Update on comparison between firmwares

Discussion in 'Tomato Firmware' started by liquidzyklon, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. liquidzyklon

    liquidzyklon LI Guru Member

    I am currently using DD-WRT v23 SP2 on a WRT54GL 1.1. Everything is great except a few small things: 1) web GUI is slow and does not respond if I BT, 2) no bandwidth tracking (which I will need in the coming months as my ISP is going to implement bandwidth caps).

    Tomato solves both of these problems. But I would like to know what I am losing out in terms of features as compared to DD-WRT. I have looked at this old table to give me an idea of what DD-WRT has, but not what Tomato has. For example, one thing I noticed is that I need to PPTP connection to my school so I can access my files, but I think Tomato does not support this (but can be modded to work with OpenVPN). Is this correct?

    Of course, if someone who knows a lot about Tomato and DD-WRT (the two bigger 3rd party firmwares) can update the table for the newer versions to give newbies like me a better picture. Thank you.
  2. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    exactly:) I'd love to give updates to any table but this is only as good as the hardware I have. unfortunately I am not in a position to flash my router every day a new firmware comes out and to test functionality and new features. this table is to be used only a a rough guide, and tbh users should try different firmwares themselves to see what firmware feels best for their needs, I may remove Alchemy and add Tomato soon however.
  3. Mastec

    Mastec Network Guru Member

    I used dd-wrt for 2 years and just recently switched to Tomato. I don't regret the decision. Access restrictions work, bandwidth monitor works and so on. I don't think you would be disappointed
  4. liquidzyklon

    liquidzyklon LI Guru Member

    Toxic, that sounds great. I really appreciate your effort! Like you said the table gives a general idea of what each firmware can provide so that users can narrow it down to one or two firmwares instead of flashing through them all. Hope to see Tomato in the chart soon.

    Mastec, Tomato does look amazing being able to solve the two problems that I have with DD-WRT. However, I believe Tomato does not allow VPN connections (thru PPTP and other means). I need to have PPTP connection to connect to school to access files. I know that there's the OpenVPN mod, but it seems too complicated for my simple mind.

    Since Tomato does not support PPTP connection (right?), is there a work around like port forwarding or otherwise to get it to work without OpenVPN mod?

    If not, I can wait until DD-WRT v24 Final comes out which supposedly implements bandwidth monitoring and fixes slow webGUI.
  5. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    The GUI on dd-wrt v24 RC3 (I hear RC4 is available) is still slow, as is, in my experience, the connection speeds (I can only speak for the VPN version). However, of all available firmware, dd-wrt probably provides the most features right "out of the box", and v24 does provide some bandwidth graphs.

    If you want to try different firmware, but the VPN is a problem, there are several options available, one of which is to run 'OpenVPN on Tomato' (search for that on this forum). I think you would pretty much be able to do the same thing on other firmware. You don't have to run the VPN end-point on a router though.

    You can have the VPN end-point on your PC or another PC/server somewhere on your net, you just have to allow the necessary connections/port forwards via your router. If you use Windows, it's got a PPTP client built-in (search for 'VPN' in the help). You can also run OpenVPN (Win) on it, and there are many other (mostly commercial) VPN end-point software in the market. If you have a Linux PC somewhere, well, then your possibilities are endless.
  6. srouquette

    srouquette Network Guru Member

    about that, did you increase your connections (up to 4096), it should improve how the GUI responds when you download.

    the thing I like about Tomato is you don't have to restart the router to update some information. Tomato only restarts what's mandatory.
  7. liquidzyklon

    liquidzyklon LI Guru Member

    Really?! The WebGUI for v24 is still slow, don't crush my hopes now. Also, there's not much documentation or screenshots showing how advance or powerful their bandwidth tracker is in comparison to Tomato's.

    Maybe I don't have a good understanding of VPN. I think I just need PPTP passthrough (like shown in the image below). That should allow me to make connections to my school. Or I "think" I can easily configured through port forwarding (i.e. copying the firewall rules that I have) to allow PPTP passthrough?

    Yes, the number of connections is 4096 but the webGUI still will not respond if I am BTing. Good thing is that the router doesn't reboot.

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  8. GeeTek

    GeeTek Guest

  9. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    Just to be clear: If the "passthrough" feature is all you require on the WRT, it means you are already running the VPN end-point on a machine/device behind your WRT (on your private network side). So, happy Tomatoing....
  10. liquidzyklon

    liquidzyklon LI Guru Member

    Thanks GeeTek and HennieM. I read the FAQ a few months back, just forgot what it said :tongue:

    But either way, I look forward to when Toxic will update the "Comparison between Firmwares" chart.

    I'll will start Tomato-ing, once I figured out how to reliably back up the bandwidth stats using only the router's RAM, a Windows computer (either filesharing or FTP) and scripts. I'll look over the FAQ again and I remember seeing a topic talking about backing up and restoring bandwidth stats stickied on this forum. If I run into some more problems, I'll be back.
  11. der_Kief

    der_Kief Super Moderator Staff Member Member

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