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Tomato support for ASUS RT-N16 ???

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by though, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. though

    though Network Guru Member

    i believe this is going to be a BIG TIME router when it becomes widely available in the states. $99 with specs through the roof, not to mention removeable antennas! will tomato work with this router? i've used dd-wrt for years and have recently made the switch to tomato. i am NOT going back to dd.....

    thanks
     
  2. greenythebeast

    greenythebeast LI Guru Member

    Specs:
    CPU: Broadcom BCM4718 533MHZ (looks like it might actually be a 4716 according to those who have received one)
    RAM: 128MB (2x 64MB)
    ROM: 32MB
    ETH: 4x GIGABIT (LAN) 1x GIGABIT (WAN)
    USB Ports: 2
    WLAN: 2.4ghz Radio N

    From http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=19629
     
  3. though

    though Network Guru Member

    excellent link, thank you. any possibility that tomato will be working on this anytime soon? does tomato work on ANY N routers?
     
  4. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    There is as yet very little real information on this router. Some of that which is published on the ASUS forum seems to be in conflict with the specifications we've seen.

    What happened to the 533MHz processor? Anyone know the reason for the 238.59 Bogomips above ?

    BCM4716 reported, 4718 onboard ???

    Also seems like the original firmware is, as usual, sadly lacking in several areas.
     
  5. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    Just saw the first Newegg review for the ASUS RT-N16, even though they don't have them in stock currently.

    Reviewed By: Slacker on 10/22/2009
    Rating 4 out of 5
    Tech Level Tech Level: somewhat high - Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
    This user purchased this item from Newegg
    Pros:
    ----
    CPU: Broadcom BCM4718 533MHZ (best from class)
    RAM: 128MB (2x 64MB)
    ROM: 32MB
    ETH: 4x GIGABIT (LAN) 1x GIGABIT (WAN)
    USB Ports: 2
    WLAN: Dual Radio N (20 and 40MHz)
    Web interface has been completely reconfigured for easier navigating. Support NTFS and EXT4 file systems.
    Uses Linux 2.6 kernel
    Removable/replaceable antennas.

    Cons:
    -----
    No open source firmware yet, and probably not for a couple months
    Other Thoughts: Wish it was also dual band. The chipset supports it, but Asus included only one dual radio...
     
  6. Azuse

    Azuse LI Guru Member

  7. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    FYI, just checked the Newegg ASUS RT-N16 product page, now says ETA:11/10/2009.

    A side note which might not be appropriate to post here but what the hay. I was just reading over on the dd-wrt broadcom forum that a RT-N16 has already been bought and shipped (donated) to Eko for dd-wrt development.
     
  8. though

    though Network Guru Member

    that rocks, but wish tomato was all over it as well :\
     
  9. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    I've got one on the way, wasn't gonna bother as I wanted something dual band but my Buffalo HP died on me so for the price difference I went with the Asus.

    Supposed to have quiet good range so I've read.

    Now I'm just hoping Teddy Bear will release something for it as I've heard there's a Tomato with a 2.6 linux kernel brewing ;).
     
  10. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Ahhhh, bliss ......
     
  11. though

    though Network Guru Member

    where did you get the RT-N16 from?

    when can we expect it to be tomato compatible? im all over it when it is!


     
  12. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    I ordered it from here after some good feed back from the DD WRT forum.

    I'm in Spain and with shipping it worked out to $104 which is a very good price, that is if I don't get charged more tax at customs.

    Hurry there's only 4 left.......

    About Tomato support, no idea, just heard that a Tomato with linux 2.6 kernel might be around the corner so there's hope.
     
  13. though

    though Network Guru Member

    damn, i would buy 6 units to swap out old linksys units in a heartbeat if there was a tomato firmware available :\
     
  14. Rafatk

    Rafatk Network Guru Member

  15. Azuse

    Azuse LI Guru Member

    It can be installed on that because netgear built it specifically for open source, but tomato doesn't do gigabit or n so it's just a g router with more cpu & ram really.

    Factor in the built in ftp/bt clients, the upnp media server in the RT-N16 and the fact that the beta firmware (apparently) is a big improvement over the shipping one and it's alot of time and work for anyone to port it over.

    Anyway asus doesn't seem to be in a hurry to distribute them, so dd-wrt on it long before tomato.
     
  16. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    Anyone wanting a RT-N16 might be interested that Provantage has it listed for $34.80(US plus shipping). Just found out about it & already out of stock but states still taking "special orders" to ship directly from Asus. Tried to get one anyway. Figure chances are it won't ship but worth a shot.

    *Update - just saw it's back to "not currently available" so deal is probably over but might be worth checking back as the status has gone back & forth a bit this weekend already so might come back.
     
  17. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    The Netgear WNR3500L was relatively easily supported because it still has MIPS processor architecture. This also looks like an interesting router! Since it uses the same processor family as the ASUS I hope this means that we will soon have tomato running on both. Since the source code is also available, it's possible that Jon/Teddy Bear/Victek will add it to their list of supported routers, as far as it goes. I'd be quite happy with just a faster processor, and more memory, even if the full monty is not supported.

    The author of the Netgear firmware is available in this forum https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=22016
    A description of the firmware is here http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/14430/How-To-Install-Tomato-Firmware-on-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/

    The WNDR3700 is the top model. But Atheros 9002 series chipset and the Atheros AR7161 CPU at 680MHz ? But something going on that has delayed the launch.

    http://www.myopenrouter.com/forum/thread/14129/Why-not-WNDR3700L-instead
     
  18. though

    though Network Guru Member

    WDS -- 3 antennas ?!?!?

    i run a WDS system with 2 buildings that are about 2 blocks away from each other. i currently am using 2 buffalo routers with external antennas plugged in and it works flawlessly.

    i see this has 3 antennas so would there be any problems plugging the external antenna into 1 of the antenna jacks only on each end? why are there 3 and would there be any problems if i do it this way?

    thanks
     
  19. horhe

    horhe Addicted to LI Member

    I've see this router in our local markets here in Manila... Really is a tempting buy! :-D Can't wait for Tomato to support it!
     
  20. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    though

    Since no-one has replied. My guess is that plugging in your external antennas would be fine, the router will choose them as the best ones to use and the diversity switching will take care of it without you needing to do anything. Google MIMO for an explanation of what the antennas do.

    horhe

    Send me one ..... drool ...
     
  21. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    FYI, just checked the Newegg ASUS RT-N16 product page which shows in stock for $99.99 with free shipping for anyone who wants on and isn't stuck waiting for a provantage order like me. Maybe this bodes well for my order to ship, we'll see.

    *Update, OOS again, I had one in my cart earlier though.
     
  22. though

    though Network Guru Member

    i sure hope you're right toastman!

    i'll definitely be trying it :)


     
  23. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    FYI, Eko, DD-WRT dev, just barely after getting an RT-N16, apparently already has DD-WRT running on it, linux version 2.6.24.111.
     
  24. though

    though Network Guru Member

    i seen that as well. does this have any relevance to tomato support? i sure as hell hope so!!!!
     
  25. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    It may not be relevant, was actually thinking I'm on thin ice posting it here, but like you I am hopeful.
     
  26. though

    though Network Guru Member

    the fact of the matter is that the RT-N16 is an amazing router. if tomato support comes, it would be a great day. if dd is the only 3rd party firmware that will work on it, i'll be forced to go back to the darkside...
     
  27. ghostknife

    ghostknife Addicted to LI Member

  28. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    Yup, tune in here for the latest or if you are lucky enough to already have a RT-N16 and want to give it a test drive. Looks like it's not bad for an initial release. But it IS an initial release, and an amazingly quick one at that so it's not surprising that there are some problems. Also it's the 2.6 kernel version which is relatively new and has issues which will be inherited. I'm still anxiously awaiting my RT-N16 and want to try it and I've read decent reports about the Asus firmware as well so looking forward to trying that as well.
     
  29. though

    though Network Guru Member

    what's the timeframe for a tomato firmware releases????
     
  30. phuque99

    phuque99 LI Guru Member

    very likely there won't be any at all.
     
  31. though

    though Network Guru Member

    what makes you believe so? this router has the ability to be the new 'standard' overtaking the the buffalo units and the Linksys WRT54GL....


     
  32. phuque99

    phuque99 LI Guru Member

    the lack of developer response or even any code that works a single wifi-N router. Feel free to search for the "pony up a WRT610N" thread :cool:
     
  33. Azuse

    Azuse LI Guru Member

    The 2.6 kernel has been available from asus for afew months and dd-wrt/openwrt has only just got an initial release out the door, and they have a much larger pool of people to work on it.

    At the end of the day, the wrt routers are becoming quite dated, manufactures are finally producing more powerful routers so it's days are limited. If no one does work on the 2.6 kernel, and i'll completely understand, then people will simply have to use whatever alternative there is. Although I think it's fair to say for most home users tomato is infinitely superior, therefore preferred, to dd-wrt.
     
  34. gingernut

    gingernut LI Guru Member

    You guys don't have to go to far and only read what Teddy Bear and some others are working on with him.

    He already has a 2.6 kernel Tomato firmware compiled that he is testing.
     
  35. though

    though Network Guru Member

    if they make it available for the RT-N16 at some point, i would be grateful :D


     

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