Devices (Lan/WLAN) an Adblock Script
    (RAM Size / Free124.00 MB / 91.38 MB)

    THX Victek
  12. irvoh

    irvoh Reformed Router Member

    Hello! Has exFAT returned to the firmware? Last update was that the GUI was the remaining step to its inclusion.
    Thank you for all you do!
  13. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    It's amazing, stability in latest versions allows to invest resources in code optimization ... thanks for the info. ;)

    @irvoh , working on it among other things too.
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  14. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    For users cloning the TomatoRAF git, 50MB less size in the source due to shared directories, seeking space to integrate the ARM environment ;)

    Anybody have RT-AC56U to test? send me PM, no brick danger ;), Thanks
  15. bobyang

    bobyang Serious Server Member

    I have a ac56u. please let me know anytime i could help. thanks!
  16. Popopinsel

    Popopinsel Reformed Router Member

    Hello everyone,

    I have a Cisco/Linksys E4200 running Tomato RAF Firmware v1.28.9013 MIPSR2-RAF-V1.2v K26 USB. It's connected (PPPoE) to my local ISP's DSL modem (FTTH).

    My ISP now has opened an IPv6 pilot program. They're using dual stack, announcing a /64 net via router advertisement and an additional /48 net via prefix delegation.

    So, is the firmware compatible with this? And does the firewall still work under IPv6 so my LAN clients aren't accessible over the internet?

    Thanks in advance!
  17. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Thanks @bobyang , what's your downstream speed?

    Yes, it's ... I recommend you to download update v1.2x release.
  18. Popopinsel

    Popopinsel Reformed Router Member

    Thank you, Sir. I will try that.
  19. zavar

    zavar Networkin' Nut Member

    Hi Victek,

    I was just re-purposing my Buffalo WHR-HP-54G as an access point and thought I should ensure that I'm running the latest RAF version available for it. Currently, it has tomato-RAF-K26-1.28.9006MIPSR1_RAF-Std-NOCAT. Looking at the download page the link for the WHR-HP-54G is pointing to Tomato_RAF_1.25.8515.2-ND. Is 1.25.8515.2-ND recommended instead of 1.28.9006?

    Sorry, it's just been quite awhile since I've updated the F/W on this router.

  20. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    If it's just an AP then you probably don't need to update the firmware.
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  21. Menkatek

    Menkatek Network Guru Member

    I have a WRT54G v2.0. Will Tomato RAF really enable throughput speeds faster than 25 mbps without overclocking the unit?

    I tried overclocking to 250 MHz (Toastman v1.28.7635) and my CPU couldn't handle it. At 240 MHz, I was only able to reach 21 mbps.
  22. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    I tested in WRT54GL not version 2 and got 50Mbps sustained ,, I don't know if hardware for v2 is the same, you can try first to run official firmware (Linksys) and check the maximal speed before trying other version.

    This the link to the version I recommend, 50Mbps with WRT54GL.
  23. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

  24. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

  25. Menkatek

    Menkatek Network Guru Member

    If I can achieve at least 30 mbps with the 4710, I'll be happy as it is 28 mbps connected directly to modem. My main concern was if the firmware would instantly overclock the CPU after flash. Thanks Victek, I will have a test tonight.
  26. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    I just installed 1.2x on my RT-AC66U I could not get a WAN IP address, I reboot it 2 times still not getting an WAN IP, I even waited about 10 minutes,

    Reverted back to older version.


    I was having my son help me, He didn't plug the wan port in all the way..
    He's learning.
    Sorry VIC.
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2014
  27. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    This section didn't change at all, I read some other post of people in the forum having the same problem due to locked ISP MAC but in your case it doesn't change at all, then I suggest you to erase nvram and reconfigure again.

  28. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    If you want I can send the log file somewhere .


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  29. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Yes, it will help a lot to see what the log says, you can drop in paste.bin and send me PM with the link.

  30. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    sent via dropbox

  31. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    and the link?
  32. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    PM you
  33. ForFun

    ForFun Reformed Router Member

    Hi evreyone, Hi Victeck
    I have Linksys E1500. I install tomato-E1500USB-NVRAM64K-1.28.9013MIPSR2--RAF-VLAN-VPN-NOCAT
    But my cilents are connect poor quailty.
    Help me config my settings
    And my settings


    Sorry my English is bad
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2014
  34. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    Status Report:
    Uptime 31 days, 13:43:23
    ModelAsus RT-N16
    ChipsetBroadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1 pkg 10
    Tomato RAF Firmware v1.28.9013 MIPSR2-RAF-V1.2x K26 USB
    10-20 Clients Wan/WLAN (ONLY N)
    Adblock Script with 1 Million Blocked Sites
    PPTP&OpenVPN Client (Sometimes)
    USB&Webserver active (no heavy load ->1-2 per day)
    QoS enabled
    @100/10 Cable Modem & Speed (Speedtest without QoS 104Mbit/9,9Mbit)
    All running fine with a bit high load->100% :(

    Maybe with a new optimized Version :D

  35. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Hi @ForFun your settings (default settings) are fine, just search a 'clean' wireless channel, the rest is hardware related, I saw bad comments about wireless coverage for this model... we can't improve it.
    Also I noticed you did a background electrical noise compensation and the value (-75) is very low... could you move the router away from electrical interference devices, metallic structures or fluorescent lamps?, then try again... a -90 to -99 it's acceptable.

    Simply amazing ;) , yes, I'll release a new version soon, changelog; Few changes but due to ARM upgrade some modules are updated (version), so.. we have to be careful testing the next version for some bug due to update.

    Thanks for the info, it looks very impressive! :)
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2014
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  36. ForFun

    ForFun Reformed Router Member

    Hi @Victek
    Thank you very much.I will try your guide
  37. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    not received ... you can send me e.mail using the contact button at my website.... ;)
  38. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    Hi Victek,

    i have a stupid question. :D

    Is it possible to build in your FW a Proxy Server? Like Squid or something else?! I ask because i would like to make a Proxy cache for all of my clients. I have no BW Limit or so. But why should every client download the whole files/pages again?!

    But i see there could be a few Problems.

    1) USB Stick @ Asus N16 fast enough for 100/10mbit?!
    2) Fast enough to serve more than one Client?!
    3) FW Space to add the Proxy.

    Only a Question. if there is one Problem forget what i say.


    AH NEW VERSION-> Like Christmas :D
  39. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    NGINX (already in RAF firmware) can run as FW proxy, reverse Proxy.. I think @RonV made one manual replacing pixelserv with nginx in this forum. More information about your goal can be found here, and here. Yes, the RT-N16 can do it easily since http proxy module it's included in the distributed firmware, just increase the priority for NGINX PID if you see delays answering when many clients access at once, but I think for normal http sites (without video streams) should work, also you can restrict the cached file extensions.
    Don't be confussed when it ask for another server, simply include your router address and path (mnt/dev/sda1/... ) for your cached storage area.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2014
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  40. mihaicris

    mihaicris Reformed Router Member

    Hi Victek,

    I have a WRT54GL router which was perfect until now when I switched to a 1giga bit connection pppoe. (I tested with a tplink wdr3600 with aprox 940 mbps max speed). Unfortunatelly the linksys is limiting my speed up to 40 mbps. So now is the time to upgrade the router. What gigabit router - eventually from linksys - you recommend me to buy, which shall be stable after written with tomato raf and to sustain the gigabit speed ? Thanks for the suggestion. Ps. - an AC router would be a plus for me.
  41. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member


    Netgear R7000 ... Simultaneous throughput ... 1.3gigabit.
    Asus RT-AC56U ... " " ... 1.25gigabit.
    Asus RT-AC66U ... " " ....0.95gigabit.

    But ... these figures are measured without any filter (QoS, Restrictions... )

    At the present Tomato OR any third party firmware (dd-wrt, openwrt) can't reach these figures because hardware acceleration is disabled when netfilter rules are added.

    About wdr3600, 4900... it's using Atheros chipset and these figures are obtained without QoS or filters.

    My suggestion... if you really want to reach 1gigabit throughput wired ... use pfsense os.

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  42. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    I think Victeck meant Asus RT-AC68U.
  43. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    Pfsense os - I recommend it for you - you need high throughput. HW is not expensive and it has more power. I built one device for my friend because he got same problem, now he is happy. Consider this
  44. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    :) no, unfortunately not ... it's RT-AC66U .. but I expect RT-AC68U with 4709r will reach same as R7000 or Linksys AC1900.

    1gigabit it's out of bounds for a domestic connection, it's a corporate connection and then it's logical that hardware should be in accordance to it.
  45. mihaicris

    mihaicris Reformed Router Member

    Hey guys thanks for fast reply. Well, it is a domestic connection and I am not using any filters or restrictions. Tplink was fine but started slowly from 200 mbps up to 940 mbps and on wireless connections was acting very strange. As I learned , the n56u router doesn't have this delay. But it is not an Ac router and most of users are using the padavan firmware. I really like the tomato and I would like some features in the RAF branch. I want to buy a router which is stable like WRT54GL and intend to use it for the next 3-5 years. I didn't know about pfsense os and related hardware so I'll start read about it.
  46. mihaicris

    mihaicris Reformed Router Member

    By the way in Romania recently you can have 1gbps pppoe fiber to home for 10-15 euro and there seems to be a big market for gigabit routers. You need also a i5-i7 and ssd hard drive at least to sustain that speed.
  47. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    I stand corrected, I thought the 66u was maxing out in th 800mbps range even with all the acceleration options enabled.
  48. JugsteR

    JugsteR Serious Server Member

    1) That's cheap
    2) No you don't. You can accomplish that with _a lot_ cheaper hardware.

    Signature? Signature!
  49. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Yes, you're right, according this test it scores what you said, in later firmware they improved a little bit..
  50. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Look at the hardware specifications needed to maintain >500Mbps throughput .. it's not a toy.
  51. RonV

    RonV Network Guru Member

    Well that tells me what to do with all the old Buffalo 54G routers I took out of service. They will be heading to the electronics recycler. They were good for DSL speeds but would never handle modern connectivity such as Cable, FIOS, or vDSL.
  52. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    A brief self explanatory video 'How to adjust Bandwidth Limiter in your router'. Click here
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2014
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  53. The Master

    The Master LI Guru Member

    THX a bit heavy too understand :(. But i will try it. Maybe in a far far away new Version of your FW its only a bunch of clicks :D. Maybe somebody need it too?!?!?

  54. Lorenceo

    Lorenceo Networkin' Nut Member

    Is the hardware in the N66U the same as that of the AC66U, ignoring the different wireless card?
    I tried transferring files over SMB from WAN-LAN on my N66U and only managed to get about 200mb/s. It was about half that with QoS enabled. During testing the GUI became unresponsive, so I assume it to be a CPU bottleneck.
    My internet is only 20mb/s on a good day though, so it's not too big of a concern for me.
  55. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Enter via telnet and type command top, look sirq % and then you know why GUI is unresponsive ....in a normal condition sirq it's below 5% ... when netfilter and switch is busy then problems appear, here is the bottleneck.

    Mem: 25800K used, 101180K free, 0K shrd, 3716K buff, 10808K cached
    CPU: 0% usr 0% sys 0% nic 93% idle 0% io 0% irq 5% sirq
  56. bobyang

    bobyang Serious Server Member

    Last edited: Jan 25, 2014
  57. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    After trying shibby 116. I have to say I switched over to yours I am running 1.2x on my E4200 and rt-ac66 I have to say it's really stable and all works, I had 15 computers connected via cable/wifi playing games. It was stable and fast with no problemsat all. I have rt-ac66 as primary and E4200 as media wifi bridge


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  58. teh_g

    teh_g Networkin' Nut Member

    @Victek I heard from http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/ that you might need some people to test with the RT-AC68U? Is that true?

    On a similar note:
    I am curious if there has been any "formal" testing of the performance differences between ASUS-WRT and Tomato on the newer hardware? I upgraded to the RT-AC68U from my RT-N16, and miss Tomato a lot, but don't want to lose on some of the performance improvements.
  59. kyrios

    kyrios Serious Server Member

    If I remembered correctly, victek said about AC56U
  60. StrykerNL

    StrykerNL Serious Server Member

    I have an RT-AC56U. My connection is 300Mbit/300Mbit fiber.
  61. KGB-7

    KGB-7 Reformed Router Member

    I have 2 AC68R's to test it with.

    Where are the download links??

  62. mrQQ

    mrQQ Addicted to LI Member

    my fault
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
  63. StrykerNL

    StrykerNL Serious Server Member

    300Mbit ftth with ac56u:

  64. KGB-7

    KGB-7 Reformed Router Member

    Where are the download links???
  65. Victek

    Victek Network Guru Member

    Good news then, thanks a lot for the feedback and usage ;)

    Thanks, it's curious the multiple samba instances...

    Send an e.mail to contact link in my website and I'll send you the link, now I solved another issue in the beta so it's a more mature release for test. I'm testing RT-AC56U cause is the unit I have now.... I can't say if RT-AC68U will work (wireless section), shibby is working in this model I think.
  66. StrykerNL

    StrykerNL Serious Server Member

    I reckon it's normal in the Asus firmware. I run the latest merlin firmware atm.
  67. KGB-7

    KGB-7 Reformed Router Member

    Email sent.

    Thanks dude.
  68. teh_g

    teh_g Networkin' Nut Member

    I will post in shibby's thread since I have the RT-AC68U. Can't wait to see Tomato running there!
  69. zorkmta

    zorkmta LI Guru Member

    i´m sticking on the version V1.2v

    ModelAsus RT-N16
    ChipsetBroadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1 pkg 10
    CPU Clock480 MHz
    CPU Load1.16%
    CPU Load (1 / 5 / 15 mins)0.00 / 0.00 / 0.00
    Date & TimeMon, 27 Jan 2014 17:44:16 -0400
    Uptime24 days, 19:39:56
    Flash RAM Size32 MB
    RAM Size / Free124.00 MB / 113.73 MB (91.72%)
    NVRAM Size / Free32.00 KB / 10.92 KB (34.13%)

    ModelLinksys E4200 v1
    ChipsetBroadcom BCM4716 chip rev 1 pkg 10
    CPU Clock480 MHz
    CPU Load2.74%
    CPU Load (1 / 5 / 15 mins)0.00 / 0.00 / 0.00
    Date & TimeMon, 27 Jan 2014 18:45:04 -0300
    Uptime15 days, 04:05:24
    Flash RAM Size16 MB
    RAM Size / Free60.03 MB / 42.83 MB (71.35%)
    NVRAM Size / Free60.00 KB / 34.48 KB (57.46%)

    ModelAsus RT-N66U
    ChipsetBroadcom BCM5300 chip rev 1 pkg 0
    CPU Clock600 MHz
    CPU Load6.50%
    CPU Load (1 / 5 / 15 mins)0.00 / 0.00 / 0.00
    Date & TimeMon, 27 Jan 2014 18:45:28 -0300
    Uptime9 days, 22:04:26
    Flash RAM Size32 MB
    RAM Size / Free249.95 MB / 231.14 MB (92.47%)
    NVRAM Size / Free64.00 KB / 38.59 KB (60.29%)

    All models testing and stable rocking.

    Great job and keep going

  70. MrDoh

    MrDoh Networkin' Nut Member

    I'm seeing references here to the Netgear R7000...is the Victek firmware being discussed here usable on the R7000? Or is someone else working on the R7000? I'd love to see tomato running on the R7000, so I'm wondering what's going on with it?

    Thanks very much.
  71. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    hey guys. im an RT-AC66U user. originally i tried dd-wrt in july or august but the wifi was not as good and no HW acceleration support. since then i have went back to merlin-wrt and used it ever since. this firmware has worked good for me so far but i am starting to consider trying tomato. hopefully i could tell you guys what i would like to use the router for and some people could let me kno if it will do what i need it to in tomato.

    so lets start with some questions.

    1. HW acceleration is permanently of in tomato correct? im assuming it cant be used. no big deal though as im a QOS user and even with asus-wrt and merlin-wrt QOS disabled HW acceleration.

    2. how is the wifi compared to merlins firmware or original firmware and also is there AC support?

    3. will i still be able to use 2 network drives via SMB?

    4. just to be sure. does QOS have a setting so i can apply it only to upload. as merlin-wrt or asus-wrt doesnt have this.

    5. does QOS or some other feature in the router have the ability to rate limit devices. i have this setup via QOS on merlin-wrt so i would hope i could with tomato.

    6. does tomato have parental controls

    7. does tomato have any other downs/ups im forgetting about. anything additional to consider?

    i got alot of bitcoin miners so for me to cut the internet out just to try new firmware isnt really an easy decision to make.

    hopefully i didnt forget anything. thanks everyone.
  72. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    All yes expect 7. Downs no ups victek is great ups bw limiter FTP settings more and more .. Rt-ac66 1.2z see my post above a few


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    Last edited: Jan 28, 2014
  73. Lorenceo

    Lorenceo Networkin' Nut Member

    Sorry for the delay. I just did this and the sirq % gets up very high when moving around 200mb/s through the WAN.

    This is with QoS disabled.
  74. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    could anyone answer any of my questions in my post 3 posts above this. my main question is how the wifi compares to asus firmware for the RT-AC66U. as i have a 100mbit connection and i can get the full 100mbit on 5GHz. i would not like this to change. i have a very big house and rely on the 2.4 and 5GHz throughput, range, and its ability to handle multiple clients. also im assuming there is AC support but i must clarify. has anyone done any thorough testing comparing asuswrt/merlinwrt, tomato, and dd-wrt throughput and range for both radios. other then that im having a hard time thinking of any downsides to tomato. also are there any other good versions, better options, or ideas for other versions of tomato that work well with RT-AC66U.

    im also curious why tomato vs dd-wrt. preference? i feel like tomato takes less to run so it lets the router perform slightly better.
  75. eviltone

    eviltone Network Guru Member

    Well, this is a very subjective question. There is no true answer. Environmental issues, related hardware issues (the Wireless NIC in your PC), channel choice, surrounding WiFi spots, and just plain RNG when it comes to things have a play in the wireless output.
    Your best bet is just to try it, and see if it works for you. Its not like there isn't a way back to stock. So you spend a little time, and see if you get the results you desire. No one else's experiences really will tell you what will and what wont work for you, especially pairing with different NIC chipsets and hardware.

    Again --- it all comes down to personal preference. Find what works for you. Take a leap, and see what is better FOR YOU. You seem to have a pretty good thought between the two already.
    That said --- I'm liking Victek's tomato builds better than the DD-WRT that i used to run. Its all in my personal preference, however. I'm using what I like, what I feel comfortable with, and what seems to work best for me.
  76. srwal

    srwal Reformed Router Member

    Just a quick question, no EA6500 support as yet?
  77. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    i fully disagree. you simply measure rssi and speeds with 2 devices on the network. u can use a good laptop and an iphone 5 to the network with each firmware thoroughly. its not like some device is gonna be amazing for me and horrible for someone else. the logic is not there. its possible the quality will vary with devices but its not like random things work together and others don't, the logic in that is definitely not there. simply the devices with good wifi chips perform better and and longer range. i have had problems with stuff not joining a network. once in my life i have seen an atheros chipset fail to connect to an actiontec v1000. but i had hacked the v1000 and it connects to other v1000's no prob. just connected it to one to test.

    do u even use an RT-AC66U eviltone? if you do what differences to you notice. it would be nice if some RT-AC66U users could give me info. as there seems to be a lack of both.
  78. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    It takes about 15 min to put it on and test it. or hours trying to find out, we can say it works for our environment.
    15 PC's plus who know who had IPhones and version they had. while streaming Neflix, I can't complain.

    you can always go back to what ever your running..

  79. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    Actually there have been multiple cases of that over the years, but if everything is so black and white to you, then go ahead and upgrade. It's the same hardware and same drivers, therefore it should all be the same, right?
  80. eviltone

    eviltone Network Guru Member

    I'm jsut saying, if you're looking for concrete numbers, then you're out of luck.

    all i can tell you, since you're asking... the AC66u is WORLDS better with my laptop (Killer 1200 NIC) than it is with an E4200. Both routers are running the latest Victek.
    Now... the biggest difference I can tell you is.. the E4200 is MUCH more susceptible to interference.
    I cant be comfortable giving you my numbers for the different versions on the AC66U. The one thing I will say is, you should TOTALLY try out both Victek's and the Rmerlin firmwares. There are distinct advantages to both. I like that Rmerlin gets his stuff DIRECTLY from Asus, but I also like the way Victek's firmware runs. I no longer have an AC66U to fart around with. It was put into service at a friends house, where he runs 2 of them. one as a main router with wireless... another as a wired switch with wireless.
    I can tell you this, the damn AC66U runs great with Victek for him. The wireless is strong thru the floor from the basement to the living room (Chromecast gets full bars on the basement SSID) and the Living room to the Upstairs Access Point AC66U is pretty good as well -- going thru a floor and a few more walls (Gets all but 2 bars).
    Now, if I am outside on his patio with my laptop. I can get 4 bars on the Basement, and 3 bars from the upstairs (the basement one is closer to the patio)
    I wish I had screenshots to show you of Xirrus and Inssider.

    Anyways -- Jsut take your time and test both Victek's and Rmerlin's firmwares, and see what works for you in your environment....
  81. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    you seem like your scared to claim that the wifi is even equal to or better. so i dont think im gonna bother. if it was any better people would say so. not trying to cover there ass incase its not better lol. thx though. still wondering if tomato uses miniupnpd for upnp?
  82. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    its not the same drivers, or atleast thats my assumption as im fairly sure its not. before dd-wrt was horrible with wifi and a big waste of my time. they claimed that the 2.4 and 5gHz was working good for everything but AC. but it wasnt. it just plain sucked. horrible.

    if it is the same wifi drivers. it would be nice for Victek to verify this, or to have some daily RT-AC66U users who have done some wifi testing on tomato RAF vs Tomato Shibby vs Merlin WRT. i want to use shibby but i paid for this router for the wireless. and at no cost do i wanna make my wireless worse. sometimes i have upto 10 clients on 5GHz and about 5 on 2.4. the 2.4 and 5GHz range and stability are whats important to me. throughput aswell. but not as much as range and stability.
  83. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    yes and 15 mins with 8 wifi users cut off. im patient and would rather learn what im doing and do it right then go back and fourth. i hate running into last minute issues. but i am thinking i might do this soon. possibly tonight

    99% chance if i go with tomato. i will choose RAF first. but are shibby and RAF my only options. or are there toastman/teaman/ or other builds i cant find for RT-AC66U.
  84. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    You should do at least some minimal research. Tomato has long used Asus Broadcom drivers and binaries. RT-AC66U builds are no different.

    Tomato does not always have the same revision as the latest asus build, but generally that is a good thing. Asus drivers can vary in performance and range from one release to the next. A new driver is generally not brought over to Tomato until there is a general consensus it is a good release.
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  85. eviltone

    eviltone Network Guru Member

    I'm not scared to claim. I know the featureset in Victek's and Rmerlin's are better than the Asus stock.
    I do believe Rmerlin's wifi is different than Victeks, if I remember correctly.
    Either way, what works for "me" wont necessarily be the same for you. That is why you need to try them out yourself. I can say that I did think Victek's Firmware was running a little "leaner", and even though I know Victek doesnt have the CTF that I remember Rmerlin's having (because he bases his off of stock ASUSWrt), It wasn't that big of an issue on the clients, really.
    The biggest thing is, the iPhone sucked ass on all three. Victek's, Rmerlin's and Asus'. Tested with an iPhone5, and an iPhone4. My Galaxy Note II seemed to be better with Victek's, but it wasn't night and day. My laptop was the Same with both Victek's and Rmerlin's, which was a tad better than the stock Asus. If I remember correctly, Rmerlin is using an older set than the latest Asus.

    I'm about done here with this, as you're seemingly being combative about this. I'm just trying to help, but cant tell you definitively which will work best in your locale. At my buddy's place, he has very little other wireless SSID's (from neighbors), whereas my location has like 50+ other SSID's (from neighbors).

    Only other big thing here is, I had to spend a metric assload of time finding a channel that was good in my area when I had the AC66U. Once I found one that worked with the minimal interference(using my laptop with inssider and Xirrus), I know I couldn't set the 2.4 width to 40 or 80, with either Stock, Vicktek, or Rmerlin. I had to settle for a 20 width.

    Also.... AC66U > E4200 (I know I said that before. I'm still using an E4200 -- as I traded the AC66U to him for another E4200 and a power supply for my desktop).
  86. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    if you have tested it plz provide numbers or facts. thats all. im asking about wifi range and throughput. nothing else. it shouldnt be hard. also. i get 25-30mbit down on my iphone 4 when im 3-4 feet from the router. other then that the iphone connection can be crappy but usually sits around 10-15mbit. when it gets bad its like 1-3mbit. on my iPhone 5 i get 80mbit down @what the router indicates is about 60dBm. even at about 80dbm i get 15-30mbit down. sometimes more.

    isnt the whole point of these expensive routers wifi? and almost no one has numbers,facts, or seems to care about the wifi performance? this what worries me that all the people on tomato are just fanboys and what the wifi isnt actually very good, but they don't care.

    i would appreciate an honest unbiased comparison with numbers and facts plz.
  87. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    Honestly, I have a E4200 running tomato Victek, WRT320 running Tomato USB old but it works, I have a RT-AC66U that I have tried, Shibby 115/116, TomatoEgg, advance tomato, When Merlin puts a new build up I always put that on to test WIFI, Performance Games, I cant have my wife be unhappy with here Galaxy 4 or her old Kindle, I personally test wifi with my Iphone 5 (Hate it limited on Wifi Anaylizer) I only can test the range with Iphone out to my mail box 50 ft way, while my RT-ac66 sits in side the basement. if I can stay connected then I am happy, because, my wife can get the mail and stay connect, (which makes me happy). as far as performance I have not numbers; long as she can download with kindle/Phone/Laptop all is good, when she says I get dropped or disconnected or slow, its time to change. a Happy wife makes me happy.
    My kids hate lag while playing games, I hate it when they tell me that there game is lagging, or slow. But yes I test every build Merlin or asus puts out, Stock and merlins builds are ok, I have to have parental controls so my kids goto bed at 3:00am. Wireless coverage for wife, Performance for kids while playing games. doing homework etc..
    I also test IPV6.

    My favorites are as follows not in order
    Stock .270 OLD
    Stock .726
    Merlin 374.35_2
    TomatoEgg .59
    Victek 1.2x
    Shibby 115

    With Tomato I am using Victek, those others are good but I noticed a few things I didn't like with each one.
    Victek I think he focus more on stable and performance.

    They are all good, I think it comes down to few things that you might like or dislike.
    With the RT-AC66 you are limited with tomato, Shibby, Victek, TomatoEgg built on Shibby, you cant go wrong with either.
    I can go on and on with each build of Stock/Merlin in whats broken, Sometimes I feel I play router roulette with builds Stock/merlin, but with Tomato I noticed it works, If you install it on the RT-AC66U there is one catch, after install you have to erase Nvram via Advance settings, once it comes up you might not see your 5ghz radio, depends on the Rev of your RT-Ac66. then you will have to go into your advance wireless settings and select country code to EU, then Save and reboot, make sure if you live in the US put it back to US in the advance setting of both radio's 2.4 and 5g. then your good to go configure the rest of your settings;
    Hope this helps;

    Sorry about so long spell check and English.
  88. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    I don't see the point of the "fanboy" comment. Most of the members here also use other proprietary and FOSS firmware.

    What you are looking for is not as easy or straightforward as you make it out to be. As others have said above, you need to do your homework on the issue.

    1) None of the third party firmware are likely to improve your wireless coverage or wireless throughput. It may be the same, it may be worse, but it is unlikely to be better. Tomato uses the same drivers as stock Asus firmware. Conversely some of Asus' code had its roots in Tomato. RMerlin's firmware is an interesting option in between.

    2) "Range" depends on all the factors listed in the responses above and more, and is often more dependent on the client device than on the router. You iPhones are a great example.

    3) Wireless throughput is extremely erratic, varying by orders of magnitude (literally) depending on a multitude of factors. Thorough testing takes weeks. This situation will continue to deteriorate as the wireless spectrum becomes increasingly polluted.

    4) Tests of wireless throughput that you read on review sites (which I'm guessing is how your demands were born) are unreliable for the reasons listed above. They may provide a ballpark estimate of relative performance, but the numbers are meaningless.

    5) You should not flash different firmware unless you either enjoy testing and tinkering or your are trying to solve a specific problem. If you are trying to solve a specific problem, then choose the firmware that has the feature set you are looking for. If there is no problem, then leave it alone.

    6) You should not flash firmware if you are not willing to read/research the issue or if you are not willing to risk bricking the router. If you are not willing to read, learn, experiment, learn, fix, and learn some more, then you should not be tinkering with your router.
  89. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    ok. so your essentially saying you havnt noticed any major differences in wifi im assuming? and just curious, how fast is your internet?

    if you could run lan speedtest to some wifi clients over 5GHz and possibly 2.4GHz that would be appreciated.

    your staying on Victek 1.2x cause u like it the most im assuming? or thats what you would like to use. have you tried or the 38_2, 38_4 variants? im currently using the original

    also just curious. would i have to set it back to US region. would that cause problems? or would it allow me to move my router to other unpopulated 5GHz bands. my neighboors have this 5GHz telus wifi STB popping up. and i am fearing more popping up.... luckily that is only the second or third 5GHz network i have seen though.
  90. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    the logic that the stock firmware could be better for wifi, but not worse. doesnt make sense. which is essentially what you said saying its unlikely to be better.

    i disagree that its more dependent on a good client. i think the exact oposite. but i fully acknowledge how much better wifi cards and other hardware can make. i still think in order to fully utilize these cards. you need to start with a good router. simply because the bottleneck should NEVER be the router. but always the device connecting.

    personally i disagree. almost never have i had erratic 5GHz results and poor 2.4 results will always be due to so much interference (not just from other routers obviously)

    im very happy with my firmware. all i want is better nas performance. better ddos protection (which tomato is very unlikely to solve). better wifi. and better throughput with CTF (HW acceleration) disabled. because i am a QOS user. i get 107mbit down and i can only get 92-96mbps with merlins latest firmware.

    if i could get full 107mbit down. and or be able to properly limit my download to like 70-80mbit( in order to avoid bufferbloat completely).

    also with merlin firmware it will not limit my download no matter what i set it to. it cant handle the speed. merlin said he only expects his QOS to work upto about 50mbit
  91. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    Yes I tried or still trying 374.38.2 it's good have an issue with USB on the overview screen not showing it's mounted but it is, so I will be going back to tomato 1.2x this week so yea I tried it, also I don't like how the parental controls work you tell it turn off at 3:00am but long as they stay connected in chat or an active connection it will not shut them off
    So back to tomato oh for my backup router if your wondering is a linksys EA6400 I live tinkering and getting the most of router that I can. Either it be performance, wifi or what ever, I am not a fanboy of either I just like all functions to work as advertised from marketing so far Asus has not been able to do that example ipv6 broken parental controls don't work , beam forming never has been implemented in stock firmware Merlin is doing a great job he has fixed lots of stuff already which asus can't


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    Last edited: Jan 30, 2014
  92. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    It really amazes me how some people will not abide by the rules.

    To all users I have had several complaints of individual users in this thread abusing the rules. if you cannot abide by these you are not welcome here and I will ban you.

    now read the rules:


    Thank you.
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  93. Elfew

    Elfew Addicted to LI Member

    stock firmware is really unstable under heavy usage (tested last asus fw and merlin fw) in our company... 60+ connected clients = no problem for tomato, but with asus fw it is unstable and useless. my two cent
  94. krum09

    krum09 Networkin' Nut Member

    What version are you running ?
  95. xhenon

    xhenon Serious Server Member

    Hi guys,

    Can I use a config backup from my 1.2v to 1.2x in Asus RT-N16?

    I know that normally is necesary do an erase of NVRAM but I readed that sometimes is not necesary.

  96. fubdap

    fubdap Addicted to LI Member

    You can try it, but if you start having issues, then you have to do NVRAM erase and configure by hand.
  97. xhenon

    xhenon Serious Server Member

    Ok, I'll try.


    Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 mediante Tapatalk
  98. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    so i tried upgrading to tomatoRAF last night. it didnt work. no matter what i did . 5GHz would not pop up on my RT-AC66U. i cleared nvram and rebooted like 5 times. flashed tomato shibby 1.28. cleared nvram. rebooted. boom it worked. could anyone tell me why the 5GHz doesnt work with tomato RAF or how to get it to work
  99. eviltone

    eviltone Network Guru Member

    when that happens..... you need to set your country to EU --- there is a command for that, i believe.. I've seen it discussed here before... If I can, I will assist you in locating it. But once you set your locale to EU, and reboot, the 5ghz will show, then you can set the country to wherever you are, and it'll stay (and you reboot). It sometimes happens with Shibby as well... Stay tuned for an update if i find a thread with the command.
  100. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Serious Server Member

    ok thank you. i seen this in shibby's video where he said to switch it back to US so he must have defaulted it to go to EU.

    now im trying to find motivation to go from shibby 1.28 to RAF 1.2X. what will the differences be? im not really using to much complicated stuff. but i plan on trying a VPN provider soon.

    and another thing. when i enabled QOS. there was insane lag on xbox. but i havnt put time into trying to solve that yet as im playing with the rest of the firmware. so i have just left QOS off for now. but on shibby i have no had good QOS experience so far

    also, can i simply upgrade to RAF from the upgrade tab in tomato. thats what i did to go to RAF to shibby lol. still wanna make sure its the right thing to do though, im asssuming i should clear nvram before and after aswell.

    i also had another problem

    i would change settings and the router would 100% randomly drop the connection and then not pull another ip. it would just keep trying. after about a day of being confused i realized its cause im running 6 dif icmp pings 24/7 via a pc.

    1 to my router
    1 to my modem (bridge)
    1 to my other router with my other public ip. (for some reason this is showing up as a vlan in tomato)
    1 to my cmts
    1 to google
    1 to my switch.

    just running these pings. the router would loose connection for 2-10 minutes. then randomly grab it back. then i realized the second i stopped the pings. it came back. everytime. should i change icmp max in firewall or does that not matter?
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2014

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