Thibor 16 for the WRT54G/GS/GL

Discussion in 'HyperWRT Firmware' started by Thibor, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    This is to let you know some things about Thibor 16 for the WRT54G/GS/GL.
    I WILL be doing it, but ONLY after i have finished with the WRTSL version. This will take as long as it takes, but when i'm happy with it, i will start on G version.

    the changes for the GS, etc versions are not major and are summarized thus:
    1. DDNS fixes
    2. UPnP fixes.
    3. DNSMasq, IPTables, Busybox upgrades
    4. Possibly PoPToP, we'll have to see how the space is.

    see that's basically it, and if there is a newer codebase, i will integrate that into it too.
    Now as i've stated above, i will do it when the SL version is finished, please don't bug me about it, it just naffs me off, and reduces my inclination to do it in the first place; i don't use the G/GS/GL as a gateway since getting the SL so 15c serves my needs quite adequately.
    Remember chaps, this is only done by me, in my spare time; and like you lot; i have a full time job, house, wife, and kids to deal with too.
  2. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Heh, I just made a post in a thread that another user created summing up mostly what you just said here... I posted in it before I saw this post :p

    Regardless, I'm just letting you know that I'd be more than happy to help test the G firmware once you get started on it, and if you need testers.

  3. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

    The other night I put Thibor 15c on my WRT54GL ver. 1.1 and I am happy with it.

    When Thibor 16 comes out for the G/GS/GL then I will be happy to test it and provide feedback to you.

    I would like to thank you for producing Thibor 15.
  4. skinni

    skinni Network Guru Member

    no vpn? :(
  5. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    I guess you did not read the list

    4. Possibly PoPToP, we'll have to see how the space is.
  6. skinni

    skinni Network Guru Member

    never heard of poptop before, didnt know that this is the linux pptp server

    appreciate your efforts
  7. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    Thanks Thibor - the only 'feature' I have wanted to change was the DDNS 30 day expiry but the workaround via startup commands and cron job has been working fine.

    Please take it as a massive complement that 15c has been so stable for so long - I confidently recommend it to anyone for their first forays into using 3rd party firmware which does all those useful things Linksys left out - some no doubt deliberately to protect their sales of higher spec devices!

    In fact the high standards/stability of 15c means that 16 must not be rushed out before it is ready and tarnish the good brand name of 'Thibor' - no pressure then - take as long as you need!

    Did I see somewhere that the Lego mindstorms NXT robot is opensource? Perhaps if we all headed over to the donate button on Thibor's website we could get all of Thibor's family interested in 3rd party firmware?
  8. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    ddns has been fixed in the SL version with a configurable timeout value. this will of course be ported the the G/GS version
  9. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member


    Since I am using Thibor 15c on my WRT54GL, I went to your site and made a donation.

  10. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    why thank you very much. i'll be sure to put it to good use, which is good timing as i have a WRT350N incoming right now.
  11. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    Just going by GPL dates

    The version used by Thibor

    4.71.1 was posted 25 April 2006 for the GS at about the same time

    4.30.5 was posted 2 May 2006 for the GL

    There's just been a new one

    4.30.9 posted 18th Jan 2007 only 183MB of compressed files!

    Without asking Thibor to do this-

    can anyone else tell what has been changed in the stock firmware? Maybe just support for latest version GL's?
  12. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    have you been squatting on the gpl site or something?
  13. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    You probably do know why I have been there recently! Its my default in my FTP client which sorts latest to the top - so I can also tell you that new things just posted in WRT54GX - an old 1.00.06?

    and in a folder that I thought was no longer current

    WRT54G a version 4.21.1
  14. lollol

    lollol Network Guru Member

    WRT54GL v1-1.1 4.30.9
    - Resolves issue with L2TP connection
    - Resolves issue with Linux kernel vulnerability
    - Resolves issue with UPnP
    - Resolves issue with Access Restriction

    -> have an look to the bold text...
    - is this an issue by the WRT54GS version v4.71.1, Hyperwrt 2.1b1 + Thibor15c ?

  15. yasmine

    yasmine Network Guru Member

    Many thanks
    very good and very stable !!
  16. GuidoZ

    GuidoZ Guest

    Donation made from here as well. I use 14 at both home and office and it works flawlessly. In fact, because of the power increase options for wireless, we were able to save having to buy an additional antenna at the office for better strength. (We have just the WRT54G)

    Thanks for all you do. I'm going to upgrade to 15 tonight.

    Peace. ~G
  17. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    thanks very much. it's hugely appreciated.
  18. saison

    saison LI Guru Member

    Just want to be one of those who said that your work is great. My WRT54G v 4.0 works fine with your Thibor 15c, and I'm very happy with it.
    Wireless on/off with SES button is an very useful option for me and Web Interface is just "what is needed" (not to much, not to less)
    I will be patient and very happy when Thibor 16 will come.
    Follow your great works

    Just forgot to mention that probably VPN access (that is in the list, I have read it) will be a great addon, for my own part
  19. Talon88

    Talon88 LI Guru Member


    Hi, Will you add support for use with
    Buffalo WHR-HP-G54....??


  20. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    no. i don't have one so i can't test it.
  21. dela

    dela Guest

    hi, do you think thibor 16 will be supported for wrt350n ????
  22. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    i don't think so. thibor 17 probably will though :)
  23. jksmurf

    jksmurf Network Guru Member

    such a tease ... :tongue:
  24. kop48

    kop48 Network Guru Member

    Hey Thibor,

    Don't take this the wrong way, but what are the issues with getting Thibor 17 to work on the G/GL/GS routers? I'd like to try to get it working, but I'm unsure why it wouldn't.


  25. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Wow, there's a Thibor17 now? I haven't been following Thibor's firmware much since I switched to Tomato, but I thought he was still developing Thibor16 for use on the G/GS/GL. What's Thibor17? Is the SL firmware already 2 full releases ahead of the G firmware?
  26. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    Thibor17 RC3 is the latest. however Thibor is waiting to add a Vista fix from linksys which we have been waiting for for some time now.
  27. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

    There are no problems with it. Thibor 17 works great on my GL
  28. kop48

    kop48 Network Guru Member

    What fix is this? Does it have to do with the new TCP stack in Vista? I just found this link regarding it:
    Is this what Linksys will be patching? Also, what would be the ETA on the fix? I'm assuming that there isn't one, from the 'for some time now' part of your sentence... ;)

    What did you compile it on? I've never compiled HyperWRT myself, just OpenWRT (which had everything already setup). Looks like I might need to install Ubuntu again....

    Also,, this thread has the GPL code for the Vista fixes on the RV routers. I haven't looked at it myself, but is it possible to merge the TCP section of the code with the G/GL/GS branch, or is it coded into the driver rather than the kernel?
  29. tuntun

    tuntun Network Guru Member

    Thibor 16 for WRT54G/GS/GL

    Does this mean can we upload thibor 17 to WRT54G series v1-4?

  30. frenchy2k1

    frenchy2k1 LI Guru Member

    The fix is for samba, as the SL has a USB port to use to plug an external HDD.
    Vista does not allow easy setup of that volume...
  31. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Isn't Thibor17 ONLY for the SL? Does it work on the G/GS/GL regardless?
  32. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    Thibor17 RC3 is only for the SL it has USB support and is a much larger size (7Mb+) then the 3mb+ size for the WRT54G/GL
  33. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Then what is ka9yhd talking about? His comment was in response to a quote, so it clearly wasn't just a typo. Care to clerify, ka9yhd?
  34. tstrike2000

    tstrike2000 Network Guru Member

    I know Thibor is busy with many other things. My only request is if there ever is a Thibor 16 for the G/GS/GL router, that the QoS section go back to the format it used in Thibor 14. I know Tofu13c/Thibor14 had the stock QoS look with some additions that worked fantastic. I used Thibor 15c for quite a while and it's extremely stable. I just had a small problem in the QoS where web browsing would slow down noticably while either downloading torrents or using VoIP. In the Tofu13c/Thibor 14 and Tomato builds I've tried, the QoS seemed to work better in that regard. Web browsing didn't suffer quite as much when using Bittorrent or VoIP. If the QoS is more configurable, it seems to be more effective.
  35. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    tstrike, if you don't like the L7 filters and want it the way it used to be, just define your own app priorities, they are identical to the way it was in 14. don't use the predefined apps or games and just use your own. this way it is exactly the same as in prior versions.
  36. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

    Sorry my mistake.............

    15c on my GL
  37. tstrike2000

    tstrike2000 Network Guru Member

    In reference to the "Role" in Thibor 14, if I'm remembering right, it sounds like setting up an Application port in 15c would be like setting up the Role in 14 to client and an online game in 15c would be a Server role in 14.
  38. whatcan i use to boost signal on wrt54g v-8.
  39. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    For wrt54g -v8 the only 3rd party firmware available is dd-wrt micro, but watch their forums for a bit - support is very recent so not a mature offering!
  40. e1e0n

    e1e0n LI Guru Member

    DynDNS is not working

    Hello, I am using 15c and it worked fantastic untill month ago or so I've noticed that it stoped updating DynDNS service. I don't know why. Could you someone clarify the current status of this thing with 15c (I noticed that there will be a fix for that in next version),
  41. Angelus007

    Angelus007 LI Guru Member

    Firmware 4.30.11
    - Resolves issue with PPTP pass-through when WRT54GL v1.1 works with WRT54G v5, v6 and v8
    - Update help information
    - Daylight saving time schedule update
    - TZO protocol update
    - Resolves UPnP security issue
  42. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Firmware 4.30.11 has been out for quite some time now... I'm 110% sure Thibor knows about this already!
  43. frenchy2k1

    frenchy2k1 LI Guru Member

    The firmware Thibor was waiting for was for WRTSL54GS with a fix for samba and vista.
    This has still not happened...
  44. SilentOneNL

    SilentOneNL Guest

    Hey Thibor,

    When do you plan to support IPV6 in your releases?

    It is going to be a issue more and more. I suspect that IPV4 discontinue in the next 2 years. In the mean time IPV6 will be used much more.

    It is a good thing to prepare us for IPV6 before the world is moving to it and we are running behind the facts.

    I hope that your good efforts will continue. 15c release is working like a charm.
  45. oglsmm

    oglsmm Guest

    Support for the newish DNS O Matic by OpenDNS would be nice.

    In the mean time thanks for 15c.
  46. bagu

    bagu Network Guru Member

    Hi thibor,

    Since hyperwrt is down, i can't have new information about your firmware.
    And, because i was a moderator of hyperwrt forum, i receive many mail witch ask me some things...

    First, you say that you will release an hyperwrt 16 for wrt54g and wrt54gs when you finish hyperwrt 16 for wrtsl54gs.
    But as they can see on , there is a version 17 for wrtsl54gs...
    So can we have an idea of what work left before you can see for wrt54g and gs ?

    No hurry then neither anything like this, but just to be able to ensure there will be a new release. And to be able to calm down those who say that hyperwrt is down and deprecated by mail.

    Thanks in advance

    PS : if you don't understand something in this post, maybe it's because i'm french and i'm not as good as i want to speak english ;)
  47. ocseagleforlife#82

    ocseagleforlife#82 LI Guru Member

    does thibor increae my usb wifi range or speed
  48. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    thibor firmware is for your Wireless router, not a USB wireless device.

    The signal strength can be increased on the WRT54G series but not a USB or Wireless plugin device. speed is linked to signal strength but 54g does have a limitation no matter what the strength is.
  49. accident

    accident Guest

    some sort of traffic monitor would be wonderful to have, if it wouldnt be too much trouble to impliment.
  50. lol24h

    lol24h Network Guru Member

    @accident : RFlow would be nice :)

    @Thibor : I'm waiting impatiently for your next release. The Thibor15c powered my wrt for over 2 years, damn stable, damn useful. great work.

    [c]"Just make sure the connection between lan and wlan users will work properly. I mentioned 'bout it in recent topic. 100kB/s with perfect wireless signal is so sad. Two wireless clients reach 1MB/s or more."[/c]
    EDIT: now reaches 700kB/s, the bad cable was the reason.
  51. Zozo

    Zozo Guest

  52. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

  53. SideshowBob1969

    SideshowBob1969 Network Guru Member

    Hi Thibor,

    Wil there be a version 16 for the WRT54G/GS/GL ???
    It's a while ago now since you anounced this: (12-01-2007)

    1. DDNS fixes
    2. UPnP fixes.
    3. DNSMasq, IPTables, Busybox upgrades
    4. Possibly PoPToP, we'll have to see how the space is.

    If there is NO chance to see a versio 16 in the near future please tell us!!!
    Than we dont have to look anymore into this thread and hope there is some news.

    Thank for reply.
  54. JPNARF

    JPNARF LI Guru Member

    Hi Thibor,
    Any news ?

    Thanks for all !!
  55. bill875

    bill875 Guest

    I am really hoping there will still be a version 16, but only if there will be follow up fixes for anything new that pops up after the initial release.

    I am currently running Tomato on my WRT54G v1 and DD-WRT on my WRT150N and have been happy with that, however, for my office, I really prefer Thibor as it is simpler for other co-workers to use the interface when necessary. We only use the wireless to test VPN connectivity prior to releasing new laptops to end users and so far, 15c has worked well, however I am forced to reboot the router more than I would like :(
  56. Toink

    Toink Network Guru Member

    I have a feeling Thibor has his hands full with his profession that he's already abandoned this avocation...

    I was really looking forward to his new builds but I think it's time to move on... Too bad I really like his last version, but it obviously needs more tweaking...

    I'm now trying Tomato on my v1.1 WRT54GL
  57. Randyored

    Randyored Network Guru Member

    I was forced to move on from 15c to Tomato about 8 months ago. I was having horable times with UPnP and needing to reboot once a week. Tomato fixed all of that and has been solid.
  58. i like his software i hope he make new version
  59. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    People... I'm pretty sure Thibor has abandoned this project. Besides, I can't really think of anything he could improve upon that Tomato hasn't already covered. He probably thinks the same thing, therefore not bothering to update his firmware. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he himself has put Tomato on his WRT54G/GS/GL's :)
  60. mw1001

    mw1001 Network Guru Member

    Tomato hasn´t covered USB support, for WRTSL or any other model with an USB port. So, Tomato is not THAT great....

  61. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    True, but this thread is for discussion of the G/GS/GL... There's a seperate thread for the SL. Tomato is better than Thibor 15c for the G/GS/GL.
  62. mikele

    mikele Network Guru Member

    I have "old" Thibor 12 with my wrt54gs v2 and when I tried tomato thats was a real fiasco, wifi was unstable with hight and down and PS3 very very very slow (DMZ). Tomato look better but hyperwrt is more efficient in my opinion.

    But I think it's a serious PS3 buffering problem, there is only a poor 256MB memory inside the playstation 3 box... (grandfathers 1990's computer windows 3.1 have more ...!!!)

    Between my wirelesses laptop and my computer I upload a complete 700MB movie in 2 minutes in streaming...In fact, that's mean exactly 2600KB/s thats PS3 can NEVER handle with 256MB memory only...

    Unfortunately PS3 don't use his hard drive for buffering too... and his web browser with 2.52 PS3 firmware update freeze like an ass too.


    Sony programmers have to do with the splendid cell processor for optimizing transferts between components inside the box BEFORE to grow a gigantic firmware for nothing. Must stop red wine dudes...
  63. kaushalc

    kaushalc Guest

    where to download thibhor 15 or 16

    hi i have been searching for where to download thibhor 15 or 16 from last to days but in vain for my new wrt54gl. pl help and let me know where i can get it from.
    the site is up for sale. i am confused what the problem. pl help
  64. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

  65. morelord

    morelord Guest

    hello all

    Can anybody tell if Linksys WRT54GS v5.1 can work in Wireless repeater mode ?
    Also, where to download the compatible thibor or wrt software?

  66. ka9yhd

    ka9yhd LI Guru Member

    Sorry to inform you but the WRT54G ver. 5.1 will not work with 3rd party firmwares because they no longer use Linux and they have reduced the amount of memory in them.

    Staring with version 5.0 of the WRT54G and GS models.
  67. GhaladReam

    GhaladReam Network Guru Member

    Not true. DD-WRT micro is an option for him. It works on models with only 2MB of flash.
  68. tedy58

    tedy58 LI Guru Member

  69. pyramid

    pyramid Addicted to LI Member

    Latest HyperWRT firmware for WRT54GS

    Hello everyone,
    I am a newbie to the site. I have got a Linksys WRT54GS Ver.6 Serial#CGN91F****
    Can this unit be converted to an ethernet Bridge ??

    The reason I asked is because I installed DD-WRT on the unit, but cannot get it to
    communicate with my wireless router a Netopia model 3347-02.

    I think that I am not carrying-out all the required changes on the WRT in order for it to communicate with the router.
    Is there an instruction/guide that I can access and follow step by step to verify if all the changes have been made to the WRT54GS.??

    Would appreciate some help.
  70. grcore

    grcore Network Guru Member

    Hyperwrt does not run on the crippled GSv6 unit...
  71. rkloost

    rkloost Addicted to LI Member

    Try in the DD-WRT sub-forum on this site.
  72. Canuck21

    Canuck21 Networkin' Nut Member

    Hello everybody! I got a new WRT54G linksys router.
    Entering its config it reads "Firmware Version:v7.00.1, May. 4, 2006" Is there a way to get it work as Universal Repeater? If yes, help me please doing it.
  73. jed_99

    jed_99 LI Guru Member

  74. mstombs

    mstombs Network Guru Member

    I think you will find that version of WRT54G 7.0 (not the GS) is the oddball Atheros chipset router for which there will never be 3rd party firmware - no micro dd-wrt builds for Atheros.
  75. tuntun

    tuntun Network Guru Member

    Hi Thibor,

    Any new FW for WRT54G? I saw new FW by linksys "Firmware Version: v4.21.5 ".

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