Acces point+WDS in 3 router setup

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Ullundar, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Ullundar

    Ullundar Networkin' Nut Member

    I am trying to do a 3 router setup with WDS with the following Hardware/firmware:

    1 Netgear WNR3500L with Toastman v1.28.7498 MIPSR2-Toastman-VLAN-RT K26 USB VPN-NOCAT
    2 Belkin F7D4302 with Toastman v1.28.0498 MIPSR2-Toastman-VLAN-RT-N K26 USB VPN-NOCAT

    The idea is to use WNR3500L as main router and the 2 Belkin as WDS extensions to my network to cover all of my house with a decent 2,4GHz signal. It WORKS perfect with the WNR3500L and ONE Belkin but when I add the second Belkin the connections with WNR3500 is dropped, not instantly but after a while. WNR3500L has a fairly standard/untouched config, but with WDS mac-mappings to the 2 Belkins. The 2 Belkins has no DHCP server (but a DHCP/ARP table), no firewall, no gateway and no WINS, WDS-mac, master browser & DNS all pointing to WNR3500L. All share the same security, wireless mode (Access Point+WDS), WPA2-key, channel width (40MHz), and wireless channel. On both Belkins I also use 5GHz, sharing another SSID, WPA2 and but not the channels. The Belkins are setup exactly the same and have some overlapping coverage. I obviously have made a mistake in the configuration or have some serious bad luck in my brain activity.
    I now hope that someone could save me (and possibly others) from being bald by tearing my hair in the desperate search in the fantastic possibilities in configuring Tomato! How can I solve the dropping of the WDS connections when I add a third WDS access point?
  2. Malitiacurt

    Malitiacurt Networkin' Nut Member

    Is spanning tree protocol enabled on all of them?
  3. Mercjoe

    Mercjoe Network Guru Member

    On the connect to MAC addressing for the remotor routers;

    Do you have the remote router set to link to the hub ONLY and you do not have the OTHER remote router MAC address listed as well.
  4. Ullundar

    Ullundar Networkin' Nut Member

    Hi, thanks!

    Regarding Spanning tree, where do I find this setting, should it not be on the routing page? Since I cant find it, i quite sure i havent changed it so propably on default=off.

    Regarding WDS MAC adressing from remote routers, they point only to the main hub router and not to each other.
  5. mvsgeek

    mvsgeek LI Guru Member

    I have 7 WDS 'slaves' connecting to a main hub. Spanning Tree Protocol is disabled (default). It's in the 'Miscellaneous' section on the Advanced --> Routing page.

    You may find this thread useful.

    For me, the crucial factor was reverting to WPA instead of WPA2. Reliability has been excellent since then.

    Mercjoe makes a good point - if the 'slaves' know about each other, performance suffers horribly.
  6. Ullundar

    Ullundar Networkin' Nut Member

    Thanks! I now have a lot of testing to do! Maybe the best would be to use the 5GHz as backbone with WDS only (ie not "Access piont-WDS") or bridge mode - and 2.4GHz as access pionts only, could be better performance? But I need to change the main router before testing this.
  7. Ullundar

    Ullundar Networkin' Nut Member

    Confirms that the change from WPA2 to WPA solved the problem. WPA2 and WDS together must have been the problem in my config, made ​​no other changes than this. Everything ok for 48 hours without any problems. Thank you for your help!
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