Roomate is using Tomato firmware to see recent searches

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by Cali-02, Jul 23, 2014.

  1. Cali-02

    Cali-02 Network Newbie Member

    Hello everybody,

    My roomate is admin so to speak for our apartment. Unfortunately he is abusing his powers a little too much by seeing what website and recent searches everybody has been using. I know this for a fact, I am not being one of those paranoid people. He literally said, "hey I can see what you guys search....who searched blah blah blah." I also heard him say something about setting it up so he could tell whose device has what IP so he can tell who is searching what. I believe he just installed the firmware Tomato.

    Obviously the best thing would be to confront him, but I dont find that very fun. I would much rather beat him at his own game, by somehow blocking my devices so he is left scratching his head wondering why he cannot see me.

    Is this possible, and if so how do I do it.

    Thanks for your help.
  2. Malitiacurt

    Malitiacurt Networkin' Nut Member

    Use an external VPN.

    Note that he can't see anything you visit or search that's through HTTPS, but you cannot guarantee mobile devices/apps don't 'leak' connections unencrypted; VPN solves that by tunnelling everything through
  3. remlei

    remlei Networkin' Nut Member

    vpn and proxy, choose either of them and you can bypass those logging.

    all of those logging are iptables level. unless you install a squid proxy/tinyproxy on tomato router itself, you can bypass those since 'lo' interface are not being logged..
  4. EOC_Jason

    EOC_Jason Networkin' Nut Member

    Take a hammer to his router?
  5. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    But as admin on the router the roommate would then have access to even more detailed logs.
  6. jerrm

    jerrm Network Guru Member

    The simplest way is to make sure you are using the secure https version of search sites. Google should default to https in most cases now. Others you need to check. For instance, bing doesn't default to secure. Also note, if he wanted he could disable secure Google searches at the network level if he wanted.

    He could still see what sites you visit though, and even full url data for unencrypted sites with a little ingenuity.

    An external VPN provider is the only way to hide all your traffic from the router admin. No other way other than the hammer suggestion.
  7. Monk E. Boy

    Monk E. Boy Network Guru Member

    You could also guess the router password (try admin/admin or admin/password) and either upload a firmware that either doesn't have the requisite web tracking module (note: I think this would take someone compiling it, I think it's in all the major Tomato images) or simply turn the function off.

    Most of the data is kept in RAM by default, so you could also just periodically unplug the router to make it lose data. I would caution him against enabling the IPTraffic module, every time I enable that my connection goes to shit, but then again I have dozens of (sometimes over 100) devices it has to track.
  8. rs232

    rs232 Network Guru Member

    Install a tomato in front of his router and see what he searches
  9. lancethepants

    lancethepants Network Guru Member

    You should give him some eye-raising shocking searches. :eek:
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  10. rs232

    rs232 Network Guru Member

    Try to google "how to kill and eat your network administrator" :D
  11. Marcel Tunks

    Marcel Tunks Networkin' Nut Member

    When I read your post I thought maybe there was some crazy site dedicated to that topic. I didn't see one. I am disappointed and relieved at the same time!
  12. koitsu

    koitsu Network Guru Member

    Or combine both of the above. ;)
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  13. Monk E. Boy

    Monk E. Boy Network Guru Member

    "Best Method Of Castrating Nazi Google Search Logging Douchebags," "Legal Expectation Of Privacy Means I Can Sue You" (half serious - there is a legally defined expectation of privacy, even when in your employer's office - at home you're likely to clean out his wallet), "Its Amazing What Can Happen To Your Car When You're Not In It."
  14. lancethepants

    lancethepants Network Guru Member

  15. gfunkdave

    gfunkdave LI Guru Member

    How about just tell him he's being a dipshit?
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  16. Cali-02

    Cali-02 Network Newbie Member

    I like it!
  17. Cali-02

    Cali-02 Network Newbie Member

    Do you have any suggestions for a good free VPN service? Also Im a little confused on how HTTPS hides what i search/visit? And can you use a VPN with most mobile devices?
  18. Cali-02

    Cali-02 Network Newbie Member

    I like the enthusiasm....however I do require internet soooooo I think Ill have to pass on this idea.
  19. Grimson

    Grimson Networkin' Nut Member

    Then take a hammer to his big toes until he stops.
  20. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Networkin' Nut Member

    tell the guy hes a fuckin creep end of story.

    i would never do this to anyone who uses my home network, and i am disgusted in anyone who would do it to me.

    it COULD be useful for making sure ur kids arent doing bad stuff... but other then that just wierd.

    personally if someone is doing something "odd" i would not like to know.....

    why not just get your own router?
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2014
  21. JoeDirte

    JoeDirte Networkin' Nut Member

    Time for a new roommate...

    Seriously, just ask him to stop. Ask him how he'd feel if you put cameras in the bathrooms. Ask him how he'd feel if you started opening his mail. Tell him he's unnecessarily putting more load on the router making things run more slowly. Start eating his food. Punch him in the nuts.

    Really though - if your roommate doesn't respect your privacy, it's time for a new roommate.
  22. darksky

    darksky Addicted to LI Member

    Hammer to the skull while he sleeps. Problem solved.
  23. koitsu

    koitsu Network Guru Member

    On a more serious note: I side with most of the views here that advocate solving the social problem through social means and not through technology. I never advocate solving problems like this using technology, because in most cases it cannot be 100% reliably done (I say this admitting the VPN approach would work, but could possibly mean a significantly degraded Internet experience -- lots of VPN providers are in foreign countries so your packets end up having to go from your location to, say, Hong Kong, then response packets come all the way back). Social problem should be solved at the social level.

    Sit down and talk to your roommate. Say "Hey. I need to talk to you about you watching my web traffic on the router. I dunno why you use that feature, but it makes me uncomfortable that you do. You might think it's handy or cool but it does invade my privacy. I don't want to invade your privacy; I don't, for example, go through your browser cache when you're gone or asleep because I respect you and your right to privacy. Living together means we gotta compromise and work out a solution, so I'm starting that discussion by telling you how this makes me feel."

    If the person is a douchebag then they'll give you some smarmy response like "lol dude whatever it's my router and internet connection i'll do what i want". And that's true -- they have that right, but you also have the right not to have to live in that kind of environment or tolerate such things (i.e. move out). I can't imagine living with someone I don't trust, roommate or otherwise.
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2014
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  24. Connor McCaffrey

    Connor McCaffrey Networkin' Nut Member


    am i the only one that would feel like a creep saying that to someone

    like if i told someone i could see all there traffic, thats just the weirdest thing to do, even if i am gonna look at what sites there on, why would i tell them........

    if I wanted i could see what sites people r on, and i dont, but that doesnt mean if i was i would think its cool to tell them........

    unless for some reason i was bothered by the sites they were visiting and told them in order for it to stop, which is weird why someone else would care about websites another user is on, like i said if its your kids thats another thing...
  25. blackrhino

    blackrhino LI Guru Member

    Some food for thought...

    Depending on your roommate's skills, you might want to consider keeping an eye on security verification information for secure sites - like facebook for example. It's not a difficult task for your roommate to set up their own secure web server that serves you a fake copy of facebook's login page, which he can use to steal your login details. The login page would look identical to the real one, the url would be identical to the real one, and you would be none the wiser. Know how to verify that you're visiting the real thing. In Firefox for example, click the padlock next to the address bar and make sure the connection is verified by DigiCert Inc for facebook.

    Trust nobody, and know how to look after yourself.
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