Bought a Linksys WRT54GL - Frustrated and needing help.

Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by Cookie129, May 2, 2006.

  1. Cookie129

    Cookie129 LI Guru Member

    Well... as the subject says ... I bought a Linksys WRT54GL - I am now very frustrated and am doubting if I made a wise purchase. I need help.

    I bought this router because I have 2 previous Linksys products (a BEFSR41 Router and a 5 port Linksys switch) - I have been thrilled with the performance of these previous products so I figured that when the time came that I needed to add some wireless devices then Linksys was to logical route to take. Somehow I feel it was not.

    Basically I feel that the product SHOULD perform as I expected out of the box without having to go to third party firmware etc... however it looks like I may be forced to do so?

    My main problem is that I am a BIG bit-torrent user... and often have as many as 15 to 20 items open either downloading or seeding etc... and as soon as I open any torrent client... the router goes belly up - starts wheezing, and basically croaks! I cannot even ping the darn thing! I stop the bit-torrent client and in a few minutes the router is functioning fine again. I absolutely NEVER had this problem with the BEFSR41 V.2 router in the 3½ to 4 years I have used it... and also ran a HTTP and a FTP server behind it as well, while running bit-torrent, and of course regular web surfing...

    Ahhhh! So I called Linksys Tech Support! Delightful! Like Pulling teeth! An experience I would recommend to anyone who would like to feel the pleasurable experiences of being disemboweled with an ice cream scoop whilst watching the latest edition of Sweating to the oldies with Richard Simmonds! How many times did I have to tell these people that the reason for my call was NOT for Wep Encryption problems... That I know what my SSID was, and that Bit-torrent was not a website that I was having trouble accessing. (Am I ranting here?... good - I needed that! :cry: )

    Anyway - after I found this page at utorrent's website and this site here ( I did a little reading... I now know I am not the only one... it's a common problem... and there are a lot of posts on it - many not complete...

    Can someone post a "Complete" rundown on this problem - and what exactly needs to be done to solve it - OR if it can be solved? (Yeah I seen posts of people with 3rd party firmware also with problems in this area...) - there is conflicting posts... not sure what exactly required.

    Is there a specific reason that Linksys has NOT addressed this yet? If my ole lowly BEFSR41 could do the job without even so much as a hiccup - why can't my fancy new router?

    (oh ad by using a 3rd party firmware does it void the Linksys warranty?)
  2. NateHoy

    NateHoy Network Guru Member

    Loading third party firmware by itself does not void your warranty, since you can load the original firmware back on prior to return.

    The problem with the default Linksys firmware is that it maintains open but idle connections for 5 days, and the connections table fills up and the router is unable to make new connections.

    Third party firmware lowers the idle timeout period to a more reasonable time limit, or gives you the option of setting it to suit your needs.
  3. vincentfox

    vincentfox Network Guru Member

    Man: "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this!" (contorting arm)
    Doctor: "So don't do that."

    BitTorrent poses a big problem for pretty much all the consumer-grade routers these days. They are designed with an assumption of average home user, not people running BitSucker Alpha v0.2.

    You can diddle with the ROUTER till the cows come home, but the real problem lies not in the $50 router but in the $2,000 PC that is trying to consume all available resources with no regard to limited network resources of a residential DSL setup. Proper configuration of the Torrent client should be your focus. I set mine to limit to 100 connections global max, 60% of download and 40% of upload and this works well.
  4. NateHoy

    NateHoy Network Guru Member

    Very true.

    I have found the following settings really help in overall network performance:

    - Max connections - keep this below 500.
    - Max connections per torrent - whatever you want, obviously low enough to spread the connections around, and never more than overall max for obvious reasons.
    - Max simultaneous outbound connection attempts (THE BIGGEST FACTOR!) - No more than 10.

    The last option is a very, very important one. When your connection pool for a given Torrent falls below your preset threshold, it'll start making lots of connections. Throttling that connection rate will allow you to ramp up your Torrents more slowly, and save you a LOT of useless entries in your NAT tables.
  5. Cookie129

    Cookie129 LI Guru Member

    LOL - just a sucker for punishment I guess... :wallbang: thanks for the replies though - I guess I am just expecting too much from the router...

    Oh well... for now my solution is to use both routers... the BEFSR41 is now the main router hooked to the cable modem... and the WRT54GL is up-linked from it. I placed the PC that runs the torrent client on the BEFSR41 as for 3 years it never had a problem with torrents, along with one other PC... the rest are hung off the WRT54GL.

    So far this seems to be working fine. In the meantime... Tonight I will still make those BitSucker adjustments you both mentions and see how performance works etc..
  6. ludovik14

    ludovik14 Network Guru Member

    AOL problems?

    Has anyone had problems using the wrt54gl with aol?
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