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WRT54G, WDS, WPA, EyeHome, and Airport Express

Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by hwonder, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. hwonder

    hwonder Network Guru Member

    I've been googling left and right trying to find a good answer to this. So far, nothing works. I decided to throw myself to the mercy of the internet to see what you guys can come up with.

    Ok, here's my problem:
    I have a WRT54G v4 running tofu 6.2 (router A)
    a RT31P2 running default firmware (router B)
    an Airport Express downgraded to 6.1.1 (AX)
    and an EyeHome media player (EH).
    (there's also an HP 6840 in the mix).

    Here's my setup (periods to avoid leading space problem).

    ..................MODEM
    .......................|
    ......................(A)
    ...................../ \
    ...........wireless wired
    .........../ | \ \
    ........(AX) CPU HP (B)
    ..........| |
    ........wired VONAGE
    ..........|
    .........(EH)

    Here's what I'm trying to do:
    I want to have wireless internet. In another room, I have the EyeHome set up to stream wireless movies to my TV. I have the AX set up as an ethernet bridge there. I wanted the AX, as it will also be hooking up to the stereo in that room. Basically, I need to get WPA working over WDS between these two routers, or find some other work-around until that's possible. I did get it working, but it crapped out and took down my whole network when it did.

    What I've tried:
    I'm up on tofu 6.2, but when I try to switch to WPA, the AX says no.
    I tried to flash to GS hyperwrt via dd-wrt, but I bricked and had to start the whole business over. I did get it working via WEP, but security is a big issue (I live in a foreign country). I've Snorted about and see that I'm not the only one here. I thought about just plugging in the computer to the router as a temporary solution, but the EH won't configure to be port forwarded from the WLAN to a machine on the LAN. The one secure method I found is to just disconnect wireless on the Mac when I want to surf, but then you can't internet and watch movies at the same time, which is unacceptable.

    Obviously, as digital media streaming is one of the primary network functions, I need a key that changes before too long, as there are packets flying off of this thing like crazy. Any good suggestions on what I can try? Is the solution right there and I'm just missing it? I've been working on this for a good bit, and right now I'm thinking that I made a mistake and should have spent the extra dough for an Extreme Base Station that would support WPA over WDS. Restore my confidence.
     
  2. hwonder

    hwonder Network Guru Member

    wow, that diagram came out bad

    Here it is again:

    ..................MODEM
    .......................|
    ......................(A)
    ...................../...\
    ...........wireless...wired
    .........../......|...\..........\
    ........(AX)..CPU..HP.....(B)
    ..........|......................|
    ........wired...............VONAGE
    ..........|
    .........(EH)
     
  3. 4Access

    4Access Network Guru Member

    Well if the Airport Express simply won't support WPA & WDS (I believe I've heard people complaining about that before) then I only see two options.

    1. Find another router that has all the features you want (Media + WPA & WDS support) and replace the Airport Express

    2. Buy an additional router that supports just WPA & WDS and use it for the wireless link and the Airport Express for the Media capabilities. (Connect the two routers together using a short cable between the LAN ports) This might or might not be any cheaper than method 1.

    Good luck.
     
  4. pasys

    pasys Network Guru Member

    It supports WEP and WDS on the other hand..read one of the guide to get it working..It does not support WPA

    The reason , the WPA masks the MAC Address or something like that..I/m not sure.its the nature of WPA !
     
  5. hwonder

    hwonder Network Guru Member

    The end result

    I forgot to post an update with the solution, but this is what I ended up doing:

    My signal now goes from the modem to the WRT54G. This has a closed client list, but no other protection. The wireless client is just the Airport Express and only handles video and audio streaming to the iHome. This is probably best, as with that amount of data transfer, it would be easy to get the key. On the wired ports of the WRT54G, I have a RT31P2 connected for Vonage and a NetGear WGR614 that handles the secure wireless network. This seems to have a better range than does the WRT54G (even at 80% power) so we have good wireless internet and networking throughout the place. I will probably be adding a repeater into the non-secure network to boost performance. Now to dig around and see if I can get the WET11 to do this...but the drop to b might not be worth it. The long and short of it is that the best way to do this is probably to have more than one wireless network out there. Just the sheer number of packets needed to stream the video would compromise your key, no matter how random.
     

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