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WDS E3000 Victek's Tomato

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by jsmiddleton4, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Need some help.

    1. Have dual bands now so can setup 2 WDS channels. How? What is the best way to configure? Same SSID for both bands/channels?

    2. What about security? WPA Personal, tkip, aes, ???
     
  2. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    When I enable WPA in AES mode the speed indicator for 5 ghz band goes from 300/290 to 6/6 ?

    Using beta that Victek referenced in the other thread.
     
  3. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    had to turn off all security on both channels. i'm not doing something right.
     
  4. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Still tweaking but think I have it. Can only do WDS on one frequency, SSID and WPA pass codes have to be the same for both frequencies. Now have router to router connection at N speeds, VUDU testing on my home theater equipment now fast enough to do 3D HDX mode as its near hard wired to the modem now instead of WDS setup, all laptops getting on at G speeds, we don't have any N speed laptops yet, and it is secure with WPA.

    Still playing but near success here....
     
  5. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Anyone have a FAQ, etc., for WDS and the new dual mode routers with Tomato?
     
  6. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Or Wireless Bridge setup using the 5hz channel?

    Its a bit confusing with the various options.
     
  7. TexasFlood

    TexasFlood Network Guru Member

    You've got quite the thread going here, all by yourself, heh.

    I'd help if I could but only just got one router, a WRT320N, capable of 5GHz and it's not dual band capable but selectable. So there is really not a lot I can do to help or test but appreciate you posting your results for reference as it might come in handy in future.
     
  8. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Yes, I noticed. With simultaneous dual band, its not Kansas anymore Toto. Seems to me with WDS or WET modes I want the routers to talk to each other on the 5ghz channel, yes? If I have mixed, like an older WRT54G and an E3000 that is a different matter. You have to use the 2.4ghz channel. So setup is not the straightforward WDS FAQ on Tomato's web site when moving to these dual channel, simultaneous dual channel, routers.

    I stumbled around like a Neanderthal last night to figure out a working setup. I have no confidence it is maximized. As more folks like myself move to routers like the E3000 we will need a step by step guide. Some dual channel Tomato guru's input would be most valued.

    It might be entirely possible to have two distinct WDS/WET type configs IF you have enough 5ghz devices to make it worthwhile. I'm not sure. As it is now the 54ghz channel are AP's so all laptops and 54ghz devices can connect all over the house, home theater stuff connected wired to LAN ports on "slave" router, routers talking to each other for the WDS stuff via 5Ghz with the 5Ghz channels being setup at AP+WDS just in case we get a 5ghz/N device.

    I'd like to play with WET modes but when its working, you know the rest of that....

    Edit: It also seems to me the WDS feature is a bit buggy. Not being a coder and not able to do anything with the firmware I want to be careful about saying too much but the WDS stuff does not seem quite right yet.
     
  9. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Just found out with the current firmware to do WDS its easier if you keep both channels on 40hz.
     
  10. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Have been up and running for some time. Problem was setting 2.4 channel to 20hz and 5 channel to 40. The two routers lost their WDS minds in that scenario.

    Once set all channels to 40hz, everything working fine.

    Have the 5ghz channel SSID different than the 2.4 ghz SSID so that the two routers talk to each other on the 5ghz band/channel and keep other traffic off of the router to router channel.

    Everything that can be set to Auto is in the basic config. One channel on high side band, one on low.

    I still don't know how things are suppose to work and if using 20hz should work and its a bug. What I do know is connection is stable, speed is way up for streaming video to home theater setup, laptops with "N" protocols on at way faster speeds than with the WRT54G's.

    As one would expect.

    The simultaneous dual channels just might be THE setup for people with home theater setups needed internet access but no easy access for wired LAN.
     
  11. ncvaun

    ncvaun Networkin' Nut Member

    jsmiddleton4,

    I am a little confused... i am trying to do the same thing, i have 2 E3000's that i have connected via WDS only on the 5ghz freq. i am experiencing the same issues, very spotty coverage, drops signal, etc. i currently leave my 2.4ghz freq. at B/G (which means i cant select 40 mhz, its only allowing for 20). so if i read your thread correctly, you are broadcasting 2 - N frequencies; one is only for your backbone between the two routers and the other is for all wireless connections? what channels are you using? can you send me a picture of your current settings? thanks in advance.
     
  12. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Once I configured mine so it worked its been totally stable and very good coverage throughout my home.
     
  13. ncvaun

    ncvaun Networkin' Nut Member

    Hi jsmiddleton4,

    can you please send me some pictures or text on how your configuration is setup? thank you in advance.
     
  14. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Here's my slave. Master same except MAC is of the Slave. I use two different SSID's for each channel.

    Wireless (2.4 GHz / eth1)
    Enable Wireless
    MAC Address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
    Wireless Mode: Access Point
    Wireless Network Mode: Auto
    SSID "YYYYY"
    Broadcast "Checked"
    Channel: "I use 9"
    Channel Width: 40 mhz
    Control Sideband: Upper
    Security: WPA Personal
    Encryption: AES
    Shared Key "Password"
    Group Key Renewal: 3600(seconds)

    Wireless (5 GHz / eth2)
    Enable Wireless
    MAC Address: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
    Wireless Mode: Access Point+WDS
    Wireless Network Mode: Auto
    SSID "YYYY1"
    Broadcast: Checked
    Channel: "I use 60-5.300ghz"
    Channel Width: 40 mhz
    Control Sideband: Lower
    Security: WPA Personal
    Encryption: AES
    Shared Key: "Password"
    Group Key Renewal: 3600(seconds)
    WDS: Link with:
    MAC Address: MAC of main master router
     
  15. ncvaun

    ncvaun Networkin' Nut Member

    thank you!!

    so you use auto for the wireless mode, thats how you can use channel widths of 40 each. Ill try that. also another question, i want use the 5ghz wireless band for the backbone of my two routers, and i only have it selected to WDS, not AP+WDS. i dont want anyone sharing that bandwidth? does this make sense and do you think it will work?
     
  16. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    You can try it. Works fine the way I have it setup so I've learned to not mess with success.
     
  17. ncvaun

    ncvaun Networkin' Nut Member

    i tried the auto and it kept dropping the signal. i had this working perfectly for about 6 months (ie: 5ghz-N band as backbone only; 2.4ghz - B/G as AP on both routers) until the other day i had to move some furniture in my office and disconnected my Comcast connection and my main router. after that, my 2nd router couldn't connect to the main one, and if it did, the speed was ridiculously slow. My main issue is why was it working perfectly fine for me for so long, then when my main router and Comcast router was unplugged for about 30 minutes, then reconnected ... now im having all these problems. I have Comcast phone and internet so i have a required modem provided by them.

    btw, thanks for all your assistance. its much appreciated.
     
  18. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Did you reboot both routers?

    If not reboot the slave, then the master, let them "find" themselves again.
     
  19. ncvaun

    ncvaun Networkin' Nut Member

    oh yes, I rebooted them several times...
     
  20. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    I banged mine quite a bit to get to those settings above. Slow and stuttering performance when tried 20hz, not using "Auto", etc. Make sure you disable any wireless security settings until you get the connection solid. Then turn them on and re-enter passwords, etc.
     
  21. Mr.Anderson

    Mr.Anderson Networkin' Nut Member

    Is it possible to daisy chain E3000 in wds mode??
    ex. E3000 -----> E3000(2) -----> E3000(3)
    I'm having problems getting the E3000(3), working with E3000(2). I'm not getting to the gateway on E3000, seems like DHCP works. I cannot ping E3000(2) or E3000(1) from E3000(3). Everything works fine between E3000(2) and E3000(1). I'm using WPA and AES for security on all E3000's.Using two different SIDS for 2ghz and 5ghz. 40mhz accross the board, and same channels on each band. I was wondering if this wds scenario is not supported with tomatoUSB.

    Thank you
     
  22. jsmiddleton4

    jsmiddleton4 Network Guru Member

    Yes it is possible to daisy chain them. Just have to pay close attention to MAC address entries, etc. You need to have spanning tree protocol on. Also you want to turn off any security until you get the thing stable. You should be able to do WDS on the 5ghz channels just fine. If you look at my settings they work. May not be 100% tweaked, but they work.

    Also make sure your router and gateway have been set correctly. Should only be one gateway, the router connected to the internet.
     

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