Tomato vs. OpenWRT/X-Wrt

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by yaqui, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. yaqui

    yaqui LI Guru Member

    I have recently begun looking at using OpenWRT and the webif of X-WRT seeing how it allows you to run lighttpd.

    Plus it seems to have alot more "add-ins" available.

    Has anyone here tried OpenWRT/X-Wrt ?? What are your opinions of it versus using Tomato? Is there truly alot more flexibility or just added complexity/confusion? :)
  2. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    X-WRT is great and highly customizable but Tomato's QOS routines are the best I've come across.
    I like the fact that I can easily customize the build myself to suite my needs...
    it's something I could have done with X-WRT as well but Tomato's inner workings are fairy simple so you can easily add/remove features.
    but it all depend on what is it you want to achieve from your router if you can elaborate a little maybe I could help you more...
    I got my X-WRT running on a old P-III as a router so my experience is a little bit different from the normal WRT54G usage...
    and I use my WRT54GL with Tomato...

  3. MiseryQ

    MiseryQ Network Guru Member

    I tried X-WRT for awhile and went back to Tomato. I really can't recall why right now.
    It's quite good.
  4. jlaase

    jlaase Network Guru Member

    I also used X-WRT for a while and found myself back at Tomato. I find that if you need a reliable firewall, good QoS and not much else then Tomato is the way to go. My firewall has been up for over 50 days and is still going. I have not seen any slow downs or performance issues. As far as the QoS, it has a nice easy way to set up rules and then you can quickly go into the graphs and see if your rules are working as expected.

    I also love the fact that you can save bandwidth history.

    If you need more that this, such as a VPN or any other IPKG package. Tomato is not going to give this to you. OpenWRT and X-WRT are going to let you customize to your hearts content.


    Yes, I know that there is a variant of Tomato out there that now runs VPN software but I perfer to stick with the base install
  5. LakeSolon

    LakeSolon LI Guru Member

    Before there was a handy WRTSL54GS.bin for Tomato, I used to run OpenWRT "White Russian" (RC5 IIRC). I'm sure they've made usability improvements since then, but the two firmwares are two totally different philosophies.

    In my experience, OpenWRT is very much more like an almost normal Linux box (circa 2001) that has a default install setup for a router role. It's much more flexible and you can do lots of stuff with it that Tomato could do but probably never will.

    However, with freedom/power comes great confusion/responsibilty ;)

    If you want to make a hobby of playing with your router, go with OpenWRT. You'll never run out of things to tinker with. One guy even uses his SL's USB port to drive a stereo with a USB-Audio dongle.

    I decided I really just wanted a router after all. If I only open the web interface every couple of weeks (if that), spend 5 minutes configuring something, and then forget about it for another couple of weeks: that's my ideal.

    I don't see myself switching back to OpenWRT.

    P.S. With Regard To (heh, gotta be careful with that acronym in this community) QoS: I actually spent a couple evenings reading up on various QoS algorithms, deciphering the QoS scripts being used in OpenWRT at the time. Testing and tweaking. It was great fun and I'm glad I learned what I did. When I switched to Tomato I was ready to spend another weekend tweaking my QoS, but had it working better in 15 minutes than I ever had OpenWRT working. I haven't looked into how Tomato does its QoS, but at the moment I don't care either ;)
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