Will WRV54G 'ever' support NAT-T?

Discussion in 'Cisco Small Business Routers and VPN Solutions' started by rexsolomon, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. rexsolomon

    rexsolomon LI Guru Member

    Hello Jay (a.k.a. Doc Large) et al,

    Would you know if WRV54G will ever be able to support NAT-T?
    It is clear from your video that you prefer WRV200 because of the features (i.e. NAT-T, etc,) that the WRV54G does not support.

    Thank you for your written guides and now the video.
    I hope Linksys is paying you, because frankly Linksys documentation on the WRV54G is PURE RUBBISH.

    I would not have been able to get the WRV54G to work without your insight.
    And coming from an ex-Cisco SE, that says a lot.

    The guys are still up to their usual tricks.

    However, a lot of people who bought the WRV54G got badly burned - myself included. It simply does not have the BASIC functionality that it should have out of the box.

    I liked Linksys before the acquisition. Now, lets just say that I've seen these kind of issues many times before.

  2. eric_stewart

    eric_stewart Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    Hey, Rex. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I don't see this as *ever* being resolved. Pity since, as you say, the WRV54G is a device that shows/showed immense potential. In reading between the lines of the emails that I've seen from the WRVxxx and RVxxx development team over at Linksys, I would say that their attention is 98% on making their "Business Series" boxes work.

    I cut the ties with my own WRV54G about a year ago. I'm now using a Cisco PIX 501 and an RV042 in tandem. The RV042 sits inside my PIX 501 and establishes a DMZ where my web site resides.

    Coming from a long Cisco background myself, I find this very frustrating too. I think it was a mistake to put the Cisco logo on this box.

    I might be wrong but what say you Carl, Kevin, Jay and Simon...that pretty much sums it up, right?

    Get Breezy!
  3. kspare

    kspare Computer Guy Staff Member Member

    Too a tee. I'm speaking out of my own personal speculation. But when..not if...we get the wrv200 working 100% I bet they discontinue the wrv54g. thats my prediction.
  4. DocLarge

    DocLarge Super Moderator Staff Member Member

    The WRV54G has been "pissed on" and set outside to dry, end story... It took them nearly two years to release official firmware and from what I was told directly by the main developer, the WRV54G is in a "holding pattern" for the time being. It would take a "major" reckoning of sorts to make them consider developing the WRV54G any further :(

    Damn, and I "REALLY" liked my WRV54G (I use it from time to time out of nostalgia...)

  5. kspare

    kspare Computer Guy Staff Member Member

    For the record. I'm still buying and deploying wrv54g's because of it's reliability. I have one sitting at a customer that has been running for almost 170 days without any problem. And this includes vpn, wireless and internet connectivity. All running 2.39.2. This firmware has worked very good for me!
  6. rexsolomon

    rexsolomon LI Guru Member

    Thank you for the clear-cut, unbiased reply gentlemen.

    Hello All,

    Thank you for the clear-cut, unbiased reply gentlemen.

    With regard to VPN capability per se, there seems to be unanimous agreement - the WRV54G had great potential.

    The WRV200 must be a whole lot less expensive on the OEM side. For no other reason IMHO would Linksys/Cisco kill the WRV54G prematurely.

    Again, many thanks for the in-depth troubleshooting you guys did on the WRV54G. Most importantly, you shared your discoveries unselfishly to the community. I 'doff the proverbial' to you guys.

    Best regards,

  7. Toxic

    Toxic Administrator Staff Member

    tbh i am just wondering how much effort is needed in putting GRE and NAT-T into the WRV54G. I would guess not alot since the RV series already have this. its just a pity it didn't have it.

    Though tbh i have never owned a WRV54G. I prefer the RV042 and a decent Wireless router like the WRTSL54GS with Thibor16. you just cannot beat that combination tbh.

    I will sometime this month strap the 506e infront of the RV042 for some more security. however at present i am testing the RVL200 which is really performing well so far. look out soon for my review of the RVL200 shortly!
  8. TazUk

    TazUk Network Guru Member

    I don't think the WRV54G was ever a high volume product, partly because of the high price and partly due to it being in no man's land as far as feature set is concerned. It was more powerful than the usual home gateways but lacked the feature with which to compete with higher end products.

    As Toxic has said it probably wouldn't have taken much to add NAT-T support but I think it was clear a long time ago this was never going to happen :mad:
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