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[WRT54GL] It seems you all are not up-to-date

Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by Eagle666, May 23, 2006.

  1. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    Hi there, everywhere in the forum I read that the WRT54GL is v4 of the WRT54G. This WAS true. However, the WRT54GL has also become v5!!! including the speed-setup button. In the shop I have also checked the serialnumber -> damn v5! :sad:

    So now I don't know what to buy, it still is open-source, so I could change the firmware but v5 WRT's have less memory and that's why those things keep crashing when opening a lot of ports (p2p prog's, multiple pc's on the network, etc).

    So anyone any thoughts about this? I still need to buy a good wireless router which can handle alot of ports (6 users in the house, lot of load for the router).
  2. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

  3. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    That article is much too old. Like I said, the WRT54GL used to be a version 4! But only 2 weeks ago the product was end-of-life and could not be ordered anymore. Now it's back, with the new speed-setup button which can only be found on the version 5 so the new WRT54GL is definitely changed. And I also checked the serialnumber on the back and that also states that it's the new version 5.

    And yes, the new WRT54GL is still open-source, is still the Linux version but internally (hardware) it has just been changed as the version 5. That means, it also now has less memory.

    That you send it back and got version 1.1 is nice but I wonder how long ago you did that. If you would do that now they would probably change it to the newest GL version. And I don't think that Linksys has a lot of versions 1.1 laying around. Probably non anymore, now that they have a new GL version.
  4. mealto

    mealto LI Guru Member

    Wow, if that is the case, then Linksys is really trying to enter Mass Production city AND kill off 3rd party firmwares by limiting internal flash memory.

    Can anyone else confirm this?
  5. mingkee

    mingkee Network Guru Member

    I think I got old version GL
    on the setup page, it shows firmware version is 4.30.xx
  6. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    Firmware version isn't the same as product revision version. For example: hardware version 5 of the WRT54G comes with a firmware version 1.x.x.x.

    You should check the serialnumber of your router (on the back of the router or on the box it was shipped in). It should be somewhat comparable with the WRT54G serialnumbers:

    Serial No
    CDF1xxx WRT54G v1.0
    CDF2xxx-CDF3xxx WRT54G v1.1
    CDF5xxx WRT54G v2.0
    CDF7xxx WRT54G v2.2
    CDF8xxx WRT54G v3.0
    CDF9xxx WRT54G v3.1
    CDFAxxx WRT54G v4.0
    CDFBxxx WRT54G v5.0

    Oww, sorry, if you are checking the back you probably will see which version it is anyway, by looking at Model No: WRT54G vX.X :p

    Anyway, fastest way to see if it's version 5 or older is to check whether on the front there is a speed-set-up button. If there is, it's version 5, if there isn't you're the lucky one, and you'll have an older one.
  7. mealto

    mealto LI Guru Member

    Eagle, are you absolutely sure about this? Have not been able to find any legit info confirming your statement. You sure you did not pick up the WRT54GL V1.1?
  8. mingkee

    mingkee Network Guru Member

    can you indicate the pic of that button?
  9. vincentfox

    vincentfox Network Guru Member

    Post the serial number from the bottom of the unit, and the firmware version seen on it's web interface. Did you buy it still in the shrink-wrap? Online or retailer?

    I am skeptical of your claim otherwise. Presence of an SES button which is I guess what you mean when you say "speed setup" is not an identifying mark of v5 units. The SES button has been there for quite some while before v5, in much older Linux-based units. It's also still present on the current GL v1.0 and 1.1 units.

    Plenty of people out there saying even the latest GL v1.1 units are still quite definitely Linux-based and the same hardware as v4 units. I suppose in worst case someone could have shoved a v5 PCB into a GL case and ahem returned it in some sort of switcheroo deal. Firmware version on the web page would quite clearly indicate if it's v5 hardware inside a GL shell. With v5 hardware being so new, it's firmware is still in the 1.x range, whereas the mature Linux-based firmware is much higher number 4.something. You could also open the unit and inspect the PCB and report back the obvious chip numbers.
  10. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

    As for serial numbers my WRT54GL version 1.1 has a serial number starting with CL7

    I sent my version 5 back to Linksys on 4/27/2005
  11. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    Yes I do mean the One-Touch SES button. But you say it was always there? Is that maybe a difference between American and European versions? Because here (Europe) that button is new for version 5 and before that it wasn't there. Sure the Cisco picture was on the equipment (at the front on the far left) but it wasn't a button until version 5. Before that it wasn't even stated on the shipping box, but from version 5 that's the first thing you see on the box, as being a new feature, a new extra selling point.

    But for the serialnumber I will have to get back to the shop because I didn't buy this one, thinking it is a version 5. But now I want to check again. I'm getting curious, hence I'm still searching for a good wireless router.

    One question: how do you see it, the WRT54G didn't have a SES button until version 5 and the WRT54GL always had a SES button? Because I'm familiar with a WRT54G. I've only started searching for the WRT54GL since they started selling the WRT54G to version 5 (with the new SES button and VxWorks OS).

    And one thing, don't get me wrong, I am still saying that the new WRT54GL is Linux based. I'm only afraid for the hardware changes which seem to be consistent with new Linksys designs (which is a pity ofcourse).

    But I'll run to the shop tomorrow to check again.
  12. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    Can anybody give a list of serial numbers for the GL units? The different versions compaired with the serial numbers?
  13. vincentfox

    vincentfox Network Guru Member

    This is INCORRECT information.

    What you probably call "speed-set-up button" is called Secure Easy Setup by Linksys. The SES feature has been there since the WRT54G v3.0 unit. Every model since then has the SES buton, so it's not a useful indicator of a unit being v5 or not. Current GL v1.0 and v1.1 units which are definitely v4 Linux based hardware have the SES button. I have several GL v1.0 units they work fine.
  14. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    I am still wondering if this is a difference between the European versions and the American versions.

    Anyway, I probably got wrong info at a usually good computer shop (here nationally known). So I will go back tomorrow and check it out better.

    So let's hope that I am misinformed so that I can also buy that router tomorrow :p
  15. vincentfox

    vincentfox Network Guru Member

  16. Eagle666

    Eagle666 Network Guru Member

    Yes ofcourse, you're right. I've seen the G and GS units but overlooked that one line. Oeps! :shock:
  17. vincentfox

    vincentfox Network Guru Member

    The GL 1.0 is CL7....

    I have heard there is a GL 1.1 being sold in Europe but people who have seen both models at least from what I read on OpenWRT forums, couldn't tell any difference in the hardware. At least dmesg output seems identical to US GL v1.0 units.

    There are few reasons to vary hardware by country. Linksys generally uses the same hardware but may change the packaging, power supply, and default shipped firmware by country. Language is an obvious one. Power supply of course because of all the whacky variants of plugs and 50 Hz versus 60 Hz people use. Channel restrctions since in many countries the list of channels allowed varies. Here in the US it's 1 through 11. Other countries go up to 14. The US unit will work at 14 if you reflash it with a firmware that is non-US, proving the hardware is the same the restriction is imposed by software changes.
  18. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member


    What are the first four digits of the serial number of the version 1.0? I have a WRT54GL v 1.1 and the serial number starts with CL7B.
  19. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    Speed Setup Button?

    you mean SES?

    If the Unit says WRT54GL the serial numbers tbh are not an issue.

    serial numbers have been a guide for WRT54G/GS's but the GL is Linux based.

    You checked the serial number of a GL I only list one known one. Either linksys is renumbering the serial numbers or the unit you have is a V5 WRT54G (and not a GL)

    what ever way the GL is linux so stop this scaremongering.

    Perhaps you would like to show us some internal images of the unit before we make any hasty decisions.

    if you look at our autospy you cna check against the images of your so called WRT54GL v5

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