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why so many bricked routers

Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by jagboy, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    today i awnsered about 18 questions about bricked routers on linksysinfo. come on people this is pre final releases.
    toxic or jdepew could you post someting in the download section about this. most problems i see is with the dd-wrt firmware. so in the download section for dd-wrt could you post some kind of warning.

    i m not saying to sopt downloading 3rd party firmware but if you dont know how to debrick a router then learn how or dont download the firmware-this is the nicest way i could put it.
     
  2. distantcoder

    distantcoder Network Guru Member

    This may be my first post here not sure.
    I bricked 1 of 3 WRT54G With the new Talisman Software.
    I followed all the steps but to my amazement, a bricked router.
    My SysInfo.htm Page shows that I hardware Version 2.0
    However my Sticker on the bottom of my Unit says it is a v2.2

    So I downloaded the Talisman software for the 2.2 and 3.0 WRT54G's
    and Voila BRICK.

    I did recover. I shorted pins on the Intel Flash chip, 15+16 and applied
    the power carefully whilst shorting, Very Surprised was I to find my router Pingable, and then TFTP'able.. :)

    Now I am wondering if I should download the version for the ver 1 and 2.0
    routers and give it a shot.

    Many Things can brick a router, However I find most of them being silly things like Upgrading on a wireless connection, Clicking the Continue Botton from the web interface before the flash is completely written.
    Silly stuff like that.

    Hey we are all learning, and what a better way to learn than to brick your router.. :)

    -distantcoder
     
  3. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    if you are willing to risk bricking another router then yes. i would wait it off. i know that talisman will come out more stable soon
     
  4. Couledouce

    Couledouce Network Guru Member

    I agree with Jagboy, why do people need to post to find out how to recover a brick?

    I did a search and it is easy enough to find many different recovery methods, so do we have to make it easier, a Sticky just for this, a link to the sticky from each download page?
     
  5. Disman_ca

    Disman_ca Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    The recovery method is available in the Faq section titled " My Red Diag light is flashing whats wrong?" http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=7 . Perhaps the name of the thread can be changed and then display on top of the downloads section. The problem is no body can force them to read it. If the are intent on loading 3rd party firmware without reading, then they deserve a little reality kick. Do it once and you learn to read first. Sorry if thats a little harsh, but their is enough info all over on how to recover and recomendations on reading then doing.
     
  6. Couledouce

    Couledouce Network Guru Member

    All for them, reading and searching before loading and even before posting!

    Comment for the moderators, maybe the FAQ needs a little update as well:

    eg In the WRT54G section "How do I recover a 'bricked' router from a bad firmware flash updgrade?" is empty...

    Need to add instructions or link about pin shorting?
     
  7. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    congrats jagboy on becoming an addict :)
    I had a v1.0 I bricked by overfilling the poor nvram, the thing wouldn't even bring up the network interface, I had tried everything, after shorting the recomended pins I tried shorting all the pins on every chip :p then I ripped the miniPCI card out stuck it in my laptop and started cutting traces on teh mainbord till the diag light went out, that was satisfying... :)
     
  8. oopsibrokeit

    oopsibrokeit Network Guru Member

    all for updating the FAQ's.

    so far i've bricked my wap54, 3, 4 maybe 5 times, mainly through being an eejit and not reading the instructions :oops: , although there was the small matter of the version2.06 firmware which bricked it as soon as it upgraded. So far i've found everything i needed to know to retrieve the situation without needing to ask any more questions, it's all there already *if* you take the time to have a trawl through! problem is, people want the answer presented on a plate!

    I've learnt enough along the way to make me, i hope, a useful member of the forum!
     
  9. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    I did alot of checking and posting before I trashed mine, I think the v2s are easier to unbrick than the v1s but I can't be sure...(i took extra precautions to make sure I didn't brick it again) the only real soloution anyone could provide me was to install a serial port on it and I didn't want to go to all that trouble.
     
  10. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    thanks that was a long night.

    it would be cool if we had a "all newbies that are going to download 3rd party firmware readnow" kind of thing. or "debricking router guides"
     
  11. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    they won't even if you make them read it before they download the firmware they still won't read it...
     
  12. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    that i know. i know people wont be carefull untill they brick their first router
     
  13. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    i was careful and I still bricked my router :p
    stupid, but careful....
     
  14. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i still used to upgrade firmware over wireless up untill recently
     
  15. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    I actually broke mine by adding too many commands to the startup script, not while actually upgrading firmware... the switch woudln't even come up on boot, it would just go to diag and lock up like it was kernel panicking... not good... (thought I got that free minipci card out of it)
    i've never flashed over wireless, which would probably work anyway (except my zipit which doesn't haev a wired interface)
     
  16. malfeasance

    malfeasance Network Guru Member

    Yo! I'm a Newbie and I went to great lengths reading everything I could to make sure I was doing it right, and had fun doing it, both here and on the internet. I learned a hell of a lot in a short period of time. So, if no one had of posted the info in the first place, thinking no one would read it, then I wouldn't have had the info to help me!

    Personally, I'm fascinated by everything I read on here, except screeds.
     
  17. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member


    well volunteered jagboy....since you are addicted, why not right something useful?

    go ahead and write it, then we'll post it.
     
  18. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    you mean a guide on how to revive a wrt....tnen ok sure i will be more then happy. i can get it to you in a few days if you want
     
  19. distantcoder

    distantcoder Network Guru Member

    Why so many bricked routers.
    Why don't people read?
    Maybe serialized authenticated fingerprinting method making sure
    all unbricking methods have been read, all precautionary action taken, and did you ground yourself with mat before trying to apply the firmware? LOL

    I don't know, I don't care. What these WRT54G's are like 50 bucks at wally world. I know people who spent more than that for a coffee maker.

    I bet if tried to make my $8.00 toaster into a George foreman Grill
    I'd probobly short something, burn a lot of food, if not electricute myself.

    I say firmware the hell out of these routers or program them the way you
    want them to work. After all, they are pretty cool little toasters. Worst Case scenario, what I'm out 50 bucks? Where can you get a cheap linux box for 50 bucks? Answer... Linksys @ wally world.

    distantcoder
     
  20. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    You haev a mod to turn your WRT into a toaster?
     
  21. distantcoder

    distantcoder Network Guru Member

    WRT54G A Toaster..

    Surly You jest, I don't have a mod to make it a toaster...

    But this one time.... At Band Camp.... :)

    distantcoder
     
  22. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    that stinks i thought that i could have toast in the morning and wifi all in one
     
  23. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    maybe if yopu turn the power up to 250 mw it could be used as a toaster?
     
  24. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    maybe the next sveasoft firmware release will include toastd... feature request?
     
  25. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i kidd you not i was reviving a wrt and earthing pin1 6 and the thing started smoking

    hey Guyfromhe speaking of reviving a wrt can you help me wit a guide that i am working on for reviving a wrt. and do you know html
     
  26. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    I don't know what pins I shorted but I got some cool sparks off my flash chips when I was shroing out random pins after I had given up :)
    no smoke though :(
    I had a mushroom cloud hanging over my desk for about a week when I accidentally shorted out mains lines with a tester inside a power supply that was kinda cool...

    and yea sure I can help ya out with that guid, I think i've read every reasource and document on how to revive that little blue box in existance...
    and yeah I know HTML, let me know where you want me...
     
  27. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    i am creating the page right now. and anyone else that wants to help you are welcome.
     
  28. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    ok let me know when your ready for me...
     
  29. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    umm.....ok i got the page all ready all i need is somewere to host it

    ahem Toxic

    Guyfromhe can i email you the page and the pictures or somthing
     
  30. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    sure jared - j @ ... xl0.org
    remove the spaces and the ... there..
     
  31. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    so it is jared@xl0.org ? sorry just want to get the email right
     
  32. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

  33. Guyfromhe

    Guyfromhe Network Guru Member

    got it, looking through it now
     
  34. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

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