Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by kthaddock, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. kthaddock

    kthaddock Network Guru Member

  2. leandroong

    leandroong LI Guru Member

  3. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    YUM :) Tomato really needs to get ported to ARM...
  4. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    Not a Broadcom wireless chipset though - more porting required than just ARM support. Anyone know if the quantenna wireless drivers are open?
  5. Elfew

    Elfew Network Guru Member

    More routers - less price
  6. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Any more news on this unit? Spec-wise it appears to be identical to the Netgear R7000, but with 4 antennas instead of 3.
  7. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Networkin' Nut Member

    the RT-AC87U is fairly similar to the R7000 for the CPU, RAM, and Flash. looks like 2.4GHz and 5GHz chip will be completely different then the broadcom chips used in the R7000 and most other home routers today.

    i think its gonna be 4X4 AC @ 1700mbps and 4X4 BGN @ 600mbps (600mbit without "TurboQAM" aka 2.4GHz 256 QAM)

    sucks i wont be able to use this i need my units to be wallmountable :(

    soon i might consider upgrading to an R7000 though

    its that or an enterprise/business class AP('s)
    Last edited: May 27, 2014
  8. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    there are only minor differences from the currently working ARM platforms,
    provided we'll have a unit that would be an easy port ;)
  9. RMerlin

    RMerlin Network Guru Member

    The CPU architecture might be the same, but the wireless code is vastly different. Look at the GPL code for all the additional code for QTN. It will require more work than it took to implement support for the Northstar platform.
  10. roadkill

    roadkill Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    ASUS is going for unified architecture eventually the source tree will supports all the devices
    integrating drivers is tedious but it's not that complicated.
  11. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    i own one ;)
    Quint and Monk E. Boy like this.
  12. wbeard6142

    wbeard6142 Serious Server Member

    Can Tomato be installed on the AC87U
  13. RMerlin

    RMerlin Network Guru Member

  14. asturnauta

    asturnauta Addicted to LI Member

    Do you plan something with this router?

    I have a Linksys E4200 with your tomato mod and i want to upgrade to an AC router. I am thinking to buy an Asus rt-ac68u or this new asus model, but only if i can install tomato in the future.

  15. shibby20

    shibby20 Network Guru Member

    I had one only for few days and i had to send it back to Asus. I don`t have one for development. Well for now this router is not supported by tomato. Maybe in the future ...
  16. sunwind

    sunwind Reformed Router Member

    Damn, I just bought one upgrading from a WRT54GL (using Tomato on it) and just assumed because there were DD-WRT builds for it (I think, haven't tried installing any yet but they seem to exist) there'd be Tomato too!

    Oh well, I look forward to it if it ever is supported.
  17. kamaaina

    kamaaina Serious Server Member

    Merlinwrt has a version for it. That was the reason why I just picked up an open box one from newegg. Let's see how it goes.

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  18. uridium64

    uridium64 Connected Client Member

    The RT-AC87U looks nice. One drawback related to the quad antenna setup is IMO the size, which excludes certain applications. Does anyone know how much power it draws and if the temperatures are in a reasonable range?

    I can't spend the money for that router at the moment, which makes it a lot easier to wait for a Tomato release. ;)

    It sells for about 200 CHF in Switzerland at the moment. I wouldn't be suprised to see it cheaper in the future.
  19. BobOki

    BobOki Network Guru Member

    Yeah, I am keeping an eye on this and have been reporting on it since I heard it was coming out. I even talked to Asus and they promised to make all the drivers open source etcetc.
    Asus is a really solid brand with great hardware so I am hoping tomato will code to pick it up.
  20. uridium64

    uridium64 Connected Client Member

    I have a lot of ASUS stuff around here and most products are made very well in comparion to some competitors.

    I'm very grateful for the routers they made in the last few years. A couple of WRT54GL's have served me very well for years and for a long time, there was only a very limited choice for routers running Tomato. I have also a TL-WDR4300 running DD-WRT, which isn't bad, but I feel much more comfortable with Tomato.

    I use only the web recovery mode for flashing my ASUS routers and I didn't have real problems at all. This feature is IMO one of the biggest advantages of the ASUS routers. I'm mainly a Linux user, so the ASUS apps for Windows and OSX are no real option for me (OK, I have a few older Macs around, but I hate every OSX release which is newer than 10.6.x).

    I know there are a few minor differences between the web recovery of the various ASUS routers. I've flashed a RT-AC66U for a friend recently and I've noticed that the web recovery page was a bit more colourful than seen on other ASUS hardware. Is there any documentation available from ASUS? IIRC, some versions didn't have the "clear NVRAM" feature, but don't count me on that since it is long ago. I have also in memory that there was a tutorial somewhere to change the version of the boot loader respectively web recovery (not sure, if it was for the RT-N66U).

    To get back on track: Is the web recovery still the same for the RT-AC87U as we are used to? I'm almost sure. My new RT-N18U behaves the same as my other ASUS routers in this regard.

    BTW: A real advantage of the above mentioned TL-WDR4300 is the operating temperature. It doesn't get really warm when touching it. Very similar to WRT54GL. But it's the router which is used least. For me, it's mainly a DD-WRT test platform, because I like to have also a look on DD-WRT. It uses Atheros hardware, which is nice, but its radio isn't very powerful IMO.
    Last edited: May 21, 2015
  21. kamaaina

    kamaaina Serious Server Member

    I have the 87 running as an AP now for 24h. Cpu runs at 78C pretty much on idle. Just like the ac68. My r7000 is much cooler even over clocked. I put Merlin .53 on it and already had issues with the router. Some dropped connections. Then router turning off wireless on its own. Strange. Did some research and read the review on SNB. Should have read it before buying. So, decent hardware but software not fully backed yet from asus und drivers from quantenna. Watch and buy in 6 months or when a really good deal. I got a refurbished one for usd 175. Right now a refurbished r7000 or ac68 will be cheaper and a better router. Will check the range and throughput and play with it some more.

    Update almost a week later: After another adjustment of the settings and reboot it seems to run stable on Merlin .53. No further complaints so far with a bunch of wireless clients. Haven't had time yet to check and compare the range to the AC68R yet.
    Last edited: May 21, 2015
  22. kamaaina

    kamaaina Serious Server Member

    FYI, for anyone in the U.S. Newegg seems to have a few more of the refurbished AC87 for $160 that I just got, now they are even adding a free RT-N53 as a gift.

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