Wire all house phones through wrtp54g?

Discussion in 'Other Linksys Equipment' started by Beeker, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. Beeker

    Beeker Network Guru Member

    I just bought the vonage/linksys rebate deal - wrtp54g.
    How do I make all house phones work through the router?
    Intuitively, I disconnect my landline service at the box outside the garage, then simply connect my router Phone1 port to my nearest wall jack. Seems all phones in house are probably connected serially, so all phones should access the device.

    However.... the user's manual (p10) states "IMPORTANT: Do not connect the Phone port to a telephone wall jack. Make sure you only connect a telephone or fax machine to the Phone port. Otherwise the Router or the telephone wiring in your home or office may be damaged."

    I called Linksys tech support. At first the support said plugging into the wall jack should work... but when I asked her about the warning and she looked in the manual she came back and said (in affect), "nope, damage may occur". I pressed about the "may" and what are the conditions or causes. She could not (or would not) provide the technical reasons or conditions.

    The only problem I can think of (and I'm not a phone expert)... is that if your whole house is still connected to the landline provider, then the low voltage that normally powers your normal wall phone would "clash" with the low voltage eminating from the router Phone port, and cause something to fry. Presuming the source of the voltage is the landline, by disconnecting at the garage I should be safe, correct?

    Any ideas?
  2. jagboy

    jagboy Network Guru Member

    maybe you should consult a electrian as this is the same mess i am in. but i have not gotten voip.
  3. Beeker

    Beeker Network Guru Member

    Well... I think I may have answered my question by looking at the Vonage forum... under top ten questions FAQ

    Here is the answer. Note option #4. The damage appears to be due to the PSTN voltage. I'll disconnect my PSTN and verify no voltage on the wall jack before I connect my voip router to the wall.

    Can I use multiple phones with the phone adapter?

    There are four ways to plug multiple extensions into the Vonage ATA. Please note that currently only phone port 1 is used by Vonage service. 1. You can purchase a multiple jack extension connector, and then connect it to phone port 1 of the ATA. This will allow you to have multiple phones on a single Vonage line. 2. Some of Vonage customers use cordless phone systems that come with a base unit and extra handsets. The base station of the cordless telephone plugs directly into the ATA. Multiple handsets can be placed anywhere in the house. 3. You can purchase wireless phone jacks. The base unit connects to the ATA and the wireless jacks plug into your household electrical outlets. A telephone connects to the wireless jack. Please note that only the phone attached to the base unit will display caller id information. Also, during testing in Vonage lab, we noticed sporadic dropped calls on the extension phones and an inability to talk on more than one phone at a time. 4. Some of Vonage customers have plugged the ATA directly into the existing telephone wiring in their homes. The manufacturer of the adapter does not recommend hooking anything to the adaptor other than a telephone, but you can seek advice from an electrician or someone who is familiar with internal telephone wiring on how to best connect it to your current wiring to take advantage of multiple extensions. We would advice that you precheck the wiring on the jacks to make sure you don't have live PSTN voltage on the jacks before connecting them to the ATA (this can be easily done by using a line tester such as those that are available at Radio Shack). Be advised that any damage resulting from practices contrary to manufacturers recommendations for the ATA will not be covered by warranty.
  4. ydef

    ydef Network Guru Member

    Yes, for the most part you can disregard this warning. This warning was placed in part due to some older houses wired up with awg size of 24 or larger (which in actuality means smaller wire size) ... in which case the wire size is too small for the charge. I believe the fcc currently mandates at minimum a 22 awg wire size.

    I have all the jacks in my house wired up to VOIP by disconnecting the landline service like you did and connecting the voip router to one of the jacks. Voila ... my house is wired up.

    Check you awg wire size in the box outside your garage. Perhaps the size is too small to be conducive for the charge placed by your router to carry throughout your house.

    Also, check out this link, which is a great resource for distributing VOIP throughout your home using the phone jacks already in place:

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