Mod and SSID

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by eahm, Jun 24, 2011.

  1. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Hello, sometimes I have to flash a router remotely and via wireless from a laptop, I know I shouldn't but sometimes I really have to.

    I can configure the OS to automatically connect to a predefined SSID but different mods have different SSID names. For this reason I need to know every SSID default name every Tomato mod has (I only flash Tomato, sometimes DD-WRT).
    This is just to save complications or misunderstanding with the customer ...and time to find the wireless (it's harder than you think for the customer).

    I have these ones:


    If you guys can add more...

  2. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Please developers follow up this thread, very important IMO.

  3. teaman

    teaman LI Guru Member

    On Teaman-RT, running on E3000 (simultaneous/dual radio):
    wireless (eth1/wl0, 2.4GHz)
    wireless1 (eth2/wl1, 5GHz)
  4. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Can we decide for a default one for every build?

    Here is my suggestion:

    2.4GHz = tomato24
    5GHz = tomato5
  5. philess

    philess Networkin' Nut Member


    2.4 GHz networks: tomato, tomato2, tomato3, ...
    5 GHz networks: tomato5, tomato52, tomato53, ...

    Most routers only run a 2.4, keep the name(s) as simple as possible for them (customers).
  6. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Well, I guess you don't understand what the purpose of a default name for the SSID is.

    The names MUST be two max (if the router is dual band). One for 2.4GHz and one for 5GHz. This is NOT for the customer and even if, the "customer" can understand better what 24 and 5 mean.

    Please read the first post.
  7. philess

    philess Networkin' Nut Member

    Two names max... for two interfaces... virtual wireless interfaces should
    be named after a standard too tho, thats why tomato2, tomato3...
  8. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Yes I got that but why are you talking about MultiSSIDs names? Why not just tomato and tomato5 like you want to say?

    These SSID names are just to automatically connect the PC to the updated router right after a remote update. We don't need anything else and this is temporary, 5 mins max.

    tomato24 and tomato5 define better wich antenna you're connecting to and the developers don't confuse the simple tomato name with the two antennas, they will know and remember for sure 24 is 2.4GHz and 5 is 5GHz.

    Seriously, I don't even know why I keep explaining this.
  9. Mangix

    Mangix Networkin' Nut Member

    For security reasons, I'm more in favor of just disabling the wireless interface by default. OpenWRT/Gargoyle already does this. Having it enabled by default exposes the router to a great amount of risk.

    If I ever need to flash a router remotely, I just SSH in and flash the firmware. If after flash the firmware has a new IP, it's fine for me as I have DDNS setup.
  10. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    Mangix, that's even a better option, so when I update a customer's router wirelessly I don't even bother so set it up.

    I think I need to create a new thread and explain better why this is needed.

    Let me try one more time:

    1) Customer has a laptop.
    2) Can't drive there.
    3) Needs router to be updated, changed firmware/build/whatever.
    4) Remote in with LogMeIn/TeamViewer
    5) Setup an automatic default WiFi on OS (Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever) to connect to after the update.
    6) Start the update with NVRAM reset.
    7) Update done, PC automatically reconnect to updated router and gets internet.
    8) Remote back in, configure everything (here I can also configure the SSID passwords and the remote admin access to the router, the default unprotected SSID is needed just for ONE MINUTE).
    9) Profit.

    I can't do the 5 if every build has a different SSID name. I mean, I can but I have to know all of them. Let's tell Victek, Toastman and Shibby to use FOR EXAMPLE tomato24 for 2.4GHz and tomato5 for 5GHz and then everyone is happy.
  11. mpegmaster

    mpegmaster Addicted to LI Member


    The "BEST" engineering practice is on the wire... not via WiFi.

    How are you going to pre-stuff a Static WAN ip and it's structure if you customer has one.... for example of one condition?

  12. eahm

    eahm LI Guru Member

    I can't do remotely the ones with static WAN :)

    I only do privates remotely and wirelessly never companies and it happens really really often, once/twice a year.
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