Help with Wireless Client on 1.27

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by perzaklie, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    I have 4 Linksys WRT54GL v1.1 routers. I have one as my primary router, running stock firmware connected to my DSL. I have one in my computer room, one in my back room near a window to share my internet with my brother next door, one at my brother's house, I had been using DDWRT. My son, the sys admin, recommended I change over to Tomato, which I did. My problem is that I cannot get any of them to connect to the internet through my primary. I used a tutorial on wifi planet, to set up with but it used 1.21. I am sure there are some differences. In any event, is there a tutorial here on setting up Wireless Client on 1.27? Can anyone help me get going? I don't want to go back to DDWRT because I was having some glitches from time to time and I like the simplicity of the Tomato GUI. Couple of screen prints attached.

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  2. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    No response? Ok then. It's back to DD-WRT. Thanks anyway.
  3. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    *laughs* Methinks you expect commercial-level support from an open-source initiative. I assume you paid for DD-WRT? :)

    That having been said - your basic configuration looks fine, but you didn't provide any detail on whether you are indeed getting a DHCP address as a wireless client (you are configured as such per the screenshot, but yet you wrote about your setup as if you have a static IP set - which is it?) or what your routing tables look like.

    Whatever the case may be, this isn't a "Tomato issue", it's basic wireless networking topology independent of whether you're using DD-WRT, Tomato, OpenWRT, or even the stock firmware. They all work in essentially the same manner (in this regard).

  4. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    Thanks. I re-loaded DD-WRT on them and I can 'Join' my primary router with no problems at all. I found no 'Join' function on Tomato so I don't know if they ever were in communication with my primary router or not. In any event, DD-WRT works and I could not get Tomato to.
  5. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    Care to share what "join"ing means in DD-WRT land? I haven't looked at that firmware in years, but it seems like a "friendly" term and we tend to use actual networking terms here. I can't find "join" in my networking playbook except for multicasting. ;)

    I really do want to help, but with all due respect, this thread is starting to look more and more like trolling. Please prove me wrong. =)

  6. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    "Join", when viewing one or more wireless networks, in dd-wrt lingo means "make me a client of the selected network". That's from old memory, so it may be different now. I forget if it asks for the authentication params, etc. afterwards, but I think it does.

    In tomato, you just need to setup "Wireless Client" under basic, and then the authentication params manually.
  7. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    Yes, HennieM, you are absolutely correct. In tomato, I setup Wireless Client under basic but I could never get a connection. I tried it on three different routers. None could I get to work. I re-flashed DD-WRT and all three worked. I don't know. I sure tried. It just didn't work for me. I am sure I was missing some step. In the meantime, the oldest of my routers died and I ordered a new one today. When it arrives, I will try tomato again.
  8. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    In my original post, I included screen shots of my Tomato setup, if anyone would care to critique it.
  9. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    It would be helpful to see the output of /var/log/messages after a connection attempt. Status/Logs/View Last 50 Lines should be sufficient in the GUI if you aren't conversant with the command prompt. The screenshot settings look fine to me, but you may wish to try forcing G-only instead of mixed mode in case you have a marginal signal (one advantage of DD-WRT is they do tend to use newer binary wireless chipset drivers).

  10. perzaklie

    perzaklie Addicted to LI Member

    Where would I find /var/log/messages? Is that in a log file within Tomato? I have already re-flashed the routers but I did G only without success before I re-flashed them as all my devices are G. Signal was excellent as all routers were within 5 feet of the primary router and each other as I was setting them up.
  11. rhester72

    rhester72 Network Guru Member

    See above - by Tomato menus, Status/Logs/View Last 50 Lines. Take a snapshot of that right after the wireless client attempts to sync (snapshots from both routers would be ideal, but the client logs at minimum).

  12. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    @perzaklie: There are, broadly speaking, two major steps in setting up a wireless network. For setting up a client - be that client a PC, or a router/AP configured as a client - to join a wireless net, the 2 steps entails in very broad terms:

    1) Setup SSID, and B or G, etc. such as your first screenshot - "Basic/Network", down to just before "Security"
    2) Setup the authentication scheme, WPA or so, and also encryption, TKIP/AES, etc. Your screenshot shows that "Security" is disabled, meaning that the network you want to join is completely open for just anyone to make use of; I doubt that that is the case, as you probably have WPA passkey or some such security on the wireless network.

    A 3rd step is the fine tuning (find that under "Advanced/Wireless") where you tweak little things to get the max speed, etc. from the client-to-wirelessnet connection.

    When connecting a Tomato client to a dd-wrt existing wireless net, the terms used are very similar, so check on your existing dd-wrt routers under "Wireless" and "Security" (I think), and set the same terms you find there on the Tomato router under "Basic/Network" and "Advanced/Wireless".

    I note that your SSID "Get_Off_My_Internet!!" contains the 2 "!"s. This may be quite OK, but it could also be that some software (especially a script or something running in one of the routers) might not like this.
    Remember also that the SSID is case sensitive, so duplicate it exactly from one router to the next.

    FYI, I have experienced slower speeds via dd-wrt routers than Tomato routers, but this was more than a year ago when I played with it last.
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