WDS Question with Thibor15c

Discussion in 'HyperWRT Firmware' started by Netzer, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. Netzer

    Netzer Network Guru Member

    Does anyone if using the WRT54G's and running Thibor15c if you can have more than on WDS connection per device?

    I can get one router to do WDS with a second router just fine but I cannot get a third to join the group. I have tried to get the third one to connect to the first that was a No Go. I then tried to get the third on to join the second one also a no go.

    It seems that once they establish one WDS connection they will not establish another. If this a limitation of the hardware? software? or am I doing something wrong?

  2. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    Never tested myself, but you should make sure you have the MAC addresses of router #2 and #3 on #1, and the MACs of #1 and #3 on #2, etc.
  3. Netzer

    Netzer Network Guru Member

    Well I was able to get this to work using three AP's by doing the following
    I looked at the release notes for Thibor15c the authentication chart showed that when using WDS and WPA if one AP is using WAP2 TKIP+AES the other has to use WPA AES so I played with the security settings a bit and set AP1 and AP2 to use WPA2 Personal TKIP+AES and got a WDS link I then tried the same with AP3 it would link and show in the device list but I could not ping it. I changed AP3 to use WPA Personal AES and it linked with AP2 after this I was able to go to a PC on the lan and ping both remote access points ap2 and ap3. So far so good I was able to freely roam the house and watch as the client went from access point to access point the only problem however is that if AP2 fails the so does AP3 since this is were WDS linked. I was trying to get both AP2 and AP3 to link with AP1 so that AP1 would be kind of central access point

    This setup is ok it's just a pain since I have to boot the router in a certain order to get them backup if one fails aka boot ap1 first then ap2 finally ap3
  4. Deranged_1

    Deranged_1 Network Guru Member

    I have gotten thibor to wds among 3 routers with no problem. I have done both easy wds where you don't have to enter the mac addresses and the regular wds in which you add the wireless mac to the list. The only time I had a problem was when the 3 routers were to close, that was when I had two routers 10ft apart then it would cause both routers next to each other to just crap out, the wireless led would just blink rapidly on both but nothing could connect. After I moved them futher apart it worked fine. I only had the distance issue when the 2 wds routers were close, if it was just 1 wds router near the main router it was no issue. But to answer your question yes it works no problem.
  5. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    Cool Deranged_1.

    Netzer, I am amazed that you got anything working with (what seems to me) mixed security settings. I would have thought that the settings on the 3 APs should be EXACTLY the same, like WPA/AES, not WPA2/something.

    Maybe if you make it so, you won't have your reboot-sequence problem?
  6. Deranged_1

    Deranged_1 Network Guru Member

    All security settings must be the same to use WDS. You can use thibor's site, www.thibor.co.uk which is a great resource on setting up WDS
  7. Netzer

    Netzer Network Guru Member

    Well I played around with the security settings a bit and got it to work
    It looks like two of my routers the Version 1 and 2 did not like the WPA2 Personal setting TKIP+AES. I set the AP's as follows

    AP1 WPA Personal TKIP
    AP2 WPA Personal TKIP
    AP3 WPA2 Personal TKIP+AES

    After I set this I was able to power on the AP's in any order and had no problem seeing them again when they came back up

    I have attached a small diagram of the layout. Please forgive my rough Visio skills

    Thanks for the help

    Attached Files:

  8. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    your AP3 setting of WPA2 Personal TKIP&AES is actually WPA/WPA2 mixed mode and explains why you think you are using different protocols. the AP3 device is automatically selecting WPA-Personal TKIP and connecting using it. using that setting is not a problem but for simplicity you ought to have the same setting on all 3(WPA-TKIP)
  9. Netzer

    Netzer Network Guru Member


    And Thanks for all the hard work on this awesome firmware
  10. cgondo

    cgondo Network Guru Member

    does WPA2 AES works for WDS?
  11. Thibor

    Thibor Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    it does for me, yes
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