WRT54G v5 - Yahoo Messenger Logs me Out & In every 10 minutes.

Discussion in 'Cisco/Linksys Wireless Routers' started by petef56, Sep 19, 2006.

  1. petef56

    petef56 LI Guru Member

    I swapped out my Linksys BEFW11S4 v2.1 router and installed
    the Linksys WRT54G v5 router into my network for testing.
    This is a wired network, so we can avoid the complexities of
    wireless. This router now has the latest firmware installed,
    and I reset to factory defaults before installing to my DSL

    Anyway, a new problem showed up that is very weird.
    Every 10 minutes, my Yahoo Messenger program logs me out
    and in again. This can be real annoying to all your friends who
    have you on their IM list because every 10 minutes they get
    alerts that I went off line and then back online again.

    Everything exacly the same, I swap my BEFW11S4 v2.1 router
    back in and no problems exist with Yahoo Messenger.
    Figure that out.

    I do think it has something to do with the Yupdater.exe because
    ZoneAlarm was initially alerting that Yupdater.exe was trying to
    access the Internet. Yupdater.exe is part of Yahoo mesenger
    program that checks for updates. This computer has Yahoo
    Messenger version 7,0,2,120. My other computer on the same
    network has Messenger version 7,0,0,437 and that one stays
    connected as normal. I've tried using DHCP and Static IP
    addressing, both with the same result.
    So figure that one out.

    This is a very weird problem that only occurs
    when using the Linksys WRT54G v5 router.

    Any ideas what's happening here?

  2. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    It may have to do with which ports are open for outgoing connections and connection tracking within the router. It is known that the V5 stock firmware can be saturated by many connections.

    Two suggestions:
    1) Check the messenger site for which ports are required by what part of YM. They have a list somewhere there (which I can't find right now), and then make sure those ports are open on the router. This will hopefully prevent YM from trying many ports.

    2) Consider upgrading your YMs, and your router's firmware. The V5 is a tough one because it runs VxWorks. Check at http://www.bitsum.com/openwiking/owbase/ow.asp?WRT54G5_CFE on how to go to dd-wrt micro firmware.
  3. petef56

    petef56 LI Guru Member

    ok, thanks for the suggestions.
    I did some research and Yahoo Messenger uses port 5050 and 80,
    but just for troubleshooting, I used the port forwarding feature
    in the router to open ports 80 thru 9999. Unfortunately, the same
    problem occurs where Yahoo Messenger logs out and in again
    every 10 minutes.

    Here I'm a bit confused. I already upgraded the router's firwware to
    version 1.00.9 which is Linksys's most recent version dated 5/12/2006
    Is that what you mean by upgrading the firmware?

    PS: This is a not my router so I'd rather not mess with
    anything the manufacturer will not support.

    BTW: This is not a matter of just getting it to work for Yahoo
    Messenger. I'm trying to pinpoint what's different with the
    WRT54G v5 model that is creating the problem, since Yahoo
    works perfectly with the other router.

  4. petef56

    petef56 LI Guru Member

    Another clue on this problem:
    It has nothing to do with yupdater.exe. What is happening with
    yupdater.exe is the connection is lost first due to a problem with
    the router, then Yahoo Messenger automatically logs back in and
    that's when yupdater.exe is automatically launched. So forget,
    yupdater.exe as being part of the problem. ---pete---
  5. HennieM

    HennieM Network Guru Member

    The WRT54G/S V5 thru 7 runs the VxWorks operating system, which is proprietary. dd-wrt firmware is 3rd party firmware, based on the Linux operating system, which is open source. Linksys would not support 3rd party fimware, so that option seems a no-no for your router.

    Have you tried Linksys support?

    The V5 is different from prior versions, and from the GL, in that it has less RAM, less flash disk space, and some other very minor differences. Functionality-wise it is as capable as any other WRT router. However, the firmware makes or breaks a router. There are some problems with V5 according to http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/06/08/linksys_wrt54g_v5_really_is_a_lousy_router/
    which seem to be caused by firmware inadequacies (not necessarily bugs).
  6. petef56

    petef56 LI Guru Member

    No, I guess not becasue I thought this Forum was Linksys support.
    I'll try some support links direct off their main website. Thanks!

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