Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Odin-60, Jul 11, 2007.
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With google translate I was able to get a basic understanding of the conversation. They like Tomato better than DD-WRT except(as we all know) Tomato lacks some of the extras... but as we in Tomato comunity know is that extra's have there price...
I myself have been able to compensate for the lack of extras by putting services(the extras) on my Windows PC and forward the ports as required... ftp/remote/utorrent web/etc. and this way the router performance is not lost, but the traffic/activities are still available...
I don't think we are saying DD-WRT is a bad firmware... if you need the extras, you will have to use it(DD)... (of course there are more flavours of Tomato be released)
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I found the response time using DD-wrt was quite slow, and some pages would not refresh the first time. I switched to Tomato for the throughput graphs and Tomato give me everything else I need and it is noticeably more responsive on its page loads.
I dropped DD-WRT because of the multiple reboots it needed when altering the slightest of settings... It almost looked Windows-based to me! :angry:
Here a bit more "dd-wrt vs tomato"
I dropped using DD-WRT because I had problems with random reboots on my wireless routers. I had used it since early v20, and noticed as of late it is sacrificing stability for features. If you need features you should use DD-WRT, if not find something smaller.
I dropped DD-WRT because my rooter rebooted if I was speaking on my IP phone, and I got a second incoming call.
dd-wrt v23 has been extremely stable, at this point it has been up longer then tomato, my only issue with dd-wrt currently is rip does not function as it should. Last time i looked dd-wrt was up 100 days and tomato was at 67 and that was about 2 weeks ago. Both have been extremely stable, though i have heard of many issues with v24.
my wrt never survived beyond 14 days on either firmware, though i've heard that this is due to the wireless driver. -shrugs- lotsa wireless devices in my house
My uptime with Tomato is currently:
Time Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:25:05 -0300
Uptime 75 days, 07:24:00
CPU Load (1 / 5 / 15 mins) 0.00 / 0.00 / 0.00
Total / Free Memory 14.20
(Not a heavily loaded machine, about 8 users)
Never a problem, always worked.. I am very pleased with Tomato...
I was a long time user of DD-WRT. It worked great! But I have a very simple setup with 2 wireless and 2 wired computers. One thing I was always annoyed with DD-WRT was how long it took to register a wireless computer.
I installed Tomato just to try something new. The first thing I noticed is that Tomato registers new connections MUCH MUCH faster than DD-WRT. Since I have a simple setup and don't need all the extra features of DD-WRT, I've decided to stay with Tomato.
One thing I do miss about DD-WRT is the schedule reboot option. Other than that, I'm very satisfied with Tomato.
Thank you DD-WRT and Tomato for providing us with great alternatives.
Toronto can do schedule reboot by script,
try search the forum & you will find it.....!
I am running DD-WRT 23sp2 with no issues. Once configured it runs fine. I really like some of the features but the config can be a bit of a pain. I would say if you do not need some of the features, Tomato is for you. Both work great, much better than stock. The beauty of all this is we have a bunch of firware to choose from so pick the flavor that works best for your setup/needs.
Search is a wonderful tool
The things i realy miss is dhcp-forwarder and overclocking. I was the person who tell the dd-wrt dev to add overclocking. After some time it was inside. It would be nice to see that in tomato too.
i believe overclocking is possible via a nvram setting. saw it somewhere in these forums b4.. just can't remember it
Indeed, it works with no problem at all. It's just not in the GUI (which is not such a bad thing IMO - I don't think it's wise to allow people who don't know what they're doing to play around with overclocking, because it's a dangerous game to play).
The nvram variable is clkfreq. Valid values are given in the link below.
From the above line I need to execute the following to overclock my unit:
nvram set clkfreq=228
Question is where do I execute this?
Using Telnet...I login using Putty(you can Google it).
Assuming you are using a WRT54G, I'd start off at 216 and see how you like it.
I've found that all overclocking does is make my router hot.
I ran @228 when I was using DD-WRT with no issues.
I am using a WRT54GL 1.1 and tried DD-WRT V23 SP2, SP3 and V24 Beta all gave me same problems Wireless Dropped time after time. Often could not use PPPoE and lots of difficulties connecting with MSN Messenger. None of the above seen yet using Tomato 1.07 (I use Two notebooks with XP Proff, One Mac Book Pro on OS 10.4.10 and HP MedialVault).
I recently switched my network to ddwrt24, and also a friend's network. I was previously running tomato, and didn't remember what the tcp timeout settings were, but my router would randomly reboot every few days. That said, I never had an aim issue though.
With ddwrt, I'm at 600s tcp timeout and aim is still dropping out frequently. Thinking of going back again. I loved how tomato didn't reset connections for most changes applied. In ddwrt, wireless / connections get reset often with just slight changes.
I'm sure Tomato is great, but it doesn't support a lot of routers so far. I actually wanted to use Tomato rather than dd-wrt but it's not compatible with my router so I can't .
the source is based on a kernel tree which you can replace/adapt to any other device that use mips/2 processor or any other kind but you'll have to reconfigure all the packages manually to use different processor architecture.
you can download the source and adapt Tomato yourself...
Sounds like a project and a half! I've got school on though, about 3 more months and I'm done with High school might give it a shot after that if it hasn't been done by then
I run Tomato because DD-WRT's money mixing with GPL sounds unholy to me
I paid for the ddwrt special version, now I think it was wrong and I should have donate it to the tomato guys (but they will get some soon, too).
If you know how to, configuration of dd-wrt isn't that bad, but the QOS was killing me. It never run like it should and the hole thing was a little bit "slow".
I also got some problems with the usb core because it always killed my printer after a time and I had to walk 3 floors downstairs to turn it back on.
All in all it is definitely a good firmware but tomato is better :biggrin:
Tomato is super fast and teddy_bear made it possible to use USB on a WL500gP.
Now everythink is like I wanted :hearts:
Tomato is the best. I tried almost every firmware. I use Tomato!