might move from ddwrt to Tomato and need some input

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by speedy3k, Aug 21, 2007.

  1. speedy3k

    speedy3k LI Guru Member

    I'm thinking about moving from dd-wrt to tomato. dd-wrt is a nice firmware, but has alot of things i don't really need, and its missing a few items i would like. Tomato has 99% of the things I want.

    The one thing it looks like it might be missing is a repeater mode. Does it offer this feature?

    just for clarification, I'm not talking about wds or client bridge mode.

  2. srouquette

    srouquette Network Guru Member

    I don't think so.
    I can see 5 modes:
    AP + WDS
    Client mode
    Wireless ethernet bridge
  3. tievolu

    tievolu Network Guru Member

    Isn't "AP + WDS" basically a repeater? That's how I use this mode anyway....
  4. srouquette

    srouquette Network Guru Member

    yeah, I don't know, that's why I listed everything I can see :)
  5. Odin-60

    Odin-60 LI Guru Member

    "AP + WDS" is the same as "WDS" in DD-WRT. It is basically different
    from the "repeater mode" that was introduced with DD-WRT v24 (and
    which can be described as "Client + AP", using two virtual wireless

    To answer the original question: No, what's called "repeater mode"
    in DD-WRT is not available with Tomato.
  6. speedy3k

    speedy3k LI Guru Member

    thank you all for the replies.

    thats what I was afraid of. oh well. I'm not sure if its a deal breaker or not. I've been told that the performance and QoS on tomato is top notch. I may still need to give it a test run.
  7. Quijy

    Quijy LI Guru Member

    I have run both tomato and currently running DD-WRT. I like it better, it suits my needs. I run the WRT as just an AP, not a router. If you are running in this config, DD-WRT may be a better choice.
  8. ziddey

    ziddey Network Guru Member

    I used to run ddwrt but switched to tomato earlier in the year. Went back to ddwrt for a few days, and then immediately came back to tomato. qos is far superior. overall a lot faster as well.
  9. TheCleanerLeon

    TheCleanerLeon LI Guru Member

    I have just switched to tomato after I was getting loss of internet (while network still connected), and seemingly unstable and slow UI (sometimes it would load only buttons, no text, other times not open at all or slower) w/ DD-WRT v23 'stable'

    The tomato UI is QUICK, simple and inuitive, and hey i'm easily entertained so the real time graphs are cool too (though they dont work for me in IE7, but do in Firefox??) Ive found much improvement with regards to QoS, but REALLY wish i could control inbound data with classifications
  10. pharma

    pharma Network Guru Member

    The real time graphs work in my setup with IE7! You definitely need the Adobe SVG download since the Graphs/SVG do not work with all browsers.

  11. TheCleanerLeon

    TheCleanerLeon LI Guru Member

    That worked, thankyou. Also though, 'logout' is missing in IE7, but not in FF, is this common?
  12. speedy3k

    speedy3k LI Guru Member

    i would really like to make the switch, but i love the repeater mode in dd-wrt. I wonder if the developers could add that to tomato...then i would be sold!
  13. Reiper

    Reiper LI Guru Member

    Yes, that is something Jon recently changed due to the way IE was handling the "logout" request, which wasn't very eloquent.
  14. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    What kind of radio are you wanting to repeat ?
  15. speedy3k

    speedy3k LI Guru Member

    Buffalo WHR-G54S

    although I know I can use wds, I like repeater mode that dd-wrt has to offer as there is no loss in speeds.

    dont get me wrong..im happy with dd-wrt...i just would like to give tomato a spin since I've been told the QoS is improved over dd-wrt.
  16. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

    That is what I thought, and why I asked. You are completely wrong in your assumptions. DD-WRT repeater mode and Tomato (or any) WDS both cut the bandwidth in half for wireless clients. The mechanism is the same. There is no advantage by using DD-WRT repeater. You may as well flash Tomato on everything and use WDS. WDS (and DD repeater) will only cut the bandwidth in half for wireless clients of the repeater device, not for computers connected to the repeater by CAT5. Tomato WDS has superior performance over DD-WRT WDS and DD-WRT repeater. It has less overhead and clutter and will deliver about 25% more bandwidth than either of DD-WRT's repeat modes.
  17. speedy3k

    speedy3k LI Guru Member

    does tomato have a pptp server built into it?
  18. ziddey

    ziddey Network Guru Member

    no it doesn't. but tomato's qos does indeed spank ddwrt. i went back recently after a 2 day hiatus to dd and am absolutely loving it again
  19. TheCleanerLeon

    TheCleanerLeon LI Guru Member

    I have to say since making the switch, my network has been rock solid, and I LOVE the QoS. Wish I'd have found it much longer ago
  20. tievolu

    tievolu Network Guru Member

    Not sure who told you that.....but it's not true.

    Any repeater/WDS configuration halves the throughput for each wireless link. The reason is because the radio is half duplex - it cannot transmit and receive at the same time. No clever software can change that.
  21. 178445226

    178445226 Addicted to LI Member

    The MIMO works with dd-wrt may do it i guess (but not in 802.11n speed) :)

    but don't know what the principle it is when the dd-wrt works with MIMO in repeater/WDS mode.
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