Linksys e4200 V1

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mpp01, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member


    I'm new here. What prompted my arrival here is the bandwidth problem I am now experiencing streaming wireless video through my apple and android devices. I currently have a Linksys WRT54G running tomato software which has been absolutely great till these recent streaming acquisitions.

    Last night I took the first step in resolving my problem by acquiring a LinkSys e4200 V1 from an eBay auction. While I am awaiting for that purchase to come in I am wondering what would be the best 3rd party flash to put on it. Apart from streaming video simultaneously the only other important function I need it to serve is being good at running VOIP. I have a Magic Jack and it has been great running with my current setup and would like to duplicate that functionality with the E4200 and a suitable 3rd party flash.

    I know there are 3 or 4 3rd party flashes available but would like to hear from someone that knows more than I do about the best way to go. Being a site that has discussions on all existing 3rd party flashes I figure I would get the most objective information here. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    Thank you very much in advance.
  2. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    We're all biased here...

    First, most importantly, add rather than replace, if possible. In other words, use E4200v1 as Gateway and use the old router as a wireless g access point to free up your 2.4GHz antenna on the E4200v1 for n traffic only. Wireless streaming in HD is unreliable at the best of times.

    I've set up E4200v1's with dd-wrt, Kong, and Tomato from Shibby, Toastman, and Victek. They each have advantages. It sounds like you don't need dd-wrt or Kong's extra features, so you're probably better going with Tomato. It's more stable and the UI is more intuitive. QoS may be helpful to support the VOIP. If you want to experiment with local web server, ad blocking, or have a faster connection then go with Victek. If you want to experiment with torrent client on the router, go with Shibby. If you just want stability, then go with Toastman (non-VLAN version with 9 months of uptime without a reboot at my house).

    My one cent. (definitely not worth two)
  3. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    :)Hi Marcel,

    Thank you for 1¢ worth.

    I do like the KISS principle. I must admit I really like the Tomato on the WRT54G. It never gives me a problem. With the introduction of video streaming I've noticed that it does affect the quality of the voice when using my phone. I need to do a general reset to get my clear voice communication back.

    Yes, I do have quality of service on Tomato on the WRT54G. It was working well. Worked great until the data hogs moved into town (Apple & Android video streamers).

    Your first point intrigues me. I only have 1 ISP. How would I set this up? Connect the WRT54G to the E4200 and disable the E4200's 2.4 bandwidth and go only with the 5.0 band? The reason I would like this if it worked is that it would keep the Magic Jack away from those data hogs and I would not have to reset the equipment if it was isolated on its own network. I guess I would also have to give them dissimilar SSID's?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Victek is the only one that does QOS and VOIP siproxd (voip version) according to this:

    Is that not the case? You think I am better off with Toastman even without the QOS for stability?

    Look forward to your reply.


  4. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    All are excellent and can probably do what you need. Victek's latest (9013 v1.2) should be stable and now has Toastman's default QoS settings entered (though not enabled) by default.

    The way to add an AP is to use an ethernet cable (Cat 5 would be fine) connected from a LAN port on the E4200 to a LAN port on the WRT54G.
    WRT54G' settings:
    -- change ip address to something in the same subnet as the E4200, but outside its DHCP range (e.g. E4200 is, WRT54G could be
    -- give the wireless network a different SSID than your E4200 (g clients connect to the g router, n clients in both 2.4 and 5GHz connect to the n router)
    -- subnet mask same as E4200
    -- default gateway and DNS set to the E4200's ip address (e.g.
    -- change the routing setting to Router instead of Gateway
    -- disable any QoS or bandwidth limiter

    Set up the E4200 as you normally would, with both wireless radios enabled. Make sure the 2.4GHz channels on both routers are 1, 6, or 11, and make sure that they are each using their own channel. (not both on 6, for example)

    Enable QoS on the E4200. If you know the port number used by your VOIP system, then consider adding a rule for it. Give it a high priority, enough minimum bandwidth for the device, but low maximum bandwidth.

    Having multiple wireless APs with clients preferentially assigned to one or the other helps with overall throughput and latency for the wireless clients.

    Have fun! And remember to relay any bugs or positive feedback to the dev who made the firmware.
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  5. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Hi Marcel,

    Excellent post! I am going to make reference to this and do exactly what you said. I really like the AP idea for the WRT54G. This should single-handedly fix the interference that the hogs are having at this time.

    So you think Victek or Toastman then? I do like stability but then need to make sure I get a good VOIP connection.

    Look forward to your reply.


  6. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    Go for Victek 9013 r1.2, his latest. Follow the flashing instructions on the Tomato wiki. Essentially change E4200v1 to factory default (through GUI or 30-30-30,) unplug all ethernet from E4200v1, set PC to static ip in the same subnet as the router (192.168.1.x), plug ethernet into LAN port on router, log in to web GUI, manual configuration, and upgrade firmware to Tomato. Wait 5 min, log into router, do thorough NVRAM erase from the Administration tab. Wait a few minutes. Log into router and set it up.
  7. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Hi Marcel,

    Ok then I should download the E4200 version from here:

    Tomato wiki ... would it be this one?

    Assigning a static address such as demonstrated here?
    This is to be done just for the flash, right? Could you not just type in in a web browser and it will log you onto the router?

    Look forward to your reply.

  8. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    Yes, but only need to set the ip address and subnet mask. You can leave the rest blank. Just switch back to automatic after you're done flashing.
  9. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Hi Marcel,

    Ok ... got it.

    Thanks a lot for this.

  10. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Ok. It's been a while. I got my router, I flashed it. The flash seemed to work.

    I am now in the RAF Tomato software v 1.28.9013 1.2.

    I don't see an option to erase the NVRAM from the Administration tab.

    Please help.


    (I should also state that I did a 30-30-30 after flashing the router for good measure.)
  11. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    Administration > configuration > restore factory settings (thorough NVRAM erase)

    Then set up and enjoy Tomato!
  12. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Thank you for that Marcel. It worked well.

  13. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Ok. Configuration being done I am just trying to set up the new E4200 Router with nothing on it and I am not succeeding. I figured I would switch the ethernet cable coming from the cable modem to the E4200 and Bob would be my uncle. It was not to be. I am broadcasting a different SSID and figured I would just try to connect wirelessly to it from the laptop or tablet but it does not seem to be recognizing the new E4200 wireless connection. I have set it up for only the 5GHZ broadcast and left the 2.4GHZ on the WRT54G.

    I am stumped ... using this simple technique should have allowed the new router with the internet ethernet cable plugged into it to have worked ... the wireless access that is?

    Any ideas?


    Background information.

    New E4200 is WRT54G is now

    New E4200 SSID is S2. WRT54G SSID is S.

    I discovered this morning that I cannot get into my WRT54G router with the address of Can this be fixed?
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2013
  14. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    If possible, use a wired connection to your routers when updating settings. Don't switch to a wireless connection until all of your settings are correct.

    The WRT54G needs to be outside the DHCP range of your E4200, and otherwise set up as described in my second post. After you disable DHCP on the WRT54G, if the E4200 is not connected to it, then you will need a static ip address on any wired device that you connect to the WRT54G. Wireless devices will not connect unless the E4200 is connected and handing out ip addresses. When your E4200 is properly set up, and attached to the WRT54G (from LAN port to LAN port), then you will be able to access both routers through WiFi.

    Sometimes the issue with wireless connections is Windows, particularly 7 & 8, where you need to define the nature of the network (e.g. Home) in order to connect properly, but I suspect the problem is related to either 1) Not using a wired connection to the router 2) Faulty wire or 3) Faulty settings on one or both routers.
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  15. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Hi Marcel,

    Thank you for your response.

    I did as you suggested and connected to the router directly with an ethernet cable while having turned off wireless connection on the laptop and setting the address to on the laptop. This connection was done with the ethernet cable I used to successfully flash the E4200 with Victeck software. It would still not get userid and password prompt for router.

    This eliminates the non wired connection suspect and the faulty wire suspect. It will be hard to check settings on the WRT54G if I cannot get signed onto it.

    Thinking out loud, would a 30-30-30 reset the router back to default settings?

    Thanks for your help.


    I feel dumb now. I had an opportunity to go back in and retrace my steps.

    I went into the command prompt on my desktop pc and did a "systeminfo". I figured out why I could not get into the router. I assigned an address of of "" instead of "". I hooked up with my laptop with an ethernet cable with wifi turned off to "" and voila. UserId and PassWord prompt.

    I must have gotten a better sleep last night than the previous nights. At least the problem is figured out. I'm going to go back and reread all your previous posts and make back ups of my configuration screens should something like this happen again.

    I may have further questions for you, if you don't mind Marcel?

    Thank you for your help.


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    Last edited: Oct 27, 2013
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  16. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Ok, after digesting what you said Marcel from reply #4, and looking at this article:

    I have come up with what I believe has to be done and in the order that I need to do it in. I'm not rushing into this like the last time as my equipment being up is just too important to do this incorrectly.

    - WRT54G has wireless band 11, E4200 to have wireless band 6

    - WRT54G has ssid to SafeSecure, e4200 ssid to have SafeSecure2

    - Subnet mask to be for both WRT54G and e4200 (should be the same
    as the e4200)

    - IP address e4200 –, IP address WRT54G –

    - Gateway for WRT54G & e4200

    - DNS for WRT54G & e4200 is,

    - WRT54G configured as router, e4200 configured as gateway

    - WRT54G disable QOS limiter, setup QOS on e4200

    - On WRT54G WAN / Internet screen (3 of 5 screen) set to:
    o Type: Static
    o IP Address:
    o Subnet Mask:
    o Gateway:
    o MTU: default (leave as is)

    - On LAN
    o Router IP address:
    o Subnet Mask:
    o Default Gateway:
    o DNS Servers:,
    o DHCP Server: untick checkmark
    o Enable Wireless: check this box
    o Wireless Mode: Access Point
    o B/G Mode: Mixed
    o SSID: SafeSecure
    o Broadcast: uncheck this box (for extra security)

    Does this look correct?

  17. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    Should have the WAN set up the same way it was in the previous gateway router - the same connection type and the same additional settings if it's anything other than DHCP, where things would be automatically assigned.

    Should point to the E4200:
    Default gateway
    WAN type Disabled

    Not broadcasting the SSID doesn't add enough security to make it worth the hassle when adding new devices to your network.
  18. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Thank you for your reply Marcel.

    Ok so I should not do as anandtech says:
    - On WRT54G WAN / Internet screen (3 of 5 screen) set to:
    o Type: Static
    o IP Address:
    o Subnet Mask:
    o Gateway:
    o MTU: default (leave as is)

    These settings should be left as they are currently on the network. Correct?

    So in order to point to the E4200 the gateway should be the IP address for the E4200, "". The DNS should be the IP address of the E4200 "", or the same DNS servers that the E4200 has?

    Noted. Thank you.
  19. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    The AP's WAN type should be "disabled" rather than "static". Setting the AP's static DNS as your gateway router enables you to control all your DNS settings from the gateway router.
  20. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Thank you for your reply Marcel.

    Ok. That makes sense. If it is disabled no point in filling in with all the zeros.

    Makes sense also. Always better to have one traffic cop attending to maze of traffic.

    I appreciate your help sir. Now I need to gather up some courage and time to implement all this.

  21. mpp01

    mpp01 Reformed Router Member

    Ok ... time to give an update.

    I put in all the settings as discussed here. It did not seem to be working.

    I was getting frustrated so I rebooted the whole kit and caboodle. I brought everything back up and I was able to login with my desktop. Thinking everything was alright I started to investigate. After setting the WRT54G to Disabled, it showed up as Static after reboot. I could not even sign back onto it after I had changed it to Disabled. When it came back up I was able to loging to I looked at the setup and it came up as Static.

    Theoretically I should have had a 2.4 GHZ band on the WRT54G and I could not connect to it on the laptop.

    I tried to connect to the e4200 but it did not recognize the wireless network.

    The connection while posting this on the desktop starting going flaky. I immediately eliminated the WRT54G and hooked everything up to the e4200 and now it seems to be ok however the wireless of the e4200 does not seem to work. It is setup to broadcast however the SSID does not show up. I looked and it is setup as an Access Point and is not broadcasting the SSID.

    I'm not sure what is going on. Any help appreciated.

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    Last edited: Nov 12, 2013
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