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WPA and Win98

Discussion in 'Other Linksys Equipment' started by JackHambabo, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. JackHambabo

    JackHambabo Network Guru Member

    Hello,

    is there any wirelessadapter (apart from WRT54G WAP54G etc. ;-) ) that will support WPA under Windows98. I got emails form Allnet und Longshine that all0263p and lcs8131g won't support WPA under Win98. The Longshine support said this would be because win98 wouldn't support this. I, however, don't see why the decryption and the encryption should be done by the driver?

    Very many thanks,
    Jack
     
  2. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    not too sure one what is any support wpa in Win98 as win98 is older than the ratified wpa standard, you'll problably find win98 does support this type of encription perhaps?
     
  3. howardp6

    howardp6 Network Guru Member

    I do not know if the Funk Odyssea product will run on Windows 98, but it is can be used on Windows 2000. Check the WWW.FUNK.COM site.
     
  4. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

  5. JackHambabo

    JackHambabo Network Guru Member

    but nothing for free or included?

    Thanks alot,

    as I understand both the AEGIS- and the FUNK- client cost around 40Dollars. They do however support a lot more encryption standards than just WPA-PSK. I would just need WPA-PSK. Isn't there some WLAN-adapter which does already include this feature. I don't see why I have to spend 25 Dollars on an USB-WLAN-Adapter and 40 Dollars just for the WPA-PSK support.

    Jack
     
  6. howardp6

    howardp6 Network Guru Member

    The problem is not the adpater, but the operating system does not support WPA-PSK and that is why you would need Aegis of Odyssey. Those client are less expensive than upgrading your OS to Windows XP ,if your computer can support it. You are using a 16 bit operating system, that is no longer supported by Microsoft.
     
  7. JackHambabo

    JackHambabo Network Guru Member

    longshine might work now?!?

    Hello,

    this is my mailcommunication with the longshine support (european website:http://www.longshine.de/):

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Guten Morgen,
    mit dem aktuellen Treiber/utility wird diese funktion auch unter Win98 unterstützt.

    mfg/best regards
    ....... Har....
    Longshine Technologie (Europe) GmbH
    An der .....
    D-22926 Ahrensburg
    Tel: 04102-.....
    Fax: 04102-.......
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack"
    To: "Support Longshine" <support@longshine.de>
    Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:30 PM
    Subject: Re: Internetanfrage - lcs 8131g: Kauf nur bei AVITOS möglich? und WPA unterstützung für Win 98 in


    > Guten Tag,
    >
    > haben sie denn ein Produkt in ihrem Angebot, welches einen Windows 98 PC mit einem WPA Netzverbindet.
    >
    > Herzlichen Dank
    > Jack
    >
    > Support Longshine wrote:
    >
    >> Ich habe den Stick nicht WPA Verschlüsseln können unter Win98
    >>
    >> http://www.longshine.de/data/endkunde-ger.html
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack"
    >> To: <support@longshine.de>
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:40 AM
    >> Subject: Internetanfrage - lcs 8131g: Kauf nur bei AVITOS möglich? und WPA unterstützung für Win 98 in
    >>
    >>
    >>> Guten Tag,
    >>>
    >>> ich habe zwei Fragen:
    >>> Ist der Kauf des lcs-8131g nur bei AVITOS möglich? Dort besteht nämlich derzeit eine Wartezeit von 2-4 oder mehr Wochen. Gibt es andere Bezugsquellen? (geizhals.at gibt keine Erfolge und chip.de findet nur AVITOS)
    >>>
    >>> und zweitens:
    >>> Unterstützt der Win 98 Treiber für diesen USB-WLAN-Adapter WPA? Ich habe von Karten anderer Hersteller gehört, dass diese in Win98 nur WEP unterstützen, aber WPA in WinXP. Um dies bei ihnen auszuschliessen, wollte ich dies nocheinmal nachfragen.
    >>>
    >>> Herzlichen Dank
    >>> Jack
    >>
    >>



    Upps, I just realize that this is german, so here is a rough translation. (the last mail contained a 8131g.rar file which included a utility and drivers for win98, Me, 2000, XP)
    ---------------------------------------------
    My first mail:
    I asked where one could buy their adapter and whether there is Win98-WPA support.

    longshine's first answer:
    "I have not been able to WPA-encrypt the stick in Win98" + a link to their resellers.

    my second mail:
    I asked whether there would be any other product that would get my win98-PC into the WPA-network.

    their second answer, this time signed with a name:
    "Good morning,
    using the current driver/utility this function is supported in Win98."

    ------------------------------

    So, it seems there is WPA support for Win98 for this adapter (longshine 8131g) now.
    As Funk and AEGIS are able to produce software enabling WPA in Win98, the utility producers for other USB-WLAN-adpater should be capable of writing this too. So I aspect other utilities handed out with the adapter to support Win98.

    Or am I missing some point here?

    Jack
     
  8. JackHambabo

    JackHambabo Network Guru Member

    WPA in linksys client software is to come

    Hi, one more thing,
    I just read at
    http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-189-ProdID-WRT54GX-15.php

    Update 2/22/2005
    ....
    Finally, it turns out that Linksys has included a WPA client for folks who aren't running WinXP. Just open the CD and run the odyc303.msi file to install a copy of Funk Software's Odyssey client. Linksys said this extra step is just temporary and that they plan to integrate a WPA supplicant into their client application

    Jack
     
  9. booly

    booly Network Guru Member

    In any case switch to win xp or 2k is a better solution
     
  10. howardp6

    howardp6 Network Guru Member

    Windows 2000 and Windows XP are true 32bit operating systems and do a better job of managing memory and they are more stable, but their memory, processor and disk requirements are greater. So it depends on your resources monetary and hardware. Windows 2000 Professional does not support any much software as Windows 98 SE. Windows XP supports more software and there is a Software compataiblity toolkit availiable. So if you want a premptive multi-tasking operating system got with the 32bit Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Windows 98 SE is nolonger supported by Microsoft. Windows 2000, I believe is nearing the end of its support cycle. With Windows 2000 there is no native WPA-PSK support, so you have to buy or get Odyssea or Aegis, or getting it off the Linksys CD or Website via a driver upgrade.
     
  11. some work okay in Windows 98

    I am using a Hawking HWR54G wireless router, and both a Hawking (aka Ralink) HWC54G and a Belkin F6D3010. Of course, the router shouldn't matter, as long as it supports WPA. Both cardbus cards are 'out of the box', firmware is original, and using the installation from the included CD Roms.

    Didn't have to do ANYTHING, they just run. I am using a 15 character (ASCII) passphrase, which just magically gets 'translated' into numerical keys - I don't do anything with them, but only note that you can see them.

    I know this thread is 'old', but there are so few answers anywhere to indicate you can keep Win98 if it does what you want. YES...you can!

    For me, using Win98se/LitePC (http:\\www.litepc.com) it is so much faster than XP it'll make your head spin! (strip out IE, multimedia, etc). Boot to desktop is about 12 seconds, shut down 2-3 seconds.

    Bill
     

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