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Wireless bridge and xbox 360 issue

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Decepticon, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. Decepticon

    Decepticon Addicted to LI Member

    Ok, so let me start off by telling you how my network is setup:

    Mainrouter: Linksys WRT54GS v2 with Tomato v 1.19 DHCP range is .100 - .109 for non DHCP static assignments

    Upstairs
    PC1(.111), PC2(.110) and 1 (out of 2) Xbox 360's(.126): Hardwired into Linksys
    -all three are using DHCP Static Assigned IP addresses
    -all three have no issues connecting to internet/Xbox Live

    Downstairs
    Netgear WGE101 Wireless Bridge (connection verified via Wifi!)
    -wired to that is my 2nd Xbox 360 with a Manually assigned IP (.125) and is set in the DMZ since I can't forward the same ports to two seperate IP's on the same network.

    Wii(.120) via Wifi and 2 other latops via Wifi(.112 and .113) -all DHCP static assigned IP's

    Here's the issue:
    The 2nd Xbox will say it connects to Xbox Live but it seems it only connects for a second and immediately disconnects. WHen I run the 'Test Xbox Live' tests, it passes with a moderate to open NAT. This setup worked at one time with the original Linksys FW!

    Now when I view the connected device list in the Tomato FW WITHOUT having the 2nd Xbox turne on, the bridge will show up with a WiFi signal indicator. Once the Xbox comes on, it's IP and MAC get the WiFI signal indicator. Is this normal?

    To my knowledge, wireless bridges aare supposed to be 'invisible' to the rest of the network - ie: you should not have to forward any ports to it, it should pass everything to what's behind it.

    Another weird thing, when I set the Bridge and the XBOX behind it to get an IP via DHCP, tomato will attempt to assign the same IP to both the bridge and the Xbox, which will cause the xbox live tests to fail at optaining an IP (which it definitely does not receive since the IP it shows is the generic 169.x.x.x that it assigns itself if there is no DHCP server).

    I have tried every combination i could think of to get this to work seemlessly. I even set the bridge in the DMZ - no go. Manual IP's for both the bridge and the xbox - no go. DHCP for both....no good. DHCP static IP's for both....see a pattern here?

    So I am at a loss....should I pony up for another WRT54GS, flash it with tomato and use it as the bridge? Would that work better than the WGE101?

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Rob650

    Rob650 Addicted to LI Member

    I don't know anything about Xbox 360s but, have you tried connecting a normal computer to the WGE101? It might be easier to troubleshoot that way.
     
  3. Decepticon

    Decepticon Addicted to LI Member


    Yes! Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Web browsing works fine, but that's just port 80. Xbox 360's need port 88 UDP and 3074 UDP/TCP forwarded to it. And those ports are allready being forwarded to the 1st Xbox (hardwired into the WRT54GS - and it wrks perfectly mind you).

    I am thinking this is some sort of IP issue between the bridge/2nd XBOX and the AP but can't figure it out.

    Is there some kind of script that can detect when an IP is active and forward the ports necessary to that IPp until it is inactive for a set period of time? I know it sounds like uPnP but that doesn't keep the ports open long enough.
     
  4. Rob650

    Rob650 Addicted to LI Member

    You can only forward a specific port to one device at a time (with one external IP) - I don't think DMZ is going to do the trick if you already have the ports forwarded to the other Xbox. Try disconnecting the hardwired Xbox, turn off DMZ, and forward the ports needed to the second Xbox. You had both Xboxs working at the same time with the Linksys firmware?
     
  5. Decepticon

    Decepticon Addicted to LI Member

    Well, I never really wanted/needed them working at the same time. I just have two, so when the wife wants to watch tv, I go upstairs and use the other box for the night.

    And as far as the box's working with the original FW, well I didn't have two xbox's with the original Linksys FW. But, I did have the one Xbox I had behind the bridge and it worked perfectly with the correct ports forwarded.
     
  6. Rob650

    Rob650 Addicted to LI Member

    Ah, well this is a bit of a hack, but if you only have one Xbox on at a time you can set them both to the same IP address and whichever one is on will get the ports forwarded to it. I don't know of a better solution, sorry.
     
  7. Decepticon

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    This is what the device list says with just the bridge on:

    Interface MAC Address IP Address Name RSSI Quality Lease

    eth1 XX:XX:XX:89:69:07 192.168.1.107 SullivanBridge -75 dBm 19 0 days, 22:42:11
    br0 XX:XX:XX:F7:1D:10 192.168.1.110 Server
    eth1 XX:XX:XX:75:F7:AB 192.168.1.112 SeanLaptop -78 dBm 16 0 days, 22:32:12
    eth1 XX:XX:XX:65:73:09 192.168.1.113 GinaLaptop -75 dBm 19 0 days, 22:32:06
    Noise Floor: -94 dBm

    This is what I set when the Xbox is turned on:


    br0 XX:XX:XX:89:69:07 192.168.1.107 SullivanBridge 0 days, 22:31:31
    eth1 XX:XX:XX:C0:69:E7 192.168.1.107 -69 dBm 25
    br0 XX:XX:XX:F7:1D:10 192.168.1.110 Server
    eth1 XX:XX:XX:75:F7:AB 192.168.1.112 SeanLaptop -72 dBm 22 0 days, 22:21:32
    eth1 XX:XX:XX:65:73:09 192.168.1.113 GinaLaptop -79 dBm 15 0 days, 22:21:26
    Noise Floor: -94 dBm

    The bridge and the entry below that (the Xbox)have the same IP....is that normal? Is the bridge NAT'ing to anything behind it?
     
  8. Decepticon

    Decepticon Addicted to LI Member

    Hmm, I'll give it a shot! I guess there wouldn't be any conflicts with the DHCP static ip as long as they are not on at the same time. Or I guess I can just take out the static DHCP entry for the one xbox.
     
  9. Rob650

    Rob650 Addicted to LI Member

    I wouldn't even go so far as static DHCP. The two Xboxs would have different MACs anyway. Just go into each Xbox and set the IP, subnet, etc. by hand. (I've never used static DHCP so I don't know if there would be conflicts there)
     
  10. Decepticon

    Decepticon Addicted to LI Member

    Yep, that worked! I still don't get why it didn't work with the way I had it setup, but whateva'! I have yet to try the Xbox upstairs, but I think it should be fine. Thanks for your help and input!
     

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