Linksys E3200 update from 108 to 109 beginners question

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by huibuh, May 25, 2013.

  1. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member

    i am currently using
on my Linksys E3200


    was released.
    the routers current configuration involves a openvpn anonymizing client provider setup and several wireless lans which i share with neighbors.
    how do i upgrade without losing my configuration?
    will all my settings be there and working after the upgrade to 109 ?
    what does the clear nvram checkbox do?
    must i mark clear nvram or not?
    i need to do the update because the 5ghz wlan still keeps dying on the E3200 using 108…

    could i do the "backup configuration"and "load configuration" in web ui before and after update to 109?
    will that work?
    would that give me my settings back under 109?

    sorry for my noobness - im really new to this…
    Best wishes from Frankfurt.
  2. darkknight93

    darkknight93 Networkin' Nut Member

    Grüße aus Bayern!

    In fact i would not recomment to Keep existing configuration and nvram. My "way" to upgrade my router is to open up all subpages and needed configuration pages, leave them open and upgrade the router in a new tab.
    So afterwards you are able to copy and paste neccessary Details.

    Shibby changed e.g. ipv6 Service from radvd to dnsmasq. this will conflict with nvram Setting. Image nvram as base of your configuration the router loads on boot in a particular part of storage like CMOS Settings on your PC. If some Settings are corrupt/not matching existing Software or conflict with running System things can get bad.

    The "erase nvram after upgrade" Checkbox is for cleaning nvram during upgrade proccess to Keep things clean.

    I'm having here also an E3200 and experience no more 5Ghz freeze/collapse issues with v109 :)
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  3. Cynsick

    Cynsick Addicted to LI Member

    You can also take screenshots of each page that you have settings on with a program like HyperSnap or some other screen utility (that's my method) I go thru each page of settings and snap away, some pages require 2 shots b/c even maximized you have to scroll down. But you should always erase NVRAM b/c new settings can and will be used or removed.

    P.S. One thing you can't really take a screen shot of is your WiFi password (you are using WPA2 Personal, right?) For that just click the text box, double click on the text, right click copy or Ctrl-C open a text file on you desktop or directory, and paste it in there, so when you upgrade you use the same password. Also don't forget to use the same SSID and router name so that the devices you connect with will still automatically reconnect after the upgrade.
  4. M0g13r

    M0g13r LI Guru Member

    hehe nochn frankfurter :)

    in telnet/ssh or gui tools...system

    u can export your nvram settings with "nvram export --set nvram set | grep pppoe" for pppoe stuff

    with "nvram export --set" u get all nvram settings

    save the output in a txt file (for later use)

    the output is ready for pasting back and setting the stuff u selected from your file

    leave things away that changed or not needed in that build u then use
  5. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member


    thx for the useful replies :) Dankeschööön ;-)

    ill try it now !
  6. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

  7. lefty

    lefty Addicted to LI Member

    If you can go thru the pain period of a manual setup and use Firefox, you can get this add-on called imacros that can record your whole manual setup, then you can just do a playback of that setup for every upgrade that you do, restoration on a fast playback can happen within 3 minutes. Also, the macro is script friendly, so if you need to add something into the playback macro, you can edit it in. Its one of the easier ways i have found to restore config after erasing nvram.
  8. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member


    i did the upgrade, and after the routers reboot i did select erase nvram and rebooted it again.

    Then i manually reconfigured it completely.

    i must say now i am totally impressed with the new version.:)

    i am using an canadian anonymous vpn provider
    and the tomato router is constantly connected to a openvpn server close to frankfurt.

    before the upgrade the speed with active vpn was 8 Mbps
    now with active vpn it is close to the capacity of my dsl connection - 15,31Mbps !!

    so there seems to be no longer such a huge difference in speed when browsing over an active anonymizing openvpn client connection.

    Great !!!!

    also the 5ghz wireless is stable and fast so far.
    Pc to Pc file transfers via 5ghz wlan are now running with 13 MB/Sec and run stable.

    Thank You for the Help


    PS: The attached screenshot is a speedtest with active openvpn connection
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  9. darkknight93

    darkknight93 Networkin' Nut Member

    Findi guad! Mit kabel Deutschland 100 mbit/s war's natürlich noch n.E. Wucht ;)

    Translation: random german stuff about reconquering the world with highspeed Internet
  10. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member

    ;-) i finds auch sehr nett ;-)

    in this remote ancient village i live in close to frankfurt the fastest internet available is sadly only 16mbits.

    but it is sufficient speed...

  11. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member

    Sadly the 5Ghz issue is not solved.

    The 5Ghz wlan is still randomly dropping away....
    mostly it happens when doing bigger downloads or transfering files....
  12. Malitiacurt

    Malitiacurt Networkin' Nut Member

    Could be overheating. Decrease the TX power on the 5Ghz radios and have it propped up on something (I put my E3200 on top of 2 erasers so they're about 1 inch above the table).

    Mine still do restart/drop; somewhat stable at 1.2MB/s DL but definitely will drop at around 2.4MB/s DL. Haven't done further tests since I don't use the E3200's 5Ghz that much.
  13. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member


    i tried decreasing the Transmit Power to 30mW from the standard 42 - and encountered another bug.
    after i pressed" save " the ui page displayed " saving " forever in the tomato ui and then the web ui froze....

    i could still access some parts uf the ui but " overview " and all wlan related links were frozen.

    after several reboots it came up again with the former 42 mW entered by itself.


    anyway i dont believe it is caused by overheating - the whole box is cold even under heavy use...
  14. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member

    its a pity in the end...

    the Linksys E3200 has decent hardware - simultan 2,4 and 5ghz - broadcom chipset - decent ram and cpu - and is affordable.

    a pity this 5ghz issue.

    because i love tomato - and before i spent more hours on the 5ghz dropping issue - i am considering other hardware.

    would the "ASUS RT-N66U 450 Mbps 5-Port Gigabit Wireless Dual-band N900 Router" solve my issues finally???

    i am wondering what hardware shibby is focusing on - - -

    the Linksys E3200 seems to be decent - but with all those issues it seems to be a dead end - seems not to be the top device for tomato...
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  15. darkknight93

    darkknight93 Networkin' Nut Member

    Asus RT-N66U is GODLIKE!! If you can efford it, buy it. Its "the" Standard for Tomato atm. :)
  16. Malitiacurt

    Malitiacurt Networkin' Nut Member

    The E3200 5ghz is definitely is less stable compared to my E4200, probably because of the USB driver.

    But still cheaper to deploy 8 of E3200/4200 which I bought at 60 and 80 dollars than the RTN-66 which is around 150 here.

    They give basically the same features, speed, and compatibility (Dual band, ~500Mhz broadcom cpu, usb, can run dd-wrt and tomato) without having to spend twice as much.
  17. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member


    the Linksys E4200 i could get for around 30€ here -
    maybe i should give that one a try....
  18. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member

    Lets see if the E4200 is more stable !
    i was lucky today ;-) bought a used rev1 E4200 on ebay for 27,50€
  19. Malitiacurt

    Malitiacurt Networkin' Nut Member

    The 450Mbps version is V2 (3 spatial streams). 300Mbps version is v1.

    ~Edit. V1 is 300Mbps (2.4GHz) + 450Mbps (5GHz). V2 is 450Mbps (2.4GHz) + 450Mbps (5GHz)
  20. huibuh

    huibuh Reformed Router Member


    before the auction ended i asked the seller to identify the router - it is a hardware rev V1 unit.
    on the backside of the E3200 is a sticker with the Serial No

    if it does begin with 01C10C it is a V1.... Broadcom based and Tomato Compatible.

    01C10C = a V1
    01C106 = a V2

    if i am not misinformed the V2 is not Tomato Compatible

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