Looking for a decent router...

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Eambo, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Hi everyone. For months (and after buying four very expensive wireless-N routers) I've been plagued by my router randomly stopping working, just not sending or receiving connections. I'm starting to think that it may be the routers I'm using have too low a connection limit, and I'm looking to remedy this.

    I'm looking for the following in a router:

    1) Longevity (I don't want it crapping out after 3 months >.<)
    2) Large amount of connections (I believe this is RAM dependant?)
    3) Wireless-N Capable (I have 3 computers that are N-Compatible)
    4) Decent QoS (Which I believe would be where Tomato comes in)
    5) Easy to flash (I'm not exactly a pro at this >.<)

    I would be willing to purchase one pre-flashed if they do this anywhere (Seen a few DD-WRT ones on ebay)

    Can anyone recommend a router that meets my requirements, or close to it? For an example of what I need it for, typically I'm running game consoles, two/three wireless computers, a wired computer with torrent and Skype, and other menial programs (such as Windows Live Messenger). This is why I really need something with a larger amount of connections.

    Thank you very much to anyone who takes the time to help me out and reply =-)
  2. ladysman

    ladysman Network Guru Member

    I have 6 PC's that are wired, running various OS's.
    I have 2 AppleTV's 1 wired and 1 wireless and they stream most of the day (kids, not me)
    5 Wireless Laptops
    2 iphones

    and i'm sure other stuff i'm forgetting.

    I completely abuse my network. I have a very strong cable connection (Normally 14-18 down and 6-7mb up).

    I have use a few V2.1 WRT54GS's for years without issue using tomato. Just recently I switched to the ASUS RT-N16 and haven't looked back. The only drawback to this router is it's only on 1 band but I don't care.

    I can't recommend it enough. The firmware is still early but it's been rock solid for me and many others.

  3. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Thank you for your very hasty reply, much appreciated!

    I'm looking up reviews of the router now ^_^ I noticed a review said no uPnP, that would be firmware dependant though right (IE tomato)

    I'm still open to suggestions, would like to get a few to decide from =-) What's the RAM on that, do you know?

    Also I forgot to mention, I'm on a 50mb Fibre Optic connection, not that it should make much of a difference on N I think...
  4. ladysman

    ladysman Network Guru Member

    UPnP works fine for me at least. I also manually set Port Forwarding for the xbox 360 as upnp will only allow 1 port when 3 additional are needed. (53,80,88)
  5. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Ah, so some work on my end will indeed be required. Lame =-P

    Well I'm reading reviews, and it sounds like a fantastic piece of kit. Especially the "300,000 simultaneous connections" bit =-P

    My biggest issue here now is the colour, haha. Apparently there's a black overclocked model from the republic of gamers, can't seem to find it though >.<
  6. ladysman

    ladysman Network Guru Member

    This isn't a router problem. All routers i've seen do this. It takes like 2 minutes to change.

    The processor in this asus is already a huge gain over the other routers (54g's) so I can't imagine an overclocked one...lol

    You will have some work anyway, it's not that bad and fun to play with.

    For port forwarding, I use Static DHCP to assign the IP addresses then forward the ports. pretty easy and it works great.
  7. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Hm, the routers I use right now I've never been told to open a port on the Xbox, it usually does that itself.

    I'm really tempted to buy this router. I want the rog one because apparently it's black, but I can't find it =-P

    Also the reason I'm buying a new router is because I came to the conclusion my old routers couldn't handle the amount of connections I was looking. However I just found out my wl-308 has support for 30,000 connections...so it shouldn't be an issue.

    Gah, so conflicted.
  8. ladysman

    ladysman Network Guru Member

    If you have ever played COD MW2, if you let UPnP forward only 3074, your nat will be at "Moderate". If you forward the ports i explained earlier, it will change to "open"... Open is for sure what you want. :wink:
  9. stallmen

    stallmen Addicted to LI Member

    Get the ASUS RT-N16. A great router. Replaced my WRT54G that'd I'd been using for years.
  10. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    So after reading reviews, and just looking at the sheer power behind this router, I decided to buy it. Hopefully this is the last router I'll have to buy...
  11. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    No question. This is THE router. And now with Tomato - the beta appears stable and can only get better. Go for it, man!
  12. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Haha glad to hear more backing =-D It looks like a very powerful piece of kit, I'm just hoping it'll resolve my random disconnect issues >.< I'm getting worried now because the Sitecom WL-308 that I have supposedly supports 30,000 connections, and it even drops under that router - so maybe it's not a connection amount issue...

    But since this supports 300,000 this is the best way to try it I guess. An expensive way, but a way nonetheless =-D
  13. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Forget all the hype about 300,000 connections - it's just marketing hype. I doubt the router could process that many, it's faster, but not THAT much faster. Fact is, if old unused connections are expired quickly, even the little WRT54GL can handle dozens of users. This router promises to handle the faster connections available these days (though not where I live !) and shouldn't suffer from instability due to adequate memory, which does seem to be responsible for the majority of stability problems in earlier routers.

    Your connection problem is a different story, this has long been a problem with wifi hardware compatibility. Now the newer N routers are beginning to be used in larger numbers, we're seeing the same or even worse problems, in my area many users are actually disabling "n". At least, with third party firmware, there is a greater chance of problems being discussed and perhaps fixed.
  14. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member

    Well I have had the issue wired (Through homeplugs) and wireless (both G + N standard) so it's not wireless only related. Basically my routers are stopping working, the lights on them are blinking as if they're trying to process data, however none of my computers are getting it...

    Again I'm assuming this is due to timeout/connection issues, which is why I need a router Tomato capable, and this seems like one of the better ones (hardware at least) =-)

    I really hope this is the issue anyway >.< Heh
  15. Eambo

    Eambo Addicted to LI Member


    So I searched for this router on google, and got google results: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=as...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

    I clicked the first link, went to buy it, it was out of stock and recommended other places that sell it. I see amazon marketplace, go there, buy it, all happy. I look at my order today to find I purchased an N-15, not 16...DOH.

    So I've emailed the seller to say I want to cancel, will have to wait on a refund to buy it... >.<

    I can't seem to find it anywhere in the UK. I've seen a few on Ebay from foreign sellers, some of them only around £50 (HALF what I've seen others going for). I'm wary of buying off eBay though, because I've bought a router off eBay in the past and the manufacturer told me the warranty doesn't count because I didn't buy it off an authorised reseller... =-(

    Can anyone find any UK stores to purchase this router?
  16. rs232

    rs232 Network Guru Member

    Is tomato actually working with the ASUS RT-N16? Is wireless N working ok?
  17. ladysman

    ladysman Network Guru Member

    Yes and yes.
  18. Solid-State

    Solid-State Network Guru Member

    RE: Asus or Buffalo?

    I dunno about that new asus unit but my vote goes for the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. It goes for the same price as a Linksys GL model but includes the newer broadcom chipset with receive and transmit amps. It's coverage on average is almost double that of an WRT54GL. The radio can be set as high as 64mw before amplification and this puts it in UBNT ERP territory. A fantastic unit only the RP-SMA is a bitch because the hole to access it is to small for standard antenna. I simply removed the PCB put chassis back together and used a drill to widen the hole.

    Yup my vote is the WHR-HP-G54

  19. Toastman

    Toastman Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    4MB flash, 16MB RAM, old design, nice ... but it's history.
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